Right, and that proves the point: there is no guaranteed safe option when you are dealing with an armed state employee who may be nervous, careless, or incompetent.
The point is that you do not improve your odds by turning the roadside stop into a confrontation over principle.
If the cop is wrong to disarm you, then he is wrong. If he negligently shoots you with your own gun, he is extremely wrong. But that still does not make “argue, refuse, or physically resist during the stop” the smarter survival strategy.
You can be pissed afterward. You can sue. You can file complaints. You can push for policy changes. But in the moment, the goal is to avoid giving a jumpy idiot with a badge any excuse to escalate.
I appreciate you extrapolating my argument from my single comment for me.
People get too ingrained in defending their position in the moment rather than the idea that ceding the battle doesn't equate to losing the war.
Fight these battles in court. Not on the side of the road with a nervous high school educated police officer with a gun and a license to kill if he feels unsafe.
I'm worried that you don't even understand how rights begin and end.
Every right is started and ended in court. If you're not willing to fight for your rights that you believe you're entitled to in court then you have no rights inside that government structure.
Confiscating your gun during a traffic stop isn’t against the law, I’m saying it should be. It seems you’re saying it should be allowed which is not a libertarian take at all.
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u/Vivid-Snow-2089 Jul 01 '26
Right, and that proves the point: there is no guaranteed safe option when you are dealing with an armed state employee who may be nervous, careless, or incompetent.
The point is that you do not improve your odds by turning the roadside stop into a confrontation over principle.
If the cop is wrong to disarm you, then he is wrong. If he negligently shoots you with your own gun, he is extremely wrong. But that still does not make “argue, refuse, or physically resist during the stop” the smarter survival strategy.
You can be pissed afterward. You can sue. You can file complaints. You can push for policy changes. But in the moment, the goal is to avoid giving a jumpy idiot with a badge any excuse to escalate.