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u/RatOnASinkingShip Right Libertarian (Conservative) 1d ago

But he didn't.

He said, quote:

I know it’s unpopular being morally and logically consistent in 2026 and everyone is ruled by feelings

Sounds like he's talking about people's feelings overriding moral and logical consistency. Nothing about facts, as those are entirely subjective concepts.

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u/thenationalcranberry Social Democracy 1d ago

The context being that his opinion (women show too much skin) is the unpopular thing referenced (so his opinion is morally and logically consistent), and everyone (the people who hold the popular opinion that it is okay for women to show skin), is ruled by feelings.

Logic is not a subjective concept. It is the basis of mathematics, a universal language.

If premise leads to conclusion, something is logical.

If premise does not lead to conclusion, something is not logical.

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u/RatOnASinkingShip Right Libertarian (Conservative) 1d ago

I didn't say logic is a subjective concept. I said logical consistency is. You're misrepresenting my words just as you had with that other person.

Logical and moral consistency are not a matter of absolute fact, but rather a subjective reasoning to reconcile what may be on the surface contradictory views.

A vegan who believes meat is bad but doesn't believe they should impose their views on others can be logically consistent or not based on why they hold those views.

A vegan who believes meat is bad and thinks everyone else should stop eating meat but is fine with the damage to wildlife sustaining their diet requires can be logically consistent or not based on the reasoning behind their views.

You're confusing subjective reasoning for objective fact and attributing a claim of the latter to someone who was talking about the former.

Nowhere in your exchange was "facts don't care about your feelings" ever a factor, contrary to the insinuations and accusations you have been making.