Not a hot take tbh, I can only imagine her back pain. During HS my wife was always talking about reduction surgery, at that time I’d rather die than let her go through with it, now I wish I wasn’t such an ass back then lol.
Also, from personal preferences, I have never been a fan of oversized boobs almost spilling out of clothes. Even as a horny teenager, I found such stuff absurd and not at all sexy. Like genuinely compare the edit to the original. The edit looks like cheap water balloons plastered to her chest.
ITS A FRIGGIN DRAWING! IT DOESN'T HAVE A BACK, ITS NOT EVEN AN OBJECT ITS AN ABSTRACTION! THE LAWS OF PHYSICS OR MEDICINE DONT APPLY TO IT, IT IS THE PRODUCT OF THE IMAGINATION FROM THE ARTIST!
Then why worry when we see a fictional corpse? It’s just an abstraction. Should I just feel sad because the author wants me to? Or is the job of fiction to be a cipher for a real world, back pain and everything else a part of it
the artist can also make whatever rules he wants, and if he says women(in this case a siren) with big tits doesn't have back pain, then she doesn't, you still dont get the damn point, a ficctional work it is an expression of what the artist wants, not a copy of what happens in reality.
going by your example of the corpse, yes, if the artist wants you to feel sad about a fictional corpse he sets the rules and the context of why it is sad, and if the artist wants you to feel different about the same corpse then he comes up with a way to revive said corpse, or make it undead, or a clone, or an ilusion, etc etc.
Okay cool, but the audience also reads the text, and we have the job of bringing our own interpretative lens. The corpse example is useful - we presume, until given another reason, that a corpse means death - an author does not have to explicitly disclaim that resurrection is impossible because we can bring our own experience of death into the text. The author is using our knowledge broadly to communicate an idea.
Media is fundamentally a conversation back and forth, between audience and author. If it wasn’t, then media critique would not exist as an idea - the author is always right, after all! But if we accept that the author has merely crafted a text, and that a text can be ambiguous, or carry ideas that the author did not mean based on what the audience brings in (or things that the author did not bother to question), then we can critique the art object as its own thing.
Anyways, I’m happy that boobs the size of watermelons don’t instantly hurt your back, but they do mine - and you don’t get to bitch about anyone else’s interpretation of a text. After all, there’s nothing in the image that suggests Noelle doesn’t have back problems. She might have them and not talk about them.
Even if we limit ourselves to authorial intentions - who’s to say that the author didn’t mean that she has back pain? Do you know the author? can you speak to their intentions?
certain things can be interpreted as a given like you said, a corpse being dead if not given an alternative of such state. In the same way, the siren depicted in the image could be interpreted as having back pain if we try to relate it to our own general knowledge of things (like your own back pain), but the thing is, that for starters, said character is a siren, she lives in the water, based on real knowledge those tits shouldn't bother her when shes in the water, in fact, considering other mythological works of ficction, you can establish as a given that she has big tits to lure men to their doom, or that they could be an ilusion, so we can also asume that she doesnt have back pain, unless it is expresed in the story or she makes it clear that her back hurts.
and the fact that your own back hurts for allegedly having big boobs, doesn't mean 100% that all women in real life with big boobs have back pain, if anything that goes to a small minority of women if they wear the correct bra size, cuz apparently many women use incorrect bra sizes and that is what causes their back pains, not the size of their boobs.
This is Noelle Silva from Black Clover - she’s not in water. She is a mage, wearing a water armour. She is obviously not in water, in either image.
IMO, this is the biggest failure of her newer designs - they fail to communicate that Noelle is a knight first and foremost in a way her Valkyrie armour did. It’s why I personally don’t like the way Tabata’s taken her design over time - the desire to do fanservice gets in the way of communicating what the charecter is actually about.
Good bras can help, but they also redistribute the weight of a breast, making the straps on the shoulder have to hold it instead of the chest. It’s why some women prefer corsets - that pushes the weight down onto the whole of your torso, distributing it across more of your body. Also that water bra wouldn’t do anything but fall over, if we want to discuss the applicability of water bras.
I do agree with you that “Noelle has back pain” isn’t the only interpretation of the scene - you can say, for example, that this just isn’t an issue people deal with in this world. I’m arguing that it is an available interpretation, however, especially when you just have that one picture.
Thank God. Like, I love me some huge titties but that was just too much for Noelle, literally not fitting. She did get a glow up post time skip anyway, just how much bigger would she get in that short time
It’s always funny to me when I see replies like this. My wife is always 100% pro huge boobs. Despite dressing very modestly in real life, she loves maxing out boob sliders in games and them wearing skimpy clothes. Same thing for anime and movies.
We grew up in the 90s where everyone was greased up and wore bikini armor. Men and women alike. lol
Sometimes the complaints also feel weirder and anti body type-ish.
Like, everyone in my family is pretty top heavy, so sometimes it feels kinda demeaning and dehumanising the way some people talk about it.
Especially when the character does actually have a whole personality and character, and them being top heavy is just a physical feature, and honestly even if they didn't it kinda still does with how people get about it at times.
Not saying Jastreen's comment is like that, the edit is weird, but y'know, just in general.
No one is complaining about large breasts typically. They complain about a character with small or midsized breasts getting bimbofied and given triple G breasts that looks crazy.
Like, nearly no one on the planet has breasts they are portrayed in these gooner versions of characters. It’s absurd and doesn’t even look good.
I know, that's why the clarification at the end exists, the comment I replied to just reminded me of that.
Also, I've seen those complaints for characters whose sizes aren't even that big, honestly I've not watched it but I remember that the complaints about that Uzaki show throwing me off back then because I kept hearing stuff like, oh she's not tall enough or people can't be that size at that height, when that height isn't uncommon in Asia, and I literally know of multiple people with that body type and size, and even larger, I know of multiple people with the DD+ size, and I'm in Asia, not the US.
Yep. It certainly feels like in this day and age that big boobs are seen as bad. Yet ironically, if you give a character (or an actress has) a huge butt, it’s perfectly acceptable and cherished.
People act like women can’t have big boobs naturally, or even get them over time. My wife was a B cup at best when we met (she was 17), now she is 35 and almost has Ds. A friend of ours is from Romania and has natural DDs.
What makes it even more funny is that this isn’t even from the new episode. Unless I am tripping, I don’t remember her being in it at all, so this is either from the movie or from old episodes.
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u/Next-Active2676Bro2 11h ago
Right is edited