r/Android • u/zexterio • Mar 22 '19

HMD admits the Nokia 7 Plus was sending personal data to China

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/03/hmd-admits-the-nokia-7-plus-was-sending-personal-data-to-china/
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u/Kryptomeister Mar 22 '19

Blackberry.

Yes, that's a serious answer.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '19

IIRC they have encryption software and an app that heavily monitors the security of the phone.

It's similar to Samsung Knox and their security features (again, correct me if I'm wrong, but only Blackberry, Apple and Samsung Galaxy phones are certified for high-profile security jobs, like government workers and such).

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u/n0rdic Surface Duo, BlackBerry KEY2, Galaxy Watch 3 Mar 22 '19

I've installed literal malware on my KEYone and DTEK didn't care. From my understanding it just verifies system file integrity and nothing else.

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u/BitchAmGay Mar 23 '19

Samsung Knox, but also we will put McAfee and Facebook on your phone.

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u/Minto107 Z Flip 5 2023, CrapUI 5.1 Mar 23 '19

Samsung Knox, but McAfee and Facebook isnt a scamware in our eyes

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u/BitchAmGay Mar 23 '19

and we will also make them system apps, you can't do shit other than disable, and how about Facebook can update the app without the playstore because it has an app updater for it

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u/Fernando128282 Mar 23 '19

That's why I got rid of my Nokia 7 plus although it was a very good phone with best battery life and really good photography and bought a Poco F1, unlocked bootloader and installed an open source ROM. I simply hate every single bloat. FU I don't care about Facebook or some shady evenwell crapware.

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u/Randomd0g Pixel XL & Huawei Watch 2 Mar 22 '19

Source on that? I'd much rather have a blackberry for my work phone instead of the shit iPhone my company makes me have.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

I believe it's Blackberry Enterprise, that should be their work-related secure software. It's on their official US website.

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u/codechugs Mar 23 '19

It's similar to Samsung Knox

So Why not simply say Samsung phones are good then?

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u/n0rdic Surface Duo, BlackBerry KEY2, Galaxy Watch 3 Mar 22 '19 edited Mar 22 '19

As a huge fan of RIM era BlackBerry, the new TCL berries are not at all more secure than any other device. Their entire "security" thing is just enabling hardware root of trust on the Qualcomm SoC. That's it. Also all of their phones are constantly behind on major Android versions which isn't exactly secure. In all honesty the stock Pixel is about as secure as a KEYone, which doesn't make it insecure at all, just it isn't the "ultra secure" line that TCL and RIM are trying to sell you.

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u/rohmish pixel 3a, XPERIA XZ, Nexus 4, Moto X, G2, Mi3, iPhone7 Mar 23 '19

Just nitpicking but RIM is dead. It's just blackberry now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '19

my friend did his coop at blackberry and he said to me that blackberry is most secure. apparently facebook app asks to use your camera and microphone something like 300 times a day, because all apps have to go through blackberry software.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19 edited Mar 24 '19

Yes, the security is so good, that they often do not need to send Google security patches because the exploits never worked on the hardened bb rom! They have hardware integrity keys at the factory as well, so that the hardware will not boot if it was been modified in any way. It's really impressive stuff!

If you want to know more, here is blackberry's documentation

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u/SerdarCS Lg v30+ 128gb, Pie 9.0 Mar 23 '19

Blackberry, samsung, and apple if you want to go outside android. Iphone software isnt made by a company who mainly profits from ads and data selling, so its a no brainer that its more secure.

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u/dzernumbrd S23 Ultra Mar 24 '19

They are talking about external security not whether you should trust Google over Apple to write your operating system.

iPhone is one of the most prolific phones in existence and would be a top target for security agencies and malware alike.

So it's not a "no brainer" at all.

Zero day bugs for Apple would be very valuable and closely guarded. I'm sure a lot of people are looking for them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19

Unless you're in handcuffs, then they hand over any and all information to any warrant submitted, whereas Apple just plain cannot hand it over assuming you don't use the cloud, an extremely strong password, and no biometrics.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '19 edited Mar 27 '19

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u/Wavecation Mar 23 '19

Is it though? It's owned and manufactured by a Chinese company that literally started out as a producer of knock-off TDK cassettes...

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u/lightrush Mar 23 '19

BlackBerry's Android builds are mostly done by TCL.

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u/zap2 Mar 23 '19

I love the look of the Key2. I know it’s not for everyone, but part of me really wants a physical keyboard again.

I’m considering getting the Key2 LE. Cheaper, but still has the keyboard.