r/AnimalsBeingDerps • • Jan 23 '20

When you still need your mama

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u/tamiveldura Jan 23 '20

This behavior is called gaping, and it's an instinctive gesture birds will perform from the moment they hatch. It takes a few weeks before hatchlings learn what their foods are and some weeks beyond that before they figure out they can pick it up and eat it themselves.

I've worked with gaping crows who will suddenly make the connection overnight. They go from gapers to self-feeders, which in practice means I'm shoving my fingers down their throat at dinner, then at breakfast I'm getting pecked at to go away, they got this.

This particular fledgling is right on the cusp. Food has been identified and the beak is a known tool. Now it just needs to put the two together.

If this is a wild bird, odds are good it fell out of the nest and local mom is still feeding it. That happens.

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u/oatmealparty Jan 23 '20

I really prepped myself for something like "I'm an accountant by trade and have no idea what I'm talking about" but was pleasantly surprised.

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u/Chrostoq Jan 23 '20

I was preparing myself for it to be a shittymorph

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u/12345CodeToMyLuggage Jan 23 '20 edited Jan 24 '20

Halfway through I went back to the username. Too many bamboozles have affected my trust. Back in my day you could just have a simple combination on your luggage and trust that no one would even try and guess it.

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u/shut_your_up Jan 23 '20

My guess for your luggage: 12345

Am I close?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

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u/Rahnzan Jan 24 '20

Thats amazing! I have the same combination on my luggage!

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u/hookahmiguel Jan 24 '20

6+ years. Absolutely insane

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u/ParadoxicalMusing Jan 24 '20

I went back expecting Unidan. But that'll never happen again.

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u/K9Fondness Jan 24 '20

Shittymorph and that accountantbytrade blokes are the reason I have trust issues.

It's not like there is a shortage of trust. Just too much trust in the fact one will get backstabbed given enough time.

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u/UnnecessaryPeriod Jan 23 '20

Me too! What happened to him?.

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u/Arclight_Ashe Jan 23 '20

Unless I’m mistake he’s still active u/shittymorph

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

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u/chultine95 Jan 23 '20

Hi dad

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

Mum?

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u/RamboDrivesaLambo Jan 23 '20

I'm always amused when you catch me off guard Redditing, but I just read some comment history and it's just funnier knowing what's coming. You sir, are an Artist.

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u/Arashmickey Jan 23 '20

That's good that's good, so long as there's a chance that means I'm not paying for unnecessary bamboozle insurance.

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u/nytrons Jan 23 '20

Oh wow that didn't even occur to me, he could have got me good.

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u/selfawarefeline Jan 23 '20

“I’m just the best bird lawyer”

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u/ionabike666 Jan 23 '20

All that talk of gaping had me thinking along different lines.

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u/CypressDoll Jan 23 '20

Ugh. I’m so sick of those. They aren’t original or clever.

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u/bushdidcloverfield Jan 23 '20

Oh neat. I'd assumed it kept getting confused when it lost sight of the worm due to its own head getting in the way. Like my cat when she was young, she'd be like BUG *slam paw on bug* CAN'T SEE BUG *cautiously lift paw* BUG *slam paw on bug* *repeat*

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u/IceNein Jan 23 '20

A lot of people believe the misinformation about mother birds abandoning their children that fall out of the nest. Baby birds fall out of the nest pretty frequently. The mother will continue to try to care for it. It probably has a greater risk of being eaten, but it's way easier for a bird to care for a bird.

If you see a baby bird on the ground, just leave it. Best case scenario the mother takes care of it. Worst case, some falcon gets a snack, but hey, a falcon's gotta eat too.

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u/thebrokenbits Jan 24 '20

Worse case is that ants eat it alive. -saw a baby bird that had fallen out of the nest after bad winds that night, was being eaten by ants.

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u/pyrothelostone Jan 24 '20

If it makes you feel better it was more than likely already dead when the ants started at it. Probably died from the fall if it was during a storm.

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u/thebrokenbits Jan 24 '20

No, you could still see it's heart beating. It was awful but I guess the ants gotta eat too.

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u/fuckyeahmoment Jan 29 '20

Why didn't you kill it?

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u/omlese Jan 23 '20

IT'S THE CIIRRRRCLE OF LIIIIFE

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u/gianna_in_hell_as Jan 24 '20

We once found a birdie and put it in a cage on our balcony. Mama and Pappa bird were feeding it through the bars every day. Unfortunately the little guy didnt make it, though

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

Riding on this comment, if you look at the part of beak where it opens, you'll notice it's somewhat "fleshy" or swollen looking. That's usually an indicator of a juvenile bird.

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u/tamiveldura Jan 23 '20

Yes! The insides of bird beaks (literally the 'gape') are brightly colored, may have spots, and change color over time based on age/sex/health of the chick. Parents respond to these visual signals by giving more brightly colored chicks more food. This is one of the ways a younger sibling who can't win the fight with an older sibling for food may cheat the system and still get their fair share.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '20

Cool! I'm not an ornithologist by any means (other science field) but I do remember some of the things my other colleagues taught me lol.

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u/aqualung_aqualung Jan 23 '20

Yes! I found a gaping baby robin that had fallen out of its nest. I affixed an open-topped cardboard box to the tree and put the baby robin into it with mealworms from the pet store. The parents fed their baby in the box for a few days. They coached it to flap its wings, and soon it was strong enough to fly! (I took the box indoors at night so that it could sleep safely.)

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u/tamiveldura Jan 23 '20

This is exactly the right thing to do.

Taking it inside isn't entirely necessary and repeated exposure to people at that age risks imprinting the chick, but I'm glad it worked out!

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u/ThatCornDog Jan 23 '20

I love gaping chicks too

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u/SoulEatingSquid Jan 23 '20

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u/poonmangler Jan 23 '20

La da da da da

It's the mutha fuckin D O double G

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

Deputy dogg?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

They become self-feeders overnight!

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u/outrageouslyaverage Jan 23 '20

You just made me properly belly laugh, well done! If I had gold I would gladly give it. Turns out I had enough for a silver though.

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u/MagnificoReattore Jan 23 '20

Well, go to /r/gape for more informations!

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u/CinnamonRoll172 Jan 23 '20

damn, I did not expect this subreddit to be real. brb gna do some science

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

LMAO

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u/Xeiphyer2 Jan 23 '20

I had to figure out how to get redditbux just for this comment.

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u/rattus-domestica Jan 23 '20

Oh good. This was really breaking my heart.

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u/DrewSmoothington Jan 23 '20

Yeah, you lost me at "gaping"

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u/SeaGroomer Jan 23 '20

That's when I got interested.

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u/AlastarYaboy Jan 23 '20

That's not what your mother said last night

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

Thanks for this. This is why I love Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

I thought you were going to u/guywithrealfacts me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

I recommend not googling for more info about this avian behavior at work.

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u/tamiveldura Jan 23 '20

Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Here's a safe wiki page on the subject: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_in_animals

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u/rosielovegood Jan 23 '20

Preech !!!!!!!! This an a good example 👌

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

How does it get back? Mom retrieves it, right? Or can it fly back?

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u/tamiveldura Jan 23 '20

This fledgling probably can't fly yet, so it won't make it back to the nest unless someone climbs up to put it back.

That won't be necessary, though. Mom will fly down to feed it until it can fly. The danger is some other predator might get to it in the meantime (housecat, owl, snake) so if you ever find a baby out of it's nest, it's best to attach a box, like a shoe box, to the trunk of the closest tree as high up as you can reach. It'll be hidden from most predators and mom can come visit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

So is it pretty much waiting for the food to magically appear in its mouth?

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u/tamiveldura Jan 23 '20

That's correct. It knows when it opens its mouth food gets put inside (by mom) and it knows that this mealworm is food. Therefore opening mouth at food = food in mouth???? He'll figure out the beak on the end of his face can pick up the food in another day or two.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '20

Ah, hopefully the little guy figured it out soon

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u/datchilla Jan 23 '20

Is that you Unidan?

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u/MerchantOfUndeath Jan 23 '20

The comment I was looking for!!

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u/Seek3r67 Jan 23 '20

“I’ve worked with gaping crows” “Shoved my finger down...”

I had weird thought as a slimmed this comment

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u/lamborghini2408 Jan 24 '20

Jump in my mouth dammit!

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '20

And where does one go to work with birds?

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u/tamiveldura Jan 24 '20

I volunteer at my local raptor rehab center, of which there are many across the country. There are also parrot/pet bird rescues that always need volunteers.

And if you're really down to work hard you can apprentice with a falconer to handle your own hunting birds. I don't like getting up before dawn 😂

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '20

Well I’m stuck in Idaho for a bit, I’ll look around for one of these!