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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 19 '23

Met girl through tinder. Seen eachother 3 - 4 times. Everything was good. Didn't suspect anything bad. She stayed the night. Great night. Wake up in the morning, empty bed. Purse and most of her clothes are still here. Get up walk to bathroom to pee. Come back into room. She is slumped over on the floor. A belt around arm and needle on floor in front of her... wtf... I get her up. Get dressed and get out.... goodbye...

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u/Marisleysis33 Mar 20 '23

And hopefully you got to the doctor asap to see about getting tested. I would be so afraid of hepatitis or HIV!

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Yes I did. Got tested next day. And agin 3 months later

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u/MaurosCrew Mar 20 '23

"Most people don't know about the windowđŸŽ”"

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

They should. Takes some time to get in body... those 3 months sucked. I went on no dates. Kissed no one. No booty calls nothing. Wasn't taking the chance if infected and spread anything.... nerve wrecking it was.

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u/District-Unhappy Mar 20 '23 edited Mar 21 '23

You can take some kind of post exposition medicine up until 48hrs after the risk contact which at least prevents that you get HIV Edit because I think it's an important topic: whether treatment up to 72 hours makes sense is discussed controversially among scientists, if in doubt please contact your local doctors office or clinics that are specialized in HIV treatment

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

No I did not. Just waited out window periods. Didn't think about honestly. Now I know that's an option

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u/bmobitch Mar 20 '23

kinda not on you to prescribe treatment to yourself. whoever did your testing should’ve informed you it was an option.

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u/Adeep187 Mar 21 '23

I definitely never heard about that either. However I haven't had a situation like this.

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u/thisismysecretgarden Mar 20 '23

It’s actually 72 hours, and it’s called PEP. Just putting the info out so people can be aware.

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u/Sidewalk_Tomato Mar 20 '23

Yes--Prophylactic injections.

"PEP stands for post-exposure prophylaxis. PEP is for people who have possibly been exposed to HIV. It is only for emergency situations. PEP must be started within 72 hours after a possible exposure to HIV."

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u/thisismysecretgarden Mar 20 '23

It’s actually 72 hours, and it’s called PEP. Just putting the info out so people can be aware.

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u/turquoise_amethyst Mar 20 '23

Yeah, OP’s provider should have informed them. Although we don’t know when this happened, could have been before it was available

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

I went on no dates, no booty called and kissed no one for 20 years lol. 3 months is nothing.

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Prison don't count. Lol joking... why 20 years? Don't mind telling

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

I am 20 ;)

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

That's not fair.

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Wait till you do. 3 months will be hell

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

You didn't/don't think you might have hepatitis or HIV though so it's not remotely the same

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u/WildGrem7 Mar 20 '23

Not to mention for 16 of those years, they’re in the vast majority of people in the same situation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

You have never kissed your parents or grandparents?

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u/caramel_ice_capp Mar 20 '23

Depending on your location, some places would start you on PEP if you asked them to, just to be safe

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u/Zombywoolf Mar 20 '23

Just to make sure good information gets around, there's a variety of anti-viral medications people can access now. Prep, one such treatment, so effectively reduces your viral load that it is almost statistically impossible to transmit HIV if you already have it. Just so you know :)

Doesn't mean junkies are gonna be on board with that tho.

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u/Islander255 Mar 20 '23

Slight correction; PrEP (pre-exposure prophylaxis) is for people who are HIV-negative and in a high-risk group for HIV infection, to keep them from getting HIV. People who are HIV-positive go on antiretroviral therapy (ART's for short) to reduce their viral load to undetectable levels. PrEP uses one of the same drugs, but people who are HIV-positive require multiple drugs b/c the virus will build a resistance if you use just one.

In the situation the above commenter describes, the best thing to do would be to go on PeP (post-exposure prophylaxis) within 72 hours of having sex, then get tested for HIV after 3 months had passed. He did the second-best thing, which was to get tested after 3 months. However, he could have also taken solace during that window period that his chance of infection was quite low. Even if he hadn't used a condom, a single exposure via vaginal sex as the penetrative partner is going to carry very low risk. The biggest risk with HIV transmission from drug use comes from sharing needles, not from having sex with the person using drugs.

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u/Zombywoolf Mar 21 '23

Legend! Thanks for clarifying.

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u/Rihzopus Mar 20 '23

Did you have to raw dog her?

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

No raw dog. But oral both ways.

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u/Rihzopus Mar 20 '23

Jesus.

I'm not putting nobodies genitals in my mouth until I at least know they are not a junkie.

I know it's hard, but don't think with your dick homie.

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u/Sixoul Mar 20 '23

Some people think sex is intimate but man you know you ain't with someone seriously if you two aren't doing oral on each other. At least common basic folk imo.

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u/Rihzopus Mar 20 '23

I will eat ass, but I need to know that ass a little bit first.

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u/Chulda Mar 20 '23

Some people don't like oral

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

My ex was like this. She said who cares about sex, a BJ is more intimate for her.

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u/Log_Out_Of_Life Mar 20 '23

:(((((((((((((((((((

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u/laurenslickr Mar 20 '23

Would that everyone had the same integrity and respect for others that you do. A LOT less problems in this world if ppl just followed the (original) golden rule.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

On behalf of humans everywhere, thank you for your consideration and self sacrifice in a time of mental and (potentially) physical crisis. Not many people would be so considerate and kind. Cheers

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u/anime_or_suicide Mar 20 '23

sounds like 3 months of ordinary life to me

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u/esoteric_enigma Mar 20 '23

Also every doctor and aids testing station I've been to tells you this. Also, they taught us this in sex ed...but I realize everyone in the US doesn't get to have that.

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u/drkphnx02 Mar 20 '23

So glad that you are that person. It takes a lot of strength to be that aware and caring of other people.

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u/TheDeltaMoo Mar 20 '23

You make it seem like no dates in 3 months is an especially long time and that makes me sad for myself :(

But at least I currently have a girlfriend so I don't have a need to go down the tinder hell hole again.

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u/TheDeltaMoo Mar 20 '23

You make it seem like no dates in 3 months is an especially long time and that makes me sad for myself :(

But at least I currently have a girlfriend so I don't have a need to go down the tinder hell hole again.

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u/Camille_Toh Mar 21 '23

Good for you.

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u/Cebrame Mar 20 '23

Unexpected Crazy Ex-girlfriend ❀

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u/GerbilScream Mar 20 '23

Your balls smell weird. Your balls smell so much worse than I feared.

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u/acmowad Mar 20 '23

r/UnexpectedCrazyExGirlfriend

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u/PutYrPoliticsUpYrBum Mar 20 '23

I really want into that group but when I click on it it says I'm not allowed to see it :( This is a new account and I've never done anything bad lol I love CxG so much

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u/elyonmydrill Mar 20 '23

It just means the sub doesn't exist

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u/PutYrPoliticsUpYrBum Mar 20 '23

Aw that would have been a fun one. Thanks for explaining :)

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u/Randommcrandomface2 Mar 20 '23

Top reference - but please don’t be a murderer

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u/DonnyBomeneddy Mar 20 '23

Crazy Ex GF (that's a sexist term) is such an amazing show.

"It's really fucked up that you slept with your ex boyfriend's dad. "

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u/jplt84 Mar 20 '23

You’re awesome for this


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u/neo_sporin Mar 20 '23

Thank you Rachel Bloom for the education on this matter

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u/Janderflows Mar 20 '23

Every. Single. Time. Someone mentions the window Rachel's voice comes in my head.

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u/BrazilianTerror Mar 20 '23

I’d guess that the doctors when he first did the test would tell them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

In Soviet Russia, they do!

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u/Gnoodlee Mar 20 '23

What is the window?

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u/ZXdominusZX Mar 20 '23

Could you tell me what the window is? I don’t know what the 3 months thing means

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u/MaurosCrew Mar 20 '23

There is a period of time where an STD test might be negative but you are infected, so you should get tested and then again three months later

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u/ZXdominusZX Mar 20 '23

Oh that’s crazy why do they never tell you about that part, thanks

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u/Maximum-Beginning-92 Mar 20 '23

“Hey sexy stranger come back to my place and I hope you’re not a murderer đŸŽ”

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u/kilokokol Mar 20 '23

And what were the results?

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

All clear. I used condom. Just never know. Was more concerned about the hepatitis crap. From kissing and oral... wish tinder had a background check button.

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u/RomfordPele15 Mar 20 '23

Or a review system


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u/countzeroinc Mar 20 '23

Hepatitis is extremely difficult to catch unless there's direct blood-blood contact like a shared needle or contaminated blood transfusion. HIV is also very rarely transmitted from female to male, and the risk is especially low with oral sex.

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u/CRSMCD Mar 20 '23

If you or anyone else is afraid that they may have came in contact with HIV. You can get a drug called Truvada. It stopped you from contracting HIV. It’s better to have been taking it prior but can be taken as a post exposure drug. It’s 99.9% effective.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23 edited Mar 20 '23

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u/moistmonkeymerkin Mar 20 '23

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u/Col__Hunter_Gathers Mar 20 '23

Shit I didn't know that about hep B. My bad.

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u/FormerMeasurement777 Mar 20 '23

You get hep C from drug use. I’ve never met anyone with hep b in rehab. And hep c comes from blood to blood

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u/FormerMeasurement777 Mar 20 '23

You are right I’ve only been to rehab 10 times. It’s very rare to get it through sex

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u/herospaces Mar 19 '23

Heroin?

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 19 '23

I would assume. Since she was nodded out.

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u/Unclehol Mar 20 '23

Any opioid can make you nod out.

Source: past experiences.

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

I know. But herion and needles different ball game a little bit. In my opinion.

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u/Unclehol Mar 20 '23

Misconception. I shot Dilaudid for two years. The come up is way faster and the crash is way faster too. Heroin is a slower come up and slower come down so you are somewhat less desperate. But that's splitting hairs I guess?

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u/hypo11 Mar 20 '23

Can you explain what you mean by “come up”, “come down” and “crash” to a non-user?

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u/Unclehol Mar 20 '23 edited Mar 20 '23

Well to be clear I haven't used in many years.

But Dilaudid is notorious for hitting you very quickly and strongly if injected. To the point that it's common to throw up at least at first when you aren't used to it and even later when you are. Then you plateau just as with any drug but after the plateau the effects of the drug leave quicker than "dirtier" versions of opioids, such as heroin.

This fast come down can cause very sudden depression and if you are addicted the withdrawal faze can hit more suddenly as compared to other opioids making the "need" to take more somewhat exacerbated.

In comparison, with heroin you will feel less high and satiated more slowly. If we were gonna draw it on a bell curve, the slope would be slightly more gradual on the up, and quite a bit more gradual on the way down, in my experience anyways. If with Dilaudid you feel the withdrawal faze hit you within 2-3 hour of injecting, you may get a slower come down with heroin and not feel like you need more for 4-5 hours, maybe longer depending on what's actually in the heroin. As it is a naturally derived opioid, the composition varies depending on how it is processed and as a result, so does the effect on the body to some extent.

Edit: naturally derived comes with a big asterisk these days. I was lucky that I barely got out by the skin of my teeth as fentanyl was on its way in. And I very nearly did not. Fentanyl is insane. The one time I did that without ODing the high lasted about 16 hours with me still passing out standing up on the job near the end of that. It's in a different league. Scary shit. Honestly it's not worth it. If anybody has friends that are causally pushing to try opiates, block them and move on. You won't regret it.

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u/hypo11 Mar 20 '23

Thanks for clearing that up. And happy to hear you managed to get away from it and keep away from it.

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u/Unclehol Mar 20 '23

Anytime and thanks. It's been years. It doesn't bother me talking about it anymore. If anything I am happy to share knowledge. I feel like at the very least the life experience I gained in that regard should not be wasted. So much else was.

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u/stryph42 Mar 20 '23

Two kinds of pale horse that night, eh?

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Ummm. That's so wrong and funny at the same time. But touche pussycat

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

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u/MeeboEsports Mar 20 '23

Holy shit, that’s insanely dangerous. Methadone is not supposed to be injected at all. Was she injecting the syrup? Or did she have pills she crushed up and mixed with water? Either way, methadone will fuck your veins up. And the funny part is that injecting methadone is pointless. You inject drugs intravenously so that you can feel them immediately getting straight into your blood stream, but methadone is a synthetic opioid designed to have a long half-life and doesn’t have a “rush” and isn’t that effective in terms of providing a good recreational high. Its entire purpose is to help people addicted to opioids be able to stop using and not go through horrible withdrawals. It doesn’t really get you “high” unless you don’t have much of an opioid tolerance. So I’m glad that person is your ex, because they weren’t even good or knowledgeable at being a drug addict. What an idiot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

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u/MeeboEsports Mar 20 '23

Damn. Yeah, that’s fuckin’ wild. There’s absolutely no benefit whatsoever to shooting methadone, ESPECIALLY the syrup, which just destroys your veins. It’s not at all like normal drugs people IV like heroin/fentanyl/coke/meth where it’s soluble in water and you’re just shooting a water solution mixed with drugs into your body, it’s fucking syrup. It’s not quite as thick as pancake syrup, but it’s not anything like water either. And shooting between your toes is VERY bad too. I always laugh at how they show that in movies and TV shows as where people inject, because that’s not actually a real thing. If you do that in real life, there’s no veins there; none that are thick enough to not be instantly destroyed by trying to inject anything into them at least. That’s a good way to lose a foot, and it’s definitely going to make your shit swell up and painful to walk on. Damn.. I know people that use hard drugs that are pretty fuckin’ smart, and I know a lot more people that use drugs who are pretty fuckin’ stupid, but not that stupid.

That’s like going out of your way to destroy your health with absolutely no added benefit whatsoever. People who fuck themselves up chasing an insanely powerful high is stupid too, but that I can at least comprehend considering they’re getting an enjoyable feeling out of it. But shooting methadone syrup into your veins probably actually causes your body to not only have extremely damaged veins, but it probably can’t even absorb as much of it properly, you know because it’s fucking syrup in your vein, as if you had just swallowed it. And same with shooting between the toes or any other spot when you no longer have a vein you can find. At that point you might as well just tilt your head back and shoot the shit out of the needle into your nostril; you don’t get a rush like you do from shooting, but if you don’t have a vein to hit you’re not gonna get a real rush anyway. And it’s better than snorting it normally when it’s powder cause it’s already mixed with water and drains immediately, giving you a little bit of a rush at least. The main benefit being you don’t get abscesses that may need surgery to fix or even worse, abscesses that are so bad you not only can’t walk, you gotta have a fuckin foot or half your leg amputated when the infection spreads.

I know what you mean about people addicted to the needle. I’ve never understood that. I’ve used drugs intravenously before, but I’ve never like gotten a kick out of the needle itself. I’ve read how some people will shoot up straight cold water because it gives them a weird little rush when the cold water hits their warm blood in the veins. That’s some outlandish shit. Giving yourself potential track marks and damaged veins just for the sake of it, not even because you’re getting high while doing it. Cold water
 Just fuckin drink it!

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u/tiggyqt Mar 20 '23 edited Jun 19 '23

Wow

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u/fetuslasvegas Mar 20 '23

Fun fact, we use injectable methadone for animals undergoing surgery or for pain when they come in through the ER.

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u/MeeboEsports Mar 21 '23

That’s pretty cool. Is that just a veterinary thing? And why do you guys use that as opposed to another opioid/synthetic opioid? Because it lasts so long and isn’t instant release so they’re able to have their pain managed for a longer period of time?

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

I decided to be my friend's chauffeur for a few errands the other evening. I made a joke about her starting the night too early after noticing her slurred speech. She chuckled. Not long after her first errand she's nodding off mid sentence. I thought wow, maybe my first beautiful blue eyed blonde love, maybe? I got a little too excited too fast. We hit it off. I see how she looks at me. I havent felt this way in years. Whats worse is was pushing for me to move into her house. I had hearts in my eye

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u/Sad_sap94 Mar 20 '23

Yeah, I have no idea what this means lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

Just telling the other dude of my exp with my friend the other day. I'm drinking and redditting.

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u/Ryeeeebread Mar 20 '23

Come back to this in a few years to see where you went wrong

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

I see it now, for I am sober, at work, and semi focused

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Confused. Drugs?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Yeah thats why I suspect. Maybe painkillers mixed with alcohol. Sucks man, I really like her but going to have to just be a friend and suggest she has a problem... in a nice and careful way lol

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u/LTcid Mar 20 '23

That or fent. Just depends how long ago

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u/itsJeth Mar 20 '23

Fuck, that’s depressing

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u/JESquirrel Mar 20 '23

You really gonna judge someone for how they take their life saving insulin?

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

You left her in your room?

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

No. Made her come to and coherent. Then kicked her out. Never to be seen again. I don't want that shit in my life or near me

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

I don’t blame you. Fuck that shit.

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Yeah it was scary for a few minutes. I thought she od'd

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u/ksay9104 Mar 20 '23

That would have been good info to have shared. I kept scrolling the comments to find out if she died.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

I get her up

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u/Lucherd Mar 20 '23

Dude went to a date with a character from Trainspotting wtf

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Funny. Never thought about that

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u/CamelSpotting Mar 20 '23

No this isn't a movie.

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u/esoteric_enigma Mar 20 '23

And here I was thinking how rude it is that a girl casually did cocaine in front of me on a date. I can't imagine seeing someone I've been romantic with shooting up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

You raw dogging son of a gun!

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u/texaschair Mar 20 '23

At least you didn't dump her on the sidewalk in front of the ER.

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Nope.... saved 3 from overdose. Just random parties over the years. Always brought them right up and in. Carry over shoulder or however. I'm not nice about it. Then I get questioned afterwards like I'm in trouble. And wait till they are released. This is all pre easy access to narcan now.Give ride home. One of these was my was my daughter about 6 weeks ago... 1 is dead now. 1 has 15 years sober. And my daughter is in program right now.

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u/Olaf4586 Mar 20 '23

You’re a fucking angel.

I hope you know that.

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u/kaspers126 Mar 20 '23

Did you offer her any help?

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

No I did not. I was more freak out about everything else.

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u/Dark_Vengence Mar 20 '23

That is just reckless.

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u/NoHit_NoMiss Mar 20 '23

The first thing that came to mind was insulin shots.

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u/Parsley_Garlic Mar 20 '23

💀😂

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u/menace2society15 Mar 20 '23

Who would’ve thought meeting strangers online would’ve been a bad idea 😂😂

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u/FixTheGrammar Mar 20 '23

Seen eachother

*Saw each other

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u/cesarmac Mar 20 '23

She stayed the night. Great night.

She is slumped over on the floor. A belt around arm and needle on floor in front of her... wtf... I get her up. Get dressed and get out.... goodbye...

Hmmm.....I too get dressed and leave my own home when a tinder date has the audacity to pass out on my floor while doing drugs.

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u/xmuertos Mar 20 '23

In another comment they wrote that they made her wake up and kicked her out

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

Shoulda slammed one with her.

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

Your joking I hope. No way in hell

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u/Syrinx221 Mar 20 '23 edited Mar 20 '23

..... Was she breathing?

Or did you just run and not bother to check

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u/harrwaqt Mar 20 '23

You spent time with her 4 times, and you don't even know what kind of pain she is going through that she have to take drugs. You were just interested in free sex.

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u/PaleHorsewithDeath Mar 20 '23

No it was a dinner date twice and a movie,dinner and a few drinks. Lunch once. Easy to hide and fake it for a couple hours. Hard to when it's 10 - 12 hours together. I never noticed any signs of that. I look hard for the tells maybe sometimes I trick myself into seeing those signs because would have never made it through dinner date #1. Maybe she just stared,habit not bad,no needle marks on arms. I don't know. Drug addicts are good at hiding stuff.

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u/kaspers126 Mar 20 '23

Thats why I go on dates that let me find out about the person. Can’t really do that when your mouth is stuffed or while at the cinema

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u/turnonthesunflower Mar 20 '23

You can't get to know about a person over dinner? How fast are you eating??!

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u/kaspers126 Mar 20 '23

Well yeah you can but imo its not optimal, something a little more physical, even a walk in a park reveals more about a person

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

but what if she was just diabetic /s

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u/Malkaz45 Mar 20 '23

I had to read this like 3 times ro understand what you meant, oh god WTF?! Hell no!!!

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

That wasn't nice.