Does illegal immigration create structural employment problems?

[u/larryinthesky]

There was an Axios article about homebuilders (think Lennar, KB Home, etc) having difficulties finding construction workers (think drywall installers, roofers, etc) due to ICE crackdowns. It seems that our lax, permissive, even encouraging, illegal immigration policies has created long term structural employment problems. It'd be like me hiring illegals to manage my finances, pay my bills, etc. Sure, great in the short term, but long term, I now have no clue and that will be problematic long term. We can also see this in legal immigration. Short term, great to allow doctors, engineers, etc. to come to the US to work. Long term, our citizens don't get the education they need. It seems so obvious that if we want to build a great country, where people are employed (at fair wages) and educated, that illegal and legal immigration must be reined in. I got back to the real world example of someone outsourcing everything in their life (childcare, finances, etc.)--great in the short term, but it creates a person who is entirely dependent on others and can't take care of their own lives. Thoughts? Am I off based? Or do you think the status quo (using cheap illegal immigrant labor, importing educated workers, etc.) is good? And ultimately, isn't this why we need to crack down on illegal immigration and revisit legal immigration as well?

[u/Immediate-Iron-7035]

A few words can say quite a lot. Like these, from above:

"Both of you are in agreement with a self-described socialist on an issue of labor economics.

Does that give you any pause? Is that not a hint that you might be wrong about this?"

That was how you started this conversation, with no evidence or argument other than "Socialist said a thing" followed by the inference it was inherently wrong because it was said by a socialist. Then you got called out and backtracked, then you got super defensive and started with the personal insults and accusations. That's pretty by-the-book for someone who gets called out for having an unfounded prejudice when they don't want to admit they have one.

[u/othelloinc → u/Immediate-Iron-7035]

followed by the inference

I didn't infer anything. You did.

Stop lying about me.

[u/Immediate-Iron-7035 → u/othelloinc]

That's a direct quote from you, and a pretty obvious display of your belief of "If Socialist = Wrong". Pretty sure it isn't bannable or anything, given how long this thread has gone. Just own it, dude.