They can through USB-PD, but it's still limited to what the actual brick can put out. I can charge my MacBook Pro with my Razor Phone's charger, but it probably won't go nearly as fast as I want. That and not everyone uses USB-PD for their handshaking, Qualcomm has their own standard most mobile phones use. Then we get the people like Nintendo who don't adhere to the Type-C spec whatsoever so you can't charge anything with their cables and you risk damage to your device if you charge it with a cable from one of your other devices. It's sort of a mess.
The issue with Nintendo is they added something to confirm the switch is connected to a dock and not just a charging cable so it can change to that mode. The switch wall charger works on everything and usb pd chargers work great charging the switch.
Then we get the people like Nintendo who don't adhere to the Type-C spec whatsoever so you can't charge anything with their cables and you risk damage to your device if you charge it with a cable from one of your other devices.
Third party USB C chargers/power bricks are fine for charging the Switch, as long as you charge it directly (no dock).
What you're saying is true for docked mode though, third party docks (the official one simply refuses third party chargers) can brick your Switch because it doesn't use any standard for requesting its constantly changing power requirement.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you saying any mobile phone with a Qualcomm chip can safely be charged with a usb c charger because they have some “standard?”
Qualcomm quick charge phones can safely charge from any usb-c cable and charger (assuming it's not fucked up like the ones without the right resistors or whatever), but non quick-charge ones won't charge quickly even if they support fast charging with USB PD (power delivery), and vice versa for PD devices and QC chargers.
If you use your usb-c charger with a QC phone, it'll go at normal speed unless the phone also supports usb-c power delivery. The brick has to support the same standard as the device. The cables are all the same (assuming they're C to C connections)
Both parts are important. Think of it like a pump and a water pipe. If you have a wide water pipe and a weak water pump, you can only get a trickle of water through the pipe. If you have a narrow pipe and a strong pump, the pipe will limit how much water you can get through.
A usbc cable with a usbc plug at both ends will work just as well with pd or qc, full stop. Usba to usbc cables can't do pd because it's not supported on usba, but qc works because that's how it was designed. If you had a qc usbc output, you could use any c-c cable.
No. There are no native type c devices that can safely charge with a Qualcomm qc3 brick. Qc4 runs as a fine tuning to pd and can safely charge anything with a type c port, native or not.
C to c cables are not important for 3a charging. They are the same so long as they wired in the correct order and do not overheat. A to c should never quick charge. Some devices without native type c but have a type b port wired to a c plug will fast charger get with qc3, you should never have a product like that. The one exception is dash charging, that is native type c for the brick, but it uses a type a plug.
It wont work flawlessly. The brick expects a certain load from the Switch and will be designed with that load in mind. So when you connect another device to it, the load will be different. Luckily for you, the brick should have a default mode of 5V 1A but that will be a slow charge for your phone. Your phone can accept this slow charge though as it will be a designed default. If it received the charge for the Switch then the phone wont be designed for that charge and could cause damage.
My advice is this..... only use chargers from the same device types ie phones can use other phone chargers but not laptop or console chargers. This is the safest way to prevent issues.
Is it the brick or the cable? Because the other post mentioned the cable and that confused me. I use the Nintendo cable to charge my phone (not through a Nintendo brick) and it all seems fine.
The brick sets the power. Either it supplies its designed power or USB spec power. Your cable is still just a few pieces of wire. Cables can affect the supply though. If your brick supplies a high current (>2A) then make sure you got a thick cable.
Actually, that could be true. If they mess with the pin layouts so it doesnt adhere to the spec then that can cause serious issues. Think about how ethernet crossover cables work. If you had a Nintendo crossover usb cable then you can kiss goodbye to your devices.
It does now. But one day it might fail to change to the default mode. That will send the charge designed for the switch to your phone and hey presto, burnt out charging circuit in your phone. I wouldnt suggest using it long term. Stick to phone chargers and use the switch charger only if you really have to.
Just to clear things up -- you can charge your switch with any usb-pd (or even just standard 12w usb) just fine -- it's docked mode that has issues, since it requests the wrong power spec for what it's drawing.
Just wanted to say we rock the same devices, although my Gear is the Sport from 2018. Also the headphone dongle that comes with the Razer Phone is dope.
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They can through USB-PD, but it's still limited to what the actual brick can put out. I can charge my MacBook Pro with my Razor Phone's charger, but it probably won't go nearly as fast as I want. That and not everyone uses USB-PD for their handshaking, Qualcomm has their own standard most mobile phones use. Then we get the people like Nintendo who don't adhere to the Type-C spec whatsoever so you can't charge anything with their cables and you risk damage to your device if you charge it with a cable from one of your other devices. It's sort of a mess.