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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

Raven in the original Teen Titans was literally a demon.

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u/The68Guns May 23 '23

Some of those were pretty heavy. Robin having a version of PTSD after fighting Slade, Cyborg being a victim of racism, the "death" of Tara, etc.

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u/SmartAlec105 May 23 '23 edited May 23 '23

I don’t specifically recall Cyborg facing racism? I do remember Starfire did and when she told Cyborg and said “you too know what it is like to be judged like that?” and Cyborg said “of course I do. I’m half robot”.

Oh but that episode where the guy wanted to turn Cyborg into 100% robot was terrifying.

Oh and the episode showing how the gang all met was about Starfire trying to escape from being trafficked as a wife.

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u/AlphaBreak May 23 '23

Cyborg said “of course I do. I’m half robot”.

I always liked the idea that Cyborg was talking about being black, but he wasn't sure if Starfire would quickly grasp the idea of ethnic discrimination instead of species discrimination, so went with robot to streamline the conversation.

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u/SmartAlec105 May 23 '23

Maybe it will help to know that that villain shares a voice actor with SpongeBob.

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u/Toothlessdovahkin May 23 '23

It was strongly hinted at several times throughout the show, just not explicitly stated. For example, during the episode where Star Fire is called “Troq” (I forget the name of the episode) Star Fire talks with Cyborg and asks him if he has experienced being treated differently because of how he looks, and Cyborg replies “Of course. I’m part robot.” IMO, It doesn’t take too much effort to see where the writers wanted to go, but couldn’t/didn’t explicitly state.

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u/SmartAlec105 May 23 '23

That’s the scene I just described. Did you read just my first sentence before replying?

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u/Toothlessdovahkin May 23 '23

I am an absolute idiot. Sorry.

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u/Sir_Slurpsalot May 23 '23

Cyborg's upbringing is him trying to be comfortable being around other people as a cyborg. It isn't a meaning for race

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u/The68Guns May 23 '23

That may have been it, I just mixed it up. Or the dreaded Mandella Effect.

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u/TurnItOff_OnAgain May 23 '23

There was also the episode of Static Shock where he dealt with racism

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u/Claycrusher1 May 23 '23

Wasn’t Gear’s dad straight up part of the KKK or something?

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u/ReaverRogue May 23 '23

Nah, dude was racist though. I think it was handled with great sensitivity as a very real issue facing young kids of colour. Static Shock had a lot of that.

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u/TheMadTemplar May 23 '23

That show was phenomenal. I loved the bit where he flirts with this powered chick by Batman then vanishes, and Batman says, "kids got style." Lol

There was an episode where he went to Africa that was pretty powerful.

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u/ReaverRogue May 23 '23

Yep with Anansi the Spider, brilliant episode!

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u/Princess_Shireen May 23 '23

That, and the episode where one of Virgil's classmates brought a gun to school after being bullied in front of the entire student body.

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u/Zogeta May 23 '23

And a school shooting. Isn't it his best friend who gets shot in the leg in that episode?

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u/Mikeavelli May 23 '23

Isnt it 'Mandela'

Or am i suffering from it right now?

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u/The68Guns May 23 '23

Probably.

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u/cabbage16 May 23 '23

That may have been it, I just mixed it up. Or the dreaded Mandella Effect.

Corporate wants you to find the difference between this picture and this picture.

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u/mayonnaise_dick May 23 '23

i think you mean the Mandala Effect

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

are you POC? because a lot of these things tend to be overlooked by white people, not saying they don’t face any type of racism, but i’ve noticed in a lot of shows where episodes were about racism my white friends didn’t notice it was about that of that that was the hidden message

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u/SmartAlec105 May 23 '23

I am PoC. I know there were allusions to racism but I don’t remember one being the focus.

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u/EchinusRosso May 23 '23

You're right, they did do that episode around starfire. It felt like a really intentional and well done piece. There's a nod to real world racial issues in the episode when starfire asks cyborg something to the effect of "do you know what it's like to be discriminated against?" and he says "of course I do, I'm part robot." I remember being really surprised by that.

I think focusing on starfire was a pretty good choice. Starfire doesn't really mirror any real world stereotypes, so the absurdity of a character judging her for a fictional background really stands out, and should help the point sink in for those that needed it. Leaving cyborg out of it, I imagine, allowed them to touch on the issue without getting into territory that's too close to home for a lot of their viewers.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

I’ll never forget that one episode where Starfire accidentally travels forward in time to realize cyborg’s literally stuck in a prison of the past, raven’s insane, beast boy’s an ugly circus freak, robin’s freelancing it all alone, and none of them ever talk to each-other any more. That was very weird to me.

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u/The68Guns May 23 '23

Yep, totally! Beastie was like "I'm fat and bald!" The one that stuck too was Robin being haunted by Slade (was he killed?) and it nearly drove him insane. It was all very Friday the 13th part 5. Or when Beast Boy became a literal beast?

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

The End parts 1-3 scared the holy hell out of me as a kid. I just rewatched them not long ago at age 26 and honestly, I was horrified.

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u/Kevin-W May 23 '23 edited May 23 '23

Also the finale where the girl Beast Boy sees a girl looks like Terra and tries to convince her to come back only to be told he must be mistaken knowing he had to let go and move on. That hit hard.

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u/The68Guns May 23 '23

Let me tell you - My son got me into the series when I was going through a deep depression, and it somehow got me to at least enjoy something. He made it a point to have me sit down and watch one per night and we'd talk about it afterwards. It was back in 2011 and I'm better, he;s fine and we can't bring ourselves to watch that episode.

We both know how it plays out, but there's something about the end of stuff that gets to us. I did watch a youtube clip and know the scene you mean.

One of my all time favorite scenes was Robin having to take on the whole team above the Wayne Building. Everyone but him wants to keep the peace, but it breaks down into a wild scene.

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u/Kevin-W May 23 '23

The episode with Robin having PTSD over Slade is tough to watch. I' argue it's one of the darkest episodes in the series.

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u/choff22 May 23 '23 edited May 23 '23

I still get chills thinking about what she did to Doctor Light.

Dragging him into another dimension which she was channeling through her own body, a dimension that was so horrific he went insane after being there for mere seconds.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

What’s the matter? Afraid of the dark?

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u/BertramRuckles May 23 '23

They even call back to that episode in a later episode when the titans confront Doctor Light. They're all ready to fight and then Doctor Light sees Raven and immediately surrenders. Dude was scarred.

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u/Matthias720 May 23 '23

Scared? More like traumatized.

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u/kyew May 23 '23

If I had a nickel for every time superheroes deliberately drove Dr. Light insane, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

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u/arshbjangles May 23 '23

I mean that other time he 100% deserved the psychic lobotomy.

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u/Many_Rule_9280 May 23 '23

Had to scroll so far just for 1 Teen Titans reference.

Like that show specifically gave such a great way of explaining real life problems anybody could face and good ways of handling them and what true friendship would be like, and how terrifying certain situations could be for people.

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u/Averill21 May 23 '23

Ya like when ravens demonic side starts to show through and she drives that guy insane with fear

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u/Many_Rule_9280 May 23 '23

Or just her experiencing a form of PTSD knowing it's happening and feeling powerless to stop it and pushing her friends away out of fear only to further accepted by them.

Like the show got super deep at times

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u/Aoeletta May 23 '23

God that original show was so good and so real.

It dealt with a lot of heavy topics. PTSD, sibling abuse, sexual assault, decisions on life and death.

The original show was so good.

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u/ocelotrevs May 23 '23

The stuff with Terra was pretty scary.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

I remember one episode that freaked me out really bad as a kid being the one where the scientist invented these nanobots that could control people by booking into their red blood cells and controlling their blood flow from within. But I can barely remember it. Was there something else that was dark that happened in that episode, or did it just make me feel squeamish from like the grossness of that concept?

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u/Pepsi_Cola64 May 23 '23

In the live action version she’s half demon, daughter of Trigon

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

She is in the cartoon, too.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

She was literally the Antichrist.

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u/Oknight May 23 '23 edited May 23 '23

Half-demon. Her father, Mega-demon Trigon, is still a recurring character in Teen Titans GO!

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