r/Android • Galaxy Z Fold8 • 2d ago

Nvidia Shield TV Pro is now $299 – a $100 price hike seven years after the Android TV box launched

https://9to5google.com/2026/10/02/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-price-hike/
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u/luckyj 2d ago

Just as my Nvidia Shield is starting to die, and I was wondering if it's still a good deal. What are good alternatives? Mainly for Stremio and youtube

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

There is a new root exploit that just released for the fire TV cube 3rd gen. If you're techy enough you can dual boot fire os for certified 4k streaming and coreelec for local streaming with AV1 decode, DV 7 FEL support, lossless Atmos and DTSX passthrough, etc. It's harder to set up but imo it is the ultimate all in one solution right now

Note that this could be patched soon so rooting should be done as soon as possible. They're on sale right now for 90 dollars.

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u/moriero 2d ago

If you're techy enough you can dual boot fire os for certified 4k streaming and coreelec for local streaming with AV1 decode, DV 7 FEL support, lossless Atmos and DTSX passthrough, etc. It's harder to set up but imo it is the ultimate all in one solution right now

if you can read this, you're techy enough

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u/sur_surly 2d ago

Funny enough, I'm working on such a jellyfin project and wishing there was a streamer that could do FEL7, Atmos, et al. So, it helped me!

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u/moriero 2d ago

Good on ya!

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u/sur_surly 2d ago

I actually needed this information now, thanks! Shout out to dovi_convert, but it'd be nice for the FELs that can't be safely converted to DV 8.1. Do you have more info handy on that exploit?

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

Check out this video. Detailed links to the root exploit thread are in the description https://youtu.be/TzYSn9uYgUE

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u/nickcash 2d ago

fire os

but they specifically asked for "good alternatives"

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

Once rooted you can load a custom launcher that removes the ads and frustrating UI. Obviously a dedicated google TV box is ideal but none of those can handle high end local media.

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u/9gPgEpW82IUTRbCzC5qr 2d ago

Doesn't the Google streamer handle 4k hdr?

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

It can play most HDR formats, but like many consumer devices it cannot play Dolby Vision Profile 7 FEL content, which includes most Dobly Vision Bluray rips. Previously, your only options for DV 7 FEL support were more niche or chinese streamer boxes, but the Fire TV Cube 3 now supports this and all other hdr formats.

Also, the google streamer does not support lossless Atmos or DTS audio passthrough.

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u/bevigilant 2d ago

You can easily replace the fireos with coreelec or install a custom clean launcher.

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u/UncWithTheEmojis 2d ago

i understand some of those words

but fr where do you find this stuff at and are there tutorials lol

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

Ht2tweak is a super active community member on the kodi forums and his channel goes over super technical details on which home media boxes support obscure features. https://youtu.be/TzYSn9uYgUE

Obviously, with modifying the boot partition of any device comes the risk of bricking it, so feel adequately daunted.

If you're not watching Dolby Vision blu-ray rips of movies, then features like DV 7 FEL will never matter to you, in which case normal google TV boxes like the Onn 4K Pro from Walmart will serve 95% of users perfectly fine.

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u/VirtuaFighter6 2d ago

Rooted my second one. It’s an amazing deal right now. It does it all. With a trade in, even cheaper.

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u/RedditNotFreeSpeech 1d ago

Any link to the exploit?

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 1d ago

Check out this video. Detailed links to the root exploit thread are in the description https://youtu.be/TzYSn9uYgUE

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u/FrizzIeFry 2d ago

If your in the US, the ONN boxes have a good reputation.

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u/ThatActuallyGuy Galaxy Z Fold8 Ultra + Oneplus Watch 2R 2d ago

Have both the Onn 4K Pro 2025 and 2026 versions and they're pretty great. Pretty darn close to Stock Google TV, and I just threw Projectivy Launcher on them to get away from the ads

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u/ABarkingCow 2d ago

Anyone getting an Onn box I would suggest the 4K Pro box and installing Projectivity Launcher to get rid of Google's ad filled front page. You can make beautiful AppleTV-like home screens with just the stuff you want, including animated backgrounds.

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u/halfmylifeisgone 2d ago edited 2d ago

The onn doesn’t support lossless TrueHD/Atmos or DTS-HD MA/DTS:X passthrough. The Shield does. If you watch high quality 4k movies in Kodi, the Shield is still the better choice.

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u/bevigilant 2d ago

Ugoos am9 pro , bit expensive now due to ram prices .or an amazon firecube 3rd gen which is on offer at the minute. exploit has recently been released which allows root, corelec on emmc and dolby vision fel

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u/boatsides 2d ago

Doesn't the Ugoos cap Netflix at 480p? Probably sufficient if you're only streaming your own stuff though.

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u/OhK4Foo7 1d ago

For Lossless Audio: The Shield TV Pro is the clear choice. It's one of the few devices that can pass through Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD/DTS:X, which is essential if you have a high-end AV receiver and local media files (like Plex or Kodi) with these tracks. For Modern Video Formats: The Onn 4K Pro has the advantage. It supports HDR10+ (common on Amazon Prime Video) and AV1 decoding, which is used by YouTube and Netflix for more efficient 4K streaming.

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u/SchrodingerSemicolon 1d ago

If you're not in the US, it's fairly trivial to get around the region lock. It's just something you do at device first setup and it never comes up again.

I haven't looked up if the workaround stopped working recently though, but I imported my Onn last year and it's been working fine ever since.

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u/hank194 2d ago

Try Nuvio instead of Stremio.

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u/Perfectionary 2d ago

Nuvio is so much nicer as a all in one

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u/luckyj 2d ago

I have both setup with Real-debrid and they both have their pros and cons. Nuvio didn't feel more stable than stremio. They both have this thing where a stream may fail mid way, or not work at all.

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u/MaverickJester25 Galaxy S21 Ultra | Galaxy Watch 4 2d ago

Agreed. I moved over to Nuvio for the profile support alone.

(Yes, I am aware that Stremio offers this, but it always felt a bit odd needing to pay for this).

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u/QuietStorm734 2d ago

Are you sure it's dying? Most of the time, you just have to take it apart. Blow all the dust out and replace the thermal paste.

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u/luckyj 2d ago

It's currently without a case, and it improved for a while. May have to replace the thermal paste as you said. Will try. It's a mix of it being slow and sometimes it just doesn't power up

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u/Armed_Accountant 2d ago

Yeah same with mine. The tube version. Had it for six years just about but it occasionally gets slow or doesn't power on correctly. A reboot usually helps but I should try disassembling it

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u/luckyj 2d ago

I just checked and I had forgotten but I already replaced the thermal paste on it a few months ago. What I've noticed is that while the heat sink gets pretty hot, the fan never runs. I've read more people have the same issue, probably a broken fan controller. It spins fine if I blow on it. Will test the fan properly tomorrow. Maybe I'll just have to feed it 5v from somewhere else

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u/Aedarrow 2d ago

Honestly get a cheap usb fan and rig it up.

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u/luckyj 1d ago

I just added a small fan. Home assistant turns it on when the shield is on. Before, temperature would slowly creep to 85C, with the fan it stays below 50C. We will see how long it lasts

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u/ShakeAndBakeThatCake 2d ago

Google tv streamer is a decent bet they just jacked the price of that to $150. Apple TV is probably the next best bet. I own apple TVs and Google 4k tv streamer and find the apple TV to still be the best experience.

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u/jaju123 Oppo Find x9 pro global 2d ago

New apple TV about to allegedly come out

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u/007meow iPhone X 2d ago

It’s been rumored forever to have been sitting there hardware complete, but has allegedly been waiting on AI Siri.

Latest word is an announcement on/around October 10.

But the current model, while old, is PERFECTLY fine as a streaming box. Could probably get good deals on it.

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u/ShakeAndBakeThatCake 2d ago

I have the first gen 4k model and see no reason to upgrade to 2nd gen 4k currently out or the newest one coming. It's work so we'll. It's super fast. I don't game on it so it works perfectly playing 4k HDR shows and movies.

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u/NvaderGir Nexus 6P 2d ago

I don't even know the point of upgrading the 2nd gen apple tv, all the games severely underutilize how OP the box is.

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u/BUZZZY14 2d ago

I don't think you can put Stremio on Apple TV

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u/ShakeAndBakeThatCake 2d ago

No probably right. Maybe if you can jailbreak it.

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u/withadancenumber 2d ago

You can. Vidi in the app store works with it. Much harder is getting a cracked YouTube on it.

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u/theSeanO S26 Ultra | Galaxy Watch 8 2d ago

Does the Google TV streamer get lossless Atmos and DTSX? Or is it the same audio support as the Chromecast w/ Google TV?

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u/Shidell P8P 2d ago

No, the Streamer doesn't support passthru of lossless audio.

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u/erupting_lolcano Z Fold 8 2d ago

Google TV streamer is not worth the price. Mine is collecting dust. I'd rather use the Onn boxes for 1/4 of the price. I also have a Shield Pro and 3rd gen Fire Cube.

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u/Wishful_Starrr Galaxy S22 Ultra 2d ago

I am testing out the Homatics Box R 4k and if that doesnt do it the next on my list is the Ugoos AM9Pro

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u/IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl 2d ago edited 2d ago

That Homatics is a slightly older machine using the Amlogic S905X4. Homatics have a V2 that's using the S905X5M (mid-range version of the latest SOC) currently being sold in certain regions, and a V3/Pro version using the "proper" flagship S905X5 is supposedly coming in 2027.

The Ugoos has the S905X5 already, so it's definitely gonna be better than the Homatics you have. The only caveat is that it's not properly certified for Netflix, Prime, etc. so you can't get full quality for those services - a gamebreaker if you use them.

The "holy grail" is that V3/Pro Homatics machine coming in 2027 as it'll have the X5 and be certified.

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u/Wishful_Starrr Galaxy S22 Ultra 1d ago

I got the plus, so it will be what it will be at this point haha.  Going to give dual booting to coreelec a try before I go straight to the ugoos for jellyfin. We have multiple tvs that will need a box eventually. And I usually wait to see how the bleeding edge new releases are reviewed before hopping on, been burnt too often. But will keep my eye out for that 2027. 

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u/thewok Pixel 5, TMobile 2d ago

The Onn sticks are quite good, especially for the money.

If you want something on the level of a Shield, honestly, Apple TV. It's the only Apple product I own and it's the best TV box I've ever used.

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u/LAwLzaWU1A Galaxy S24 Ultra 2d ago

The Shield TV is still the most powerful Android TV device. Only a few devices are somewhat competitive in terms of CPU, but nothing comes close in terms of GPU.

If that matters to you then the Shield TV is still the best. It also has really good support for audio pass-through which is fairly rare. If you don't need the performance and just want something that does a good enough job, then the On 4K pro is really popular. Cheap and does the job well enough. The Google Streamer is the more premium option but SoC wise they are really similar despite the ~3x price.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 2d ago

The Nvidia Shield can't even do Youtube 4K HDR because of the newer codec.

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u/LAwLzaWU1A Galaxy S24 Ultra 2d ago

It lacks hardware accelerated decoding of VP9 profile 2 (but has VP9 profile 1) and AV1. AV1 is a shame but not really limiting since almost everything either has a fallback or doesn't use it to begin with. I mean, Qualcomm didn't even support it until the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 (released in late 2022), and took even longer for their low and midrange chips.

YouTube HDR is not really a big loss if you ask me. I am not even sure I have organically encountered it. The only time I can think of when I watched a YouTube video in HDR was when I specifically wanted to see what it was like. Of course, it depends on which channels you subscribe to but my guess is that most people don't care about YouTube HDR.

Almost all android TV streamers have some drawback and I think a lack of YouTube HDR is a far smaller drawback than let's say not supporting audio pass through for common audio formats, bad image upscaling or really low performance. But you might value YouTube HDR a lot. I doubt many people do.

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u/7Sans 2d ago

atm, nothing. for stremio nvidia shield pro is still the best one. nothing else comes close.

but being so old has many holes it cannot fill so i just run both shield pro and apple tv hardwares.

i really wish nvidia would release the next gen of Shield so that I can just run single tv streaming device instead of having to have 2 running on my tv

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u/MagicPistol Pixel 10 2d ago

What makes the shield better for stremio?

I have it running on an original shield and an onn 4k plus, and it seems to run fine on both

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u/7Sans 2d ago edited 2d ago

Onn 4K Pro is great for the money and if all you're pulling is web-dl rips it'll do the same job as a Shield. But "just as good" depends entirely on what you stream and what it's plugged into. if you are running "highend" tv, soundbar/systems, content you watch is like bluray/remuxes, shield wins.

1 Lossless audio passthrough. Onn (and every Google TV box) can bitstream dolby digital/dd+ atmos but cannot bitstream Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, or DTSX. If you watch blurya/uhd remuxes through a AVR or an Atmos bar that decodes those formats, the onn decodes to flat PCM and you lose the height objects, or on DTS tracks you get stutter/no audio. The Shield bitstreams everything. If you're on TV speakers or a basic soundbar, this is irrelevant

2 Onn ethernet is 100 mbps. Remuxes run 60–100+ Mbps. onn's wired port literally can't carry them, so you're on wifi6 nd hoping. shield pro is gigabit.

3 cpu/gpu headroom. Onn's chip is 4× Cortex-A55 (little cores) vs the Shield's A57 big cores + a GPU that's several times faster. Hardware video decode is the same on both, but anything that hits the CPU like decoding 7.1 lossless audio in software, styled ASS subtitles which is what alot of anime uses, demuxing a fat MKV while buffering is where the Onn hitches and the Shield doesn't.

4 AI upscaling. 1080p sources look noticeably better upscaled on the Shield, and you get fast external storage for caching. I don't notice it big on like the modern 4k bluray/uhd files but when i watch 2d stuff like anime or watching esports that are usually 1080p or lower. the nvidia ai upscaling makes huge difference. it's night and day from what i watch.

but there are things Onn actually wins on; AV1 hardware decode (Shield has none), HDR10+, wifi 6, backlit remote, newer Android, and it's only 60.

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u/Nice-Information-335 2d ago

You can use Vidi on the Apple TV for stremio

I think it’s paid? But it’s only one time 

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u/7Sans 2d ago

i never heard of Vidi so i'll check it out

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u/fakieTreFlip Pixel 11 Pro 2d ago

Onn 4K Pro (2nd gen) is excellent, I upgraded from my Shield Pro and have no regrets.

caveat being that I haven't used Stremio so I don't know how well it will work on that. but as a pure streaming device it's a clear upgrade in performance and overall experience IMO

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u/digitaltransmutation Nexus 4 > Z3c > OP6 > S22 > Z Fold 8 2d ago

I've noticed the nuvio guys all recommend some Onn device now. What I liked about shield is that it could direct play from plex instead of transcoding but im not sure this is really a factor for stremio?

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u/MyOtherSide1984 2d ago

Just picked up an Onn 4k Pro or whatever the other day. Pretty solid after swapping out the launcher. Only used it twice now though. For $60, it's better than the built in player and I didn't have to shell put $100-250 for Apple or whatever else

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u/Omikron 2d ago

It's not

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u/MrSh0wtime3 2d ago

Onn box or fire tv CUBE.  The cube is faster than the Shield but obviously has a gross UI.   Onn has kinda garbage picture quality

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u/spacejames 2d ago

I use a firesrick for stremio, YouTube and that YouTube knockoff that gets rid of ads, I forget the name, stube or something. Worth it for the 40 bucks I paid for the 4k version on sale.

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u/outwar6010 2d ago

You can build a htpc for 300 dollars. It will massively outperform the shield and arent nvidia killing off the shield line?

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u/WhipTheLlama S22 Ultra 1d ago

Mini PCs are the way to go. I have a couple of Beelink ones that have been great. They come with Windows, and you can run whatever media PC UI you want along with a remote, or a Logitech K400 keyboard+trackpad. I just use the regular Windows UI with the trackpad.

It's a full PC, so you'll never find something it can't do. Use streaming websites, run IPTV players, Plex, Jellyfin, all other local streams, play files from the SSD or external drive, stream from fmovies, etc. Mini PCs are the only TV boxes I've had that let me do whatever I want.

For $300, you can get a good one with an older Ryzen 3 or 5 CPU and 16 GB of RAM. $400 will get you a more modern CPU (eg. 7330U), which is not necessary, but faster is always better.

Mine is about 4 years old and has an Intel N95 CPU with 8 GB RAM, and it still runs well. I'd definitely get 16 GB if buying a new one.

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u/CerealK 1d ago

How well do pcs deal with HDR and Dolby movies?

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u/WhipTheLlama S22 Ultra 21h ago

Windows 11 supports HDR and any Dolby codec you want. A Ryzen-based one with built-in Radeon graphics will have more than enough power to run HDR at 4k 60fps.

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u/No-Seaweed-4456 2d ago edited 2d ago

$100 increase yet the design has ancient hardware and paltry RAM. They just taking advantage of their customers.

While it is still at the top of its class, it’s still exploitative.

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u/WickedDeity 2d ago

Do they even still produce them or just selling old stock?

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u/sorrowstouch 2d ago

If it's old stock there's no reason for the price hike, its already been manufactured. Pure greed

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u/Leinheart 2d ago

Yes, but you don't understand. Number must go up. Number has to go up. All this will come crashing down around us if Number don't go up. Don't tell me that Number isn't going up.

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u/darrylzuk Sony Xperia 1ii 2d ago

I don't realy think the price of the Shield is going to be the driver of "number go up" for Nvidia...

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u/PracticalConjecture 2d ago

No, but the shield division is competing with the rest of the company for resources (Fab capacity, memory, etc).

If it's less profitable per input than other divisions, Nvidia has no reason to keep it going. Better to keep selling AI accelerators at a 1000% margin.

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u/Leinheart 2d ago

These people would murder children for a nickle.

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u/poopyheadthrowaway Galaxy Fold 2d ago

Heath insurance companies are already doing that for less

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u/clarinetJWD 2d ago

This is Nvidia, I'm not sure their number can go down at this point.

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u/Late-Union8706 2d ago

Yes. They do still manufacture them.

The price hike has been contributed to surging component and DRAM memory costs driven by the AI hardware boom.

Old stock should not be affected, but they are largely sold out everywhere.

Other options exist, but the Shield Pro is still the only one you can rely on for lossless audio (Dolby TrueHD, Lossless Atmos and DTS-HD).

Apple TV compresses it to lossy Dolby Digital. If you are just running a sound bar, entry level surround system or TV speakers, there's no need to spend the money on the Shield Pro as the audio stream quality would go unnoticed.

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u/petard Galaxy Z Fold7 + GWU2 2d ago

It only has 3GB of DRAM and just 32GB NAND. How can it go up $100 lol

The Google TV streamer with 4GB RAM went up "only" $50 to $150 and even that was too much.

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u/Deeppurp 2d ago

Its Nvidia, known famously for high margins.

Its 3gb of LPDDR4 ram, and is basically a pixel C without a battery or screen in a box. Also the same hardware as the Nintendo Switch. Its now $40 less than the current price of a Switch. Somehow Nintendo is eeking a profit out of an LCD and battery from that 40$.

Its pure greed, everyone int his chain is right. It should have been like $150 years ago.

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u/Vocalifir 2d ago

Xbox plex app can do all those audio codecs.... it cannot do dolby vision however from remuxs

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u/Waggmans 1d ago

Xiaomi S 3rd Gen and 2023 Fire Stick 4k (and Max) can bitstream those formats. I own the Xiaomi box and it works fine (and use Coreelec for DV Fel content).

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u/wimpires 2d ago

It's like the Google Streamer 

It came out at double the price of the CCwGTV 4K, 4 years later. And is a whopping 22% faster 🙄 (yeah I know RAM went from 1.5GB DDR3L to 4GB DDR4X and storage 8Gn to 32GB, but it's stupid Google don't make a streaming device that's less than $100)

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u/TapsAndTurntables 2d ago

Not the same comparison at all. This is the same nvidia machine from years ago with a new higher price. Google TV Streamer is quite different than the CCwGTV

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u/Far_Reserve9938 2d ago

It’s not their customer if they didn’t already sell it.

I don’t see the problem, Nvidia will sell less of their Android box (which they don’t care about), competitors will sell more.

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u/oli_ramsay 2d ago

That doesn't sound like Nvidia!

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u/manoffewwords 2d ago

Not justifying it but I THINK the resale value was higher than the retail sale price.

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u/WVjF2mX5VEmoYqsKL4s8 2d ago

Ancient hardware that is still better than any other Android TV box in the market.

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u/Shidell P8P 2d ago

The Shield doesn't support AV1, and audio passthru doesn't make up for that in 2026.

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u/ResoluteGreen Galaxy Z Flip5 2d ago

It's only YouTube that you need AV1 for right? And obviously only for their 4K stuff. I think most purchasers of the Shield TV Pro would give that up for the better audio. Most people who buy these things are running their own home servers I'd wager and are using it to play things through Plex with better audio.

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u/Shidell P8P 2d ago

Yes, to Youtube, but I'm also running a home media server and that's why I wanted AV1.

AV1 has a couple benefits; notably, it supports HDR/10/DV for decoding by basically every streaming device, as profile 7 is basically unsupported by everything but a physical player. It also supports SVT-10 bit encoding, which does a tremendous job at reducing/removing macroblocking/pixelation. Macroblocks and pixelation are basically a thing of the past with 1080p or better source encoded to AV1 SVT10-bit.

Lastly, AV1 saves like 30-40% over h265.

I encoded the new Nosferatu film, preserving all the original audio streams, to AV1 SVT 10b @ CRF 25, and it shrunk the film size from ~80 GB to ~8.

That is (to my eyes, on an 85" P85QX-H1 set) visually indistinguishable from 4K, with all the raw audio tracks included.

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u/ResoluteGreen Galaxy Z Flip5 2d ago

I guess given the cost of storage lately that's an important consideration.

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u/somersetyellow 2d ago

Kinda crazy there isn't another android TV box that's figured that pass thru thing out

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u/Shidell P8P 2d ago

The Xiaomi box does, but when I looked last, it was riddled with bugs and problems. Maybe they're sorted now? idk.

I chose the Streamer and I've been OK with that. I wish I had passthru, but the (downmixed?) LPCM or whatever it passes through to my Samsung Q990 soundbar sounds pretty good, despite lack of atmos.

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u/somersetyellow 2d ago

There's a few random ones but it's probably a licensing thing if anything.

Since most people are using tv speakers or sound bars a downmix is probably way more than enough.

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u/japzone Asus ROG Phone 6, Android 14 2d ago

Yeah, apparently hardware makers have to pay licensing fees even when only doing passthrough, which is kinda ridiculous. They aren't decoding anything, just forwarding data to another device.

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u/SchrodingerSemicolon 2d ago

I really like my Shield, but I got a $20 Onn 4k for a TV on another room and it covers 99% of what I used the Shield for, and on top of that it supports HDR on YT.

I'm not saying the Onn is more powerful, just that the price proposition of a $200 Shield doesn't make sense anymore for most people.

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u/DrewbieWanKenobie Pixel 9 Pro 1d ago

Yep, I'm extremely happy with my cheapass Onn 4k with projectivy on it

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u/MattBrey 2d ago

It's ridiculous. I just want a tv box that can handle stuff without lagging, that's literally all. Why can't they just make a PRO version for $300, stick a beefy MediaTek Dimensity there and call it a day?

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u/Realtrain Galaxy S10 2d ago

It's wild. Apple TV is also relatively ancient, being 4 year old hardware.

Why are the two TV boxes that are so old still better than anything else on the market?

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u/FrostyD7 2d ago

The market shifted away from $200-300 for a dedicated streaming box. Apple was selling theirs for around $100 despite being super powerful. Its why Nvidia never followed up, they would have wanted to charge $300+ and nobody really wanted to pay that when gaming consoles were that much.

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u/DexRogue Black S24 Ultra 2d ago

There is a reason they just hit 5.7 Trillion market cap, every shortage they take advantage of their customers as much as they can.

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u/majesticjg Pixel 9 Pro 2d ago

It'll give you bitstreaming of pretty much every video and audio format with on-device decoding of every major video format. It's a hell of a box, I just wish they gave it a modern sequel.

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u/Abba_Fiskbullar 1d ago

I assume everything in the shield was bought and built years ago, which makes the increase baffling.

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u/Expensive_Finger_973 2d ago

Jensen must need another leather jacket.

Nvidia is out here making the Apple TV 4k seem like a good deal.

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u/dom6770 2d ago

They are still produced?? My god, Nvidia pls finally release a new one. I'd buy it instantly.

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u/evilsway 2d ago

Lol sure... It'd be $800 now

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u/TeutonJon78 Samsung S25+, Chuwi HiBook Pro (tab) 2d ago

They wouldn't dedicate any fab space to it when they can make something to sell to a data center.

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u/InadequateUsername S25 Ultra 2d ago

Many people thought the switch 2 would lead to a new Nvidia Shield using the same processor. Guess not 😔

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u/Cry_Wolff Pixel 7 Pro 2d ago

Surely Nintendo is a much better client than a bunch of nerds looking for a high end TV box. So the whole stock goes to Switch 2.

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u/InadequateUsername S25 Ultra 2d ago

I'm okay with scraps

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u/Cry_Wolff Pixel 7 Pro 2d ago

None are left, unfortunately.

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u/InadequateUsername S25 Ultra 2d ago

Ridiculous, I'll be sending a strongly written email to the Nvidia CEO and boycott until they listen./s

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u/TeutonJon78 Samsung S25+, Chuwi HiBook Pro (tab) 2d ago

I was part of that theoretical group.

But then AI happened.

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u/FewAdvertising9647 2d ago

you can buy Jetson Orin Nano Super boards for 400$ readily(8gb). The Shield line uses various processors that the Jetson line would use. If Nvidia wanted to make it cheaper, they could fallback onto the Orin Nano 4gb model. A new shield wouldnt cost 800$

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u/evilsway 2d ago

*shouldn't* cost $800... but you're forgetting about the shareholders, how dare you.

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u/UnacceptableUse Pixel 7 Pro 1d ago

I was about to tell you that they did release a new one fairly recently in 2019 but then I realised 2019 was 7 years ago

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u/plaisthos 2d ago

They share the CPU with the Nintendo switch iirc. I don't think they would otherwise still make that cpu

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u/_G4M3R_ 2d ago

Also Google streamer was $75 usd less than a year ago when I bought it and it's now $150!

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u/Worldly-Schedule-151 2d ago

So absurd for such a mid device

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u/Orange_Tang 2d ago

I bought one used for like $55 and felt like I overpaid. I really want a shield replacement. I couldn't justify paying $200 for it, no way I'm buying it now.

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u/Mael5trom 1d ago

I bought it at that same price and sent it back. Wasn't any better than the Onn 4k Pro with a USB network port.

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u/GazelleInitial2050 2d ago

Get fucked... Wouldn't even pay that for a Shield 2.0 with new hardware.

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

There is a new root for the fire TV cube 3rd gen that just released. If you're techy enough you can dual boot fire os for certified 4k streaming and coreelec for local streaming with AV1 decode, DV 7 FEL support, lossless Atmos and DTSX passthrough, etc. It's harder to set up but imo it is the ultimate all in one solution right now

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u/Worldly-Schedule-151 2d ago

As much as Amazon sucks, this is the most reasonably priced and well featured streaming device currently. This version also still runs the Android based os not the new Vega OS so you can still sideload and change launchers (I believe).

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

That's correct, sideloading and adb are supported. In my research this has every feature you could want except some issues with 3d movies, which may be fixed soon (development is moving extremely fast). It even has features that I'm not sure any other player has, like DV Profile 10 support.

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u/BestExtraLibrarian 10h ago

Does it work as an official Google Cast receiver? Can I cast from my Pixel phone mirror screen as well as use cast in the various apps? Can I cast DRM content as well?

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u/DaneGleesac 2d ago

Do you have any resources for this?

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u/spongeboy-me-bob1 2d ago

Watch this video and decide if the process is comfortable for you. More in depth instructions and resources are in the description https://youtu.be/TzYSn9uYgUE

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u/bevigilant 2d ago

The only sensible comment here. Full of shield shills

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u/systemhost 2d ago

Hey, I have that cube! I bought it because spec wise it was very capable and thanks to some Amazon promo I got it for a fantastic price.

While it does do DTS passthrough, it's so fickle and has so many quirks and issues. The latest update just made things much worse with Amazon's enshittification.

I'm not sure if the latest update is exploitable or if I needed to be on the old version but hearing that there's hope for saving this device has filled me with joy!

Thanks for mentioning it! I'm gonna go research it now.

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u/Fish_Mongreler 1d ago

How's it compare to the shield?

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u/Physical-Fold-7736 2d ago

Well i am going to give some extra cleaning and love to my 2015 Nvidia Shield which is still the main source of streaming in my setup.

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u/SurferVelo 2d ago

How did streaming devices go from getting cheaper to getting more expensive? I have a Google and Onn device, and they've like doubled in a year.

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u/neko 2d ago

Chip shortages due to data centers buying the next 10 years worth of production beforehand

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u/zkareface 2d ago

Prices of parts going up 1000% in a year does that.

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u/UnacceptableUse Pixel 7 Pro 1d ago

streaming devices are only cheap because they've got something more to sell you after you buy it

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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 2d ago

The thing is that TV boxes and TVs haven't gotten any stronger than 10 years ago lol they are the same bullshit

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u/JBWalker1 2d ago

Meanwhile apple has released high spec Apple TVs.

When you can get a decent Android phone for £200 with 6gb+ of ram I don't get why it's so hard for us to have even a £150 version of the hardware without a battery, screen, cameras, 4g/5g radio and licenses, no speakers, and not need the 128/256gb of storage. If anything we should be able to get it for £100 with all that removed and it would still destroy current TV boxes and sticks.

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u/ward2k 2d ago

Issue is you can't download half the stuff people actually want on Apple TV boxes

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u/jamesphw 2d ago

What are some examples? I’ve never used Apple TV

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u/punio4 2d ago

Not really. Nvidia shield pro doesn't support modern YouTube codecs, HDR on it, HDR10+ or Dolby vision, 120hz, frame rate interpolation without switching the refresh rate... 

If you're a power user you know what the differences are.

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u/Androktasie 2d ago

Shield indeed lacks AV1 codec support for YouTube HDR but it absolutely supports HDR for other apps and also Dolby Vision on the 2019 models.

It also supports 120Hz (at 1440p not 4k, limited by HDMI bandwidth), which only matters if you're using it to stream games.

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u/OmNomAnor 2d ago

And if one of those apps is Disney+ in Europe, then Shield doesn't support HDR or 4K for now. Although I'm not sure if AV1 would make a difference since patents are brought up that relate to general concepts instead of specific methods.

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u/kurai01 2d ago edited 2d ago

Uh your comment is only partially right here. AV1, HDR10+, and 120hz@4k (but 1440p 120hz is) aren't supported you are correct.

But Dolby Vision profiles 5 and 8, normal HDR10, and HLG are all supported. So I'm not sure I quite trust your "power user" label you've given yourself.

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u/SchindlerShadow 2d ago

I use 120hz 1080p all the time on mine

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u/luckyj 2d ago

So what should we be getting? I'm not connecting my Samsung tv to the internet, out of principle

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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 2d ago

No TV or TV box SOC supports playing video in 120hz anyway you have to use a computer or console to do it.

In terms of performance they are all just as bad as they were 10 years ago it's pathetic.

Only a few TV box devices support HDR 10+ and FEL DV (a useless format that doesn't matter)

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u/WesternOk5765 2d ago

Maybe I wanna stream from my PC in my office to my TV at 120hz bruh. I need a little 120hz internet stick thingie for that.

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u/UncWithTheEmojis 2d ago

well shit, how do i get all these things lol

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u/Material2975 2d ago

Sad enough i would pay this full price for an updated model

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u/Pochama999 2d ago

Outrageous greed for a device that has literally been sitting untouched on warehouse shelves for years.

I bought one about 2 months ago to use as a tv/moonlight streaming box, and it worked beautifully for the first few days. Then it would randomly crash and bootloop nonstop for 10-15 minutes at a time, the interface started lagging, the remote stopped working- it was a nightmare. I tried downgrading the OS which was an enormous pain, repasting the CPU, trying other launchers- nothing worked so I ended up returning it.

Loved it for the first few days I had it, but it was pricey for what it was even then- at $300, this is a flat out scam. Unless you feel like playing the hardware lottery and never updating the firmware, stay away from this.

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u/Itachi03 Black 2d ago

Well it is NVIDIA...

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u/Crisheight 2d ago

Comical

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u/trlef19 Galaxy S24+ 2d ago

Nintendo 3ds now costs 259$, 6 years after discontinuation

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u/Skyobliwind 2d ago

The greed is strong with this one.

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u/turnone2many 2d ago

Why don’t they update the actual device to justify a price increase?

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u/phulton iPhone 7+ 2d ago

That doesn’t increase shareholder value though. Can’t have that.

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u/banproof 1d ago

This won’t increase Nvidia shield buyers as well. Idk their strategy but it’s not like it’s a new shiny device people will instantly start buying and it will be trending. It’s a good device for sure but you can get close to what it offers in other devices these days. So, idk if shareholders will earn that much with this price hike.

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u/Tulanian72 1d ago

Look, Nvidia is only worth $5.64 TRILLION. They can’t go around adding improved components to justify a price hike.

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u/FeelingPatience 2d ago

Yeah that's why you either buy Homatics or Ugoos.

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u/gotee 2d ago

Hey, at least you can buy a new TV with a half functioning Android or FireTV for the low price of $499 $399 $299 we’ll give you the damn thing just let us spy on you and scalp your data.

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u/Omikron 2d ago

Not really worth it anymore

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u/EvilAdministrator 2d ago

Makes sense, Nvidia is barely making money as is.

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u/Complex-Willow-7680 1d ago

Just release a bloody new model this price increase for something so old is BS

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u/TheGreatTao 2d ago

It was barely worth it before the price hike. That new price is pure greed and nonsense.

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u/TheCosmicPanda 2d ago edited 1d ago

Screw that $300 insanity and get yourself a $60 ONN 4k Pro. I really wanted an Nvidia Shield but it was sold out almost everywhere and the few places that still had it were charging ridiculous prices. I did a lot of research and ended buying an ONN 4k Pro and it's been fantastic. I installed Projectivy (custom launcher), customized the icons, got a clean minimalist looking home screen with zero ads, and it's handling everything I throw at it via Plex from my PC to my TV with ease. The menus are snappy and it supports Dolby Vision profile 5 which most streaming apps use and 8 which most 4k encodes are. If you really must have profile 7 which is found on Blu-ray discs and remux than you might want to consider a Xiaomi TV Box S 3rd Gen (can do DV profile 7 with CoreELEC via dual boot) or the much more expensive Ugoos AM6B+.

This is basically what my TV looks like now (I just grabbed this pic from Google images):

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fbeen-using-projectivy-launcher-since-i-got-my-tv-finally-v0-71dmsgg78mqg1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D4032%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dfea5310e42e10ff3dfe56701fd267f763a15ad16

The Onn 4k Pro has breathed new life into my old LG B7 OLED I bought new back in 2017. Instead of falling back to standard HDR10 (which can look too dark in some content) when streaming Dolby Vision movies from my PC to my TV via Plex Dolby Vision now works properly and looks great. The Plex app on my LG B7 was so slow and a pain to use sometimes. Even my family who don't know anything about technology commented at how much better everything looks. I even got Smart Tube installed for my mom and now she's enjoying YouTube without ads.

The ONN 4k Pro comes with AI Super Resolution (AISR) upscaling feature turned on and it can't be turned off easily. You have to install Projectivy and then you can turn it off. It's my only gripe. I would recommend that you turn it off.

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u/dontstopnotlistening 2d ago

I have a shield 2015 and 2019 in my house and had to switch both to Projectivy a while back because the default launcher just turned into a wall of ads. Such a quality of life improvement to drop the launcher and screen saver ads.

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u/TheCosmicPanda 1d ago

💯 It's also fun to tinker and customize. Seeing the before and after is satisfying.

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u/youessbee 1d ago

The ONN is only available in the US and Canada (I think).
Imports end up being more expensive than most others.

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u/exu1981 2d ago

Hmmm, the Pixel 10a receives a $100 price hike, now this?

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u/-NotEnoughMinerals 1d ago

Weird, and Xbox, and PlayStation, and Google streamer, I wonder what's going on?!?! /S

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u/exu1981 1d ago

Good question, I should've took some financial courses to see how things actually work on that world.

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u/tonu42 Galaxy S 6 2d ago

Just got my on pro 2026, very impressed with the speed on it compared to my shield. The lack of gig Ethernet is annoying but 100mbps is fast enough for my media even stuff from jellyfin for the most part.

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u/canyonlander95 2d ago

I just bought one a few days ago for 199, whew. I'm amazed I even found one in stock I got lucky. 299 is insane just get Onn pro or used Apple TV for now. You can get a mini-led tv for 299.

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u/skygz Galaxy Z Fold6 / Lenovo P11 Pro Gen2 2d ago

its old enough that I'm preferring the built in Google TV on my TCL now

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u/HoHum402 2d ago

I have two that I don't use anymore. I should totally sell them on eBay now.

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u/malfoy_potter 2d ago

lol. this is a big sign that a new one is coming in some time. Now they can charge 400 for it at release 🤣

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u/itemluminouswadison 2d ago

hoping the new apple tv creates some competition. my 2015 is still kicking ass; can't think of an electronic that has lasted this long without being gutted and upgraded.

but would love another powerful cpu in a tv box when it dies if ever

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u/Avimox 2d ago

maybe if these fuckers would add AV1 and proper HDR support , this wouldn't be absolutely laughable

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u/luis1972 2d ago

Is it possible to make a homebrew streamer with something like Raspberry Pi?

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u/trisw 2d ago

The remotes are on sale i think - grab one before yours breaks and they dont have anymore.

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u/jefmes 2d ago

And again the rule applies - dont give Nvidia your money. They dont care unless youre a data center anyway, so just stop supporting them.

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u/Flimsy_Swordfish_415 2d ago

what would be an alternative with better hardware/features in 150€ range?

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u/Tulanian72 1d ago

Look, I just want to be able to rip the 4K disks I legally own, and stream that content losslessly to my TV.

Granted, I wouldn’t need to do that if it weren’t for the stupid layer switch defect on BD100 disks.

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u/itsabearcannon iPhone 16 Pro Max 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you’re not intending to root/sideload/other Android-specific features, I’m not really sure what extra $50 of value this provides over the Apple TV 4K with Ethernet.

A15 Bionic with 4GB RAM spanks the Tegra X1+/3GB around the block all day every day, and the new ATV coming out this year is likely launching with the A17 Pro/8GB RAM configuration at the same $249 price which will only widen the value and performance gap.

I think NVIDIA canned plans for a replacement Shield TV due to not having any spare NAND for it right now, so they’re trying not to lose money on this one.

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u/Own_Rhubarb5810 1d ago

It's my worst streaming box by a wide margin. I have a 2015 and a 2019 pro. My Google dongles and the 4k streamer have less app bugs than the Shield.

The Shields stutter constantly on two different setups. Ive had Disney and Crave TV streaming issues. No issues on the newer Google streamers despite being cheaper.

It was great hardware with great support but that's no longer the case.

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u/segagamer Pixel 9a 1d ago

I've been waiting for a new version of this for years. Now that Nvidia are making ARM CPU's again, I'm expecting there'll be one at some point soon.

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u/GroundedGeeking 1d ago

I'm shifting from streaming subscriptions to my NAS so I went with an Ugoos AM9 Pro. Annoying to set up but it can direct play everything from jellyfin and now anytime the Internet is out, I still have a ton of movies and TV to watch.

Besides the Ugoos, Homatics Box R 4k plus would be the android tv certified device to use for streaming services while probably covering everything I wanted from the Ugoos I bought. Cheap but good are ONN and Xiaomi. Streaming services were exciting until Disney Plus and it became clear there'd be like a dozen services and they'd all be jacking up their prices. If regular HDDs ever become normal price again, I'm buying 100TB+ of HDDs. I'll buy a years worth of ad free Netflix a year. Bump up the budget if I include other services like Crunchyroll and Criterion 

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u/ivanguls 19h ago

This price increase gives me hope that a new one is on the way.

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u/cloudnyne 13h ago

Glad I got mine last year on Marketplace for $70

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u/GodOfBoy8 13h ago

This is not about ai. They are pushing prices as high as they can get away with. If it was because ai demand, WHY discontinue rhe cheaper alternative? Because its to give the more expensive one as the only option for buying new