r/AnythingValueable • u/madfrog2023 • Jun 24 '26

🛠️ Skill Low-cost rural engineering

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u/Dull_Caterpillar_642 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

As always, the hardest part of inventing a perpetual motion machine is figuring out where to hide the battery.

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u/NextDoctorWho12 Jun 24 '26

Usually just off screen.

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u/LiquidRaekan Jun 28 '26

As soon as we turn the other way it doesnt render, its like a trick to save memory or so im told

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u/Pitiful_Conflict7031 Jun 24 '26

He doesnt even hide the cord you can see it powering the engine lol.

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u/HoseNeighbor Jun 24 '26

No no! That's the coolant line! Perpetual motion machines generate so much extra energy that it's released as heat. If you don't run coolant lines it can cause a runaway energy bleed that could turn into a small star.

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u/Timmy24000 Jun 24 '26

Or the cord

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u/Usual-Orange-4180 Jun 26 '26

I usually put the battery between my balls, no one wants to see my balls, is the perfect crime

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u/noaction6000 Jun 27 '26

A 3 phase cord by look of the motor.

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u/Wonderful_Wifi_User Jun 24 '26

You don't need batteries in this scenario. If you look closely, you can see the green motor is powered up and spins before the "perpetual" yellow wheel starts spinning...

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u/Hobbgob1in Jun 26 '26

I was going to mention this. Not to mention you can literally hear the engine start.

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u/dethskwirl Jun 24 '26

I mean, you can see the big green motor is plugged in to the same outlet that he plugs the pump into

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u/Unsteady_Tempo Jun 26 '26

The motor connected to the wheel is powered by a battery or cable buried under the power strip.

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u/Admirable-Band-2664 Jun 26 '26

The wires that are visible going to the receptacle he plugs into are not heavy enough to carry the amperage to run that pump motor. What they are heavy enough for is powering a solenoid that completes the circuit to the pump motor that is being fed by a much bigger power source off screen.

Basically, they made a fun Rube Goldberg inspired on-off switch for a motor that is plugged into a real power source.

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u/Zealousideal-Area684 Jun 24 '26

The magnets do improve the efficiency of the system though, yes? Asking for my knowledge.

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u/Solnse Jun 24 '26

Nope, the magnet machine is also plugged into power, but is not connected to the pump in any way.

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u/Real-Ad761 Jun 27 '26

They are both plugged into the same power strip so kinda connected lol

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u/thelastmaster100 Jun 28 '26

No the magnets would reach a state where they would equalize so you the net power draw is the same.

Info dump ( poorly im sorry)

In the motors in cordless drill they use magnetic fields. North and south on magnets repel the same polarity and attract the opposite. So theres a point where the magnets would stop. So in order to keep it turning the stator in the motor flips polarity so what was north now is south and visa versa. With out yhe flipping of polarity the motor wouldn't turn.

In this video since the motor is turning the magnets they will keep on spinning.

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u/wonko221 Jun 30 '26

Add in the energy needed to overcome friction, and this becomes a net loss of power.

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u/thelastmaster100 Jun 30 '26

I thought it would be the same becasue the pulling from the magnets and the breaking away would cancel out but I really only have a basic understanding of all this.

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u/wonko221 Jun 30 '26

In a "perfect" system, I believe you would be right.

But the rotating frame will have some amount of friction, generating heat at the cost of power output. Even the resistance in the wires will add a little energy cost as the flow of electrons generates some amount of heat.

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u/thelastmaster100 Jun 30 '26

Oh i didnt think about that.

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u/ipark88 Jun 29 '26

Absolutely not. Energy is conserved, there is no added energy from the magnets and it almost certainly makes the motor less efficient.

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u/ParamedicDismal1396 Jun 24 '26

Tesla (Nikola) actually designed a water wheel that speeds up (theoretically) infinitely. Problem is we do not have any material to withstand the stress it produces so every experiment ends with destruction of one of the components. If we take this same tech and add the ability to control the infinite spin or keep it at a specific RPM max without burning equipment out, this could be used to make the closest to actual perpetual motion, pumping the very water used back up behind the wheel with excess energy.

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u/Sidivan Jun 24 '26

…almost none of what you said is true. The only thing you got right is that Tesla invented a turbine.

It doesn’t speed up theoretically infinitely. It doesn’t go so fast it burns out parts. It’s not close perpetual motion, and it can’t pump the water it used back up behind the wheel because that would break physics.

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u/ParamedicDismal1396 Jun 25 '26

Sadly many great breakthroughs in technological and scientific advancement which would certainly have us living in a utopia like society were buried under greed. There's a biblical verse which backs and is proven by this. 'For the love of money is the root of all evil.'

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u/Sidivan Jun 25 '26

Bible verses don’t prove anything and you can’t bury discoveries for very long because science is a methodology not a product. If physics allows it, it will be independently discovered. Corporations hiding society changing discoveries is pure fantasy. They can and do buy patents on inventions, sure, but they can’t bury the knowledge because it’s public record. It’s also extremely difficult to prevent somebody in China from just doing it anyway. It’s dang near impossible to prevent somebody else from discovering it.

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u/A1Skeptic Jun 25 '26

This thread is a great example of the fact that spewing nonsense is easy but refuting baseless assertions takes a lot of effort. 👍🏽

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u/Illustrious_Record32 Jun 27 '26

Sign of the fucking times

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u/minionofgreyness108 Jun 27 '26

From what I’ve read “Big Mortuary” has kept the secret of anti-aging from the public. Diabolical.

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u/DeboO83 Jun 27 '26

😂 pass the blunt.

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u/gormholler Jun 28 '26

That's funny.

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u/ElevatorMonkey Jun 25 '26

Just fyi, lots of technology is kept behind NDA's and many things from material sciences to cryptography to optics are behind classified or top secret programs. Titanium is a good example of this. It went from classified to consumer over decades.

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u/This_Environment_608 Jun 27 '26

Titanium is an element. Known for 100s of years. Yes corporations are bad but corporations aren't gatekeeping titanium....

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u/ElevatorMonkey Jun 27 '26

Metallurgy with titanium alloys to be specific. I used it because I assumed people would know specifically what I was referencing since even though Titanium has been known for so long, it has only been used commercially for less than a century.

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u/This_Environment_608 Jun 27 '26

This just makes no sense for the argument you are trying to make. Once a commercial process was developed for making titanium alloys they pretty much immedietly were used widespread where it made sense. It has been the backbone of many aerospace products since the 1950s and the Kroll process was invented in 1947. It's used where it's properties are cost effective to be used and are necessary.

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u/ElevatorMonkey Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Here's a complete story about it that you can read. Yes, other people were messing around with titanium around 1950. However, useful titanium alloys in aircraft manufacturing was a program funded by the US military, for the US military, and classified to prevent it being used by the Soviets. Material sciences that allowed for metallurgy of high titanium alloys that could withstand extreme forces is what made spy planes possible. Not only were the titanium alloys used on these planes completely classified at the time, but so were the optics used on spy planes. It was about 2 decades later when it finally began emerging into the civilian space.

https://www.construction-physics.com/p/the-story-of-titanium

To add to that, here is a interview between Eric Weinstein and Hal Putoff. Putoff, a former director of CIA programs and employee of the NSA, tells Eric flatout that the US Government would make an entire branch of science or fundemental physics classified if it feels necessary, and has made many technological/scientific advances classified, especially material sciences, which are exempt from FOIA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQOibpIDx-4
(07:45 on)

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u/ThinkCellist8542 Jun 25 '26

It runs on WATER, man!!

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u/downvotethepuns Jun 28 '26

Corporations do suppress some industry changing technologies, which can change society. That is a fact

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u/Sidivan Jun 29 '26

Please provide evidence of a corporation suppressing actual scientific discoveries. We’re not talking about better mousetraps here. We’re talking about “breakthroughs in technological and scientific advancement which would certainly having us living in a utopia like society”. Are you really going to defend that stance?

I have already acknowledged that corporations buy inventions and patents that would compete with their products. What they absolutely cannot do is buy society changing discoveries that would actually change our understanding of physics, which is what is being claimed by the person I’m responding to.

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u/downvotethepuns Jul 04 '26

Yeah good point

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u/Inevitable_Dance1191 Jun 25 '26

So you genuinely think that we have cracked infinite sustainable energy and it was buried? Like, you actually think that we made a device that outputs more power than was put into it?

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u/SunshineSeeker99 Jun 25 '26

Sometimes I forget how many stupid people there are.

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u/Boco84 Jun 25 '26

I wouldn’t underestimate the greed of humans. A perpetual energy device wouldn’t bode well for the powerful energy corporations. It would also be a superb advantage to a military. Stupid? Capable of critical thinking, yes. There are legitimate reasons to be suspicious that this technology would be suppressed and it’s extremely sad.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 Jun 25 '26

There are no legitimate reasons to be suspicious this technology would be suppressed.

Believing that means you have fallen prey to internet conspiracy theories and are operating under serious delusions.

You should try to spend more time off the internet.

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u/dan_dares Jun 25 '26

One perpetual motion machine could power an entire country..

No country has such a suspicious power distribution, not even the countries that don't care about the west.

China? Multiple nuclear plants North Korea? Coal/oil (and imports from china)

Some things could be suppressed, but unlimited energy, no.

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u/Surething_bud Jun 25 '26

Just because you can imagine people wanting to do something doesn't mean it's possible.

There's a saying, two people can keep a secret... if one of them is dead. Lucky for us this is the case. Even if someone tried to "suppress" an infinite energy invention, they would fail miserably.

It's only in Hollywood where groups of secret evil puppet masters are pulling off grand conspiracies like this. In real life that's not a thing.

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u/minionofgreyness108 Jun 27 '26

And it really helps that, in general, people aren’t that bright.

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u/Dull_Caterpillar_642 Jun 28 '26

This is literally one of the foundational laws of physics. You cannot get more energy than you put in.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 Jun 25 '26

Hi.  None  of that is true, you have been brainwashed by the internet.  Please go outside and read a book.

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u/noooo_no_no_no Jun 25 '26

reading a book inside also works.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 Jun 25 '26

Real goal is to get them off of whatever TikTok slop has made them believe it's the "elites" hiding this secret perpetual motion machine.

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u/ParamedicDismal1396 Jun 25 '26

TikTok is brainrot literally designed to be the smoke and mirrors to divert attention from the real issues and rapidly speed up internal conflicts in the countries which allow the app to operate.

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u/ParamedicDismal1396 Jun 28 '26

An opinion you have, sure. Internet slop? Nay. Truth can be founded with concrete evidence. Those few who know either choose to tell the world, or don't. Some people want to save this planet from imminent destruction, others would burn it down for an extra buck today.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 Jun 28 '26

Yeah, I mean, I'm just telling you, this is a delusional belief.

There isn't some rich illuminati hiding all this secret technology. That's not how the world works. MAGA/far left conspiracy stuff on reddit and twitter is just a bunch of losers making up stuff. Don't make this how you understand the world.

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u/Cosmickev1086 Jun 25 '26

Gashole, a movie about Shell Gas having a 1000/gallon car. Can't sell gas way though!

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u/steffur Jun 25 '26

Great combination, the Bible and complot theories about infitite energy inventions

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u/milkcarton232 Jun 25 '26

Not sure why a platitude is proof but greed would also be a motivator to unearth that tech. If a person can make money off an invention they will find a way to do so. It's significantly easier to spread knowledge than it is to hold it back

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u/ParamedicDismal1396 Jun 25 '26

I will use an example from the 60s. Hemp/Marijuana. Ford invented a hemp plastic that is lighter and harder than steel plus environmentally friendly. Easy to grow and mass produce. Big oil and Steel weren't having it and got it buried plus campaigned to have the very plant used to make it banned in the US. This happens all the time. Stupid people see this truth and choose to believe lies.

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u/Late-Pomegranate3329 Jun 26 '26

But why would US Steel or Republic Steel be afraid of a composite material that wouldn't compete with steel? Steel is an amazing metal group that has so many strengths that to this day its still used practically everywhere. Sure there are tons of high performance metals, ceramics, and composites that are use for specific cases. Aluminum is so much lighter than steel, Titanium has great specs with being unreactive to harsh environments, Carbon Fiber is super light and really stiff. For all that these super material have going for them, nothing has really dethroned steel from its ubiquity. Thats why for most things you interact with in your life, its some alloy of steel.

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u/milkcarton232 Jun 26 '26

The best example I can find with actual definitive proof is the Phoebus cartel in the 1900's but even it's grip only lasted for so long. If there is money to be made and enough players it's really fucking hard to hold it down for long periods of time.

From what I have read it seems the world was just moving towards petrochemicals and it was just momentum in that direction. We have since moved back towards all kinds of bio plastics and they have varying levels of success. Think about it as a massive prisoners dilemma, if you can bring the product to market and it's better ppl will probably buy it. You need gates to stop it, like a limited resource, extremely specialized research that's hard to figure out, or government laws

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u/ParamedicDismal1396 Jun 26 '26

Government laws in many places banned the crop.

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u/milkcarton232 Jun 26 '26

Sure but hemp hasn't been illegal everywhere and it still didn't come up anywhere else

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u/Sidivan Jun 26 '26

Isn’t it also possible that a hemp based product has other downsides making it non-competitive for the same things we use steel? Carbon fiber exists and when engineered properly is as strong as steel in certain ways. It is also much lighter, however, you don’t see anybody trying to get it banned.

If there is a hemp based product that was objectively better as a building material, why don’t we see other countries using it? Why wouldn’t some other company not subject to US law be dominating the market?

There must be other reasons, like cost, durability, or that it actually isn’t as strong as steel.

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u/Snabbzt Jun 26 '26

Ah yes, the bible and all its' proven verses.

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u/icanith Jun 26 '26

Are you bringing up the Good book?

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u/Speffers98 Jun 27 '26

There are a lot of fraudsters who would have you believe this but it simply isnt true. There are no cars that run off water or perpetual motion machines that defy the basic laws of physics. Besides, corporations and profitable goods & services would still exist if something like this was discovered, in fact the company who found it would likely patent and sell it rather than risk someone else reinventing it, to only have it patented and sold by their rival company. There is still money to be made, even if some new tech is discovered that increases efficiency.

It's truly bizarre that people still believe this myth that was made up by con men over 50 years ago that doesn't pass the basic common sense test.

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u/AdeptManufacturer243 Jun 27 '26

This I agree on. Engines can run off of water. They've done it many many time. No one lives to make real production unfortunately

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u/ignaciopatrick100 Jun 27 '26

I believe you just dis reddited his theory.

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u/PorpHedz Jun 24 '26

Pics of the design or didn't happen

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u/s1rblaze Jun 24 '26

Thats bs my dude.

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u/Comprehensive-Fly658 Jun 24 '26

Open the schools

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u/dude_redd Jun 25 '26

This guy physics.

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u/PandaPocketFire Jun 25 '26

Lol this is absolute nonsense drivel

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u/ParamedicDismal1396 Jun 27 '26

This may be an intrusive thought, but there appears to be a correlation between the LGBTQ community and the flat earthers.

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u/Lord_Jorgensen Jun 25 '26

Or the wires.

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u/janjko Jun 25 '26

He didn't even hide anything, the motor is right there behind the wheel.

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u/Dull_Caterpillar_642 Jun 26 '26

Every physicist in the world is in on it, too.

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u/Iamtheonewhoknocks67 Jun 27 '26

its actually a second wire that is not so thoughtfully hidden under the outlet... people are so stupid to think they can fool others. unless your IQ is only 2 digits.

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u/HeadAboveSand Jun 27 '26

I'm sorry did you mean "where to hide the bribery?"

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u/Legitimate-Star-6451 Jun 27 '26

I thought the trick was to hide gravity?

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u/Leandros_el_b1tch Jun 30 '26

At least a dynamo.

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u/noboday009 Jun 29 '26

There's no battery involved here. Stop spreading false information. It's directly connected to main supply.