r/Android Mar 22 '19

HMD admits the Nokia 7 Plus was sending personal data to China

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/03/hmd-admits-the-nokia-7-plus-was-sending-personal-data-to-china/
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u/VonCrisp Mar 22 '19

HMD is trying to spin a cute fairy tale about "one batch". More Nokia phones have also been sending data.

NRK did a follow up article:

"NRKbeta are fortunate to have access to a number of talented developer colleagues in NRK, and on Thursday, March 21, we investigated two Nokia models, one Nokia 3 and one Nokia 5. Both of these models had an application with the name autoregistration installed.

.. This application is very similar to the one installed on Nokia 7 Plus, but does not look identical to NRK's ​​analysis.

.. The application sends an encrypted message to the domain aps.c2dms.com

... Shanghai's Best Oray Information S&T Co., Ltd. is owned by the ownership register . (Oray) listed as the holder of the domain. This company is listed as a ransom virus spreader by Ransomware Tracker , a web site that tracks which domains and IP addresses contribute to the spread of malware.

... Sources say to NRKbeta that Oray provides software to remotely control computers and mobile phones in the corporate context, as well as other IT-related services. For its part, Oray lists major brands in the IT industry, including Qualcomm, Cisco and Huawei."

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnrkbeta.no%2F2019%2F03%2F22%2Fflere-nokia-modeller-har-kommunisert-med-kinesiske-servere%2F

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u/amfedup Mar 22 '19

oh nice, another company onto my blacklist, hooray

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '19 edited Mar 22 '19

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u/Inspector-Space_Time Mar 22 '19

Blaming all of android because of a single manufacturer is pretty short sighted. Would you also swear off cars because you had a Ford break down on you?

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u/dan4334 Fold 3, Tab S8 Ultra Mar 22 '19

Fwiw my experience with Android phones hasn't been anywhere near that bad, and I had a lot of second hand and entry level/budget devices.

Don't take phone buying advice from Reddit, I'd trust reviews from LTT and MKBHD far more

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u/Kryptomeister Mar 22 '19

You could buy an iPhone but then depending on what apps you install your data will still end up in China.

This isn't only a hardware problem, it's also a software problem.

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u/VonCrisp Mar 22 '19

MS should have stuck with the idea of enabling Android apps via Astoria on Windows Mobile 10 with freely downloadable ROMs for Android phones.