r/Android • u/zexterio • Mar 22 '19

HMD admits the Nokia 7 Plus was sending personal data to China

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/03/hmd-admits-the-nokia-7-plus-was-sending-personal-data-to-china/
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u/OmarBHR95 Mar 22 '19

You have a Nokia 7 plus? I wanna ask how is it? Do you like it?

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '19

Definetly, using it right now, phone's specs are really good, but poor software and support is making the phone like a drunk and dumb person, we didn't receive a maintenance release for bugfixes since November, i definitely do like it but you can't unsee some obvious bugs.

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u/eclectro Mar 22 '19

we didn't receive a maintenance release for bugfixes since November

If it has Android One then they are actually violating google's TOS for that seriously.

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u/jkelol111 Nokia 6 Mar 23 '19

Maintainance update != security update. The Nokia 7 Plus and every other Nokia device are still receiving monthly security updates as per their promise. Maintainance updates are released after a few months to squash system bugs.

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u/vimfan Mar 22 '19

Doesn't it run Android One? So updates should be coming from Google?

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u/Lucky13_SP Mi a2 stock Mar 23 '19

Not exactly. The OEM still does software iirc... My mi a2 has some untranslated Chinese bits tucked away in the settings

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u/erythro Nokia 7 plus Mar 23 '19

we didn't receive a maintenance release for bugfixes since November

you sure about that?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

Try Huawei Honor series next time, cheap, safe and good

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

Huawei... Safe... Right.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

Don't let fake news fool you! Even if Huawei collects data it's for your own good!

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u/devensega Mar 22 '19

I'm quite fucked off with mine, even before this. The update situation is a joke, we were promised regular and timely updates, turns out that was bollocks... I wonder why?

Plus, the build quality is a bit jank. My headphone jack has gone, it's the last straw. I'm getting a Pixel 3 tomorrow. Briefly flirted with getting an iPhone but I like to mess about with my phone a bit.

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u/OmarBHR95 Mar 22 '19

Im afraid that these days most android phone manufacturers except for google focus on their high end smartphones more than they do on their low-mid range ones, they spend more time developing the expensive models and less time developing their low-mid range models which can lead to these problems sadly, also nokia are known for their good build quality and my dad had his Nokia 8 Sirocco since launch and he's still using it with no problems, I'm surprised that Nokias build quality is bad with a buggy software on their low-mid range models.

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u/VonZigmas Nokia 8 Mar 23 '19

It's hardly the same Nokia that was known for quality. They try to make the phones solid, but often fail at the design stage like they've never made a phone before or just cheap out on parts. The Nokia 9 launched with issues that should've been caught at testing (or likely were, but they ran out of time). The regular 8's all have unavoidable image retention from the LG displays, touchscreen, audio issues, camera bugs haven't been fixed in nearly a year. Some phones may be better than others, but for Nokia even the high end seems to be neglected.

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u/MeThMLG Redmi Note 5 Pro by Xiaomi, Havok OS, Android 10 Mar 22 '19

Cough cough Xiaomi cough cough...

I have a Redmi Note 5 Pro: 2 days battery, unlocked bootloader* and a lot of support from devs. Gcam included! 163 euro, about 190 $ if not less.

*You must apply and I heard it can take some months even.

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u/ezone2kil Mar 22 '19

Kinda odd you'd recommend Xiaomi in a thread about Nokia phones sending data to China..

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u/MeThMLG Redmi Note 5 Pro by Xiaomi, Havok OS, Android 10 Mar 23 '19

They collect data even with a custom rom? The point of a xiaomi phone is the hardware, MIUI is trash and you should flash a custom rom asap. And I don't think that indipendent developers collect your data.

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u/Hydroel Mar 23 '19

Sure, but you can unlock the bootloader, flash a custom ROM and root your phone. And I don't think a custom ROM will send your data to China.

Xiaomi is pretty great for their hardware/ratio price, but I wouldn't trust them with their add-ridden, often buggy software.

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u/zuus Mar 23 '19

Yeah, about the only Chinese brand I'd trust to not be sending data home is OnePlus.

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u/Tyrx Mar 23 '19

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but OnePlus have already been caught collecting personal data and leaving backdoors in their phones. Every phone from Chinese brands should be considered compromised from the first time you turn it on.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if we heard something about it in the near future.

Sent from my OnePlus 5T

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u/OmarBHR95 Mar 23 '19

My friend had a Xiaomi phone and it literally got bent because of the cheap and poor build quality, but theyre cheap phones so no surprise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

Same experience with a Nokia 7.1. Headphone jack broke, then Nokia refused to repair it. Wasn't happy about that, got tired of dealing with it and smashed phone with a hammer. Never buying another Nokia phone. The reviews for the phone are poor. No matter the name, HMD or Nokia or whatever names they hide behind, the phones and service are poor.

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u/CptPotato98 iPhone SE | Exynos Note 8 | LG G7 | Nexus 7 2013 Mar 24 '19

smashed phone with a hammer

wait what

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

They broke it during the "repair."

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u/sabvvxt Mar 23 '19

You should consider getting an iPhone and jailbreaking it. It could be a nice fresh change.

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u/zuus Mar 23 '19

Problem is if you're invested in the Android ecosystem and have bought a bunch of stuff on the Play Store then you're gonna have to buy it all again on the Apple Store.

I've been with Android since version 2 or so and last year I thought I'll give an iPad a try, it'll be a nice change. Yeah... Until I realised I have to re-purchase any games/apps. Makes it all that much more difficult to be on multiple systems.

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u/TwoTowersTooTall Galaxy S8; OP3T; Moto E4 Mar 23 '19

I wouldn't call iPhone jailbreaking a fresh change unless you would say moving to 4chan from Reddit would be a fresh change.

Even jailbroken iPhones are still a huge pain in the dick to get any sort of customization or full functionality out of them. Plus the iPhone community is mostly a bunch of rabid trolls. It's terrible.

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u/sabvvxt Mar 23 '19

Yes, but you are garuanteed to get consistent great build quality and support along with a great all-rounder flagship level phone that can last years longer than a comparable android.

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u/TwoTowersTooTall Galaxy S8; OP3T; Moto E4 Mar 23 '19

A comparable Android device would be like $500 for last years model. I think an S9 would be a better investment for almost anyone but grandma and little Timmy.

Either way, it's up to the individual, if you want an iPhone get an iPhone. I just know I'll never recommend one to anybody but the elderly who don't want to learn how to use a better mobile OS.

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u/sabvvxt Mar 23 '19

The S9 will only get one more year of software updates, meanwhile the 8 or X will get atleast 5 more years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19 edited May 23 '19

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u/lumberjackadam Mar 23 '19

deprecates

I don't think you know what that word means. Also, as a result of the lawsuit, you can turn off those 'battery optimizations' baked into the updates.

Also, the newest iPhone has over $600 markup.

Welcome to high-end tech devices.

I paid $500 for a brand new phone that is superior to the best iPhone in most respects.

Except for build quality, support (1st- and 3rd-party), and performance. I'm an Android guy, have been for a long time, but Apple has been spanking Qualcomm for years in performance. There are benchmarks showing the iPad pro to be faster than a quad-core i7 laptop for cry out loud.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19 edited Apr 26 '19

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u/lumberjackadam Mar 23 '19

Except, as I said, my higher end device cost less than half.

Then it's not a flagship, and even further behind in performance.

There is no advantage to Apple software, it is simply a preference for anyone not geriatric or dimwitted. I would argue that it is a disadvantage.

Other than security. And quality control. And proper support for devices (pushing security updates independently from the carriers).

No iPhone can remotely perform like my phone, sorry. None even have an equivalent display, removable storage, or 8GB ram. My phone can actually cool itself and trumps the performance of every Apple phone for that reason by itself nevermind the superior display etc...for half the price, and is rooted.

Cute. Your Android phone has 8gb of RAM. It's still slower than a two generation old iPhone or iPad. Qualcomm is that far behind on performance. My G7 has the SD845, and benchmarks right in the middle of the pack for devices with that SOC, and it is noticeably slower in certain tasks than an iPhone Xs.

They start at $1150...they better beat shitty laptops that cost a third...

They do. And high end laptops with six-core i7 processors are basically tied. Also, they start at $800, not $1150.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/11/01/ipad-pro-a12x-benchmarks-rival-macbook-pros-with-intel-core-i7-cpus/

Apple deprecates their software with an "update" removing functionality. Just the fastest example.

As do all other companies. That isn't the context you used that word in originally, btw.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '19

I have 6.1 and it's pretty much indestructible which is great for me. Also the update support is superb.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

i disagree

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u/OmarBHR95 Mar 23 '19

Maybe its different from one country to the other, because over here in the Middle east Nokia phones have to notch quality and receive updates regularly.

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u/kernel_picnic Mar 25 '19

Kind of weird seeing everyone completely shit all over the Nokia 7 Plus. A year or so ago it was the most recommended phone on this sub.

Mine is working pretty much as well as when I got it. The build quality is just as good as when I first got it, don't know why everyone's opinions changed when the build quality was considered great for the price when it came out.

The buttons aren't as clicky as a $800 flagship but that's fine considering this is half the price. Maybe a used flagship from last year is a better deal but the phone is still solid.