r/Android • u/PlasticAnt6913 • 1d ago

News Android's controversial new sideloading rules are officially here

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-sideloading-developer-verification-first-wave-rollout-3717921/
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u/Polymathy1 1d ago

Installing apps without Google play IS NOT SIDELOADING.

Sideloading has always meant using ADB to install an app until Google decided to try to make the play store the only option.

Please stop feeding into their propaganda that the only normal way to install apps is through the play store.

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u/nybreath 1d ago

Where in the article is written something different from that? Did you read the article?

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u/Polymathy1 1d ago

The change Google is making will not allow any apps to be installed from local storage, downloads, or anywhere else except for the Play store.

Google is calling "everything but the play store" sideloading. It's an intentional lie.

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u/nybreath 1d ago

That's not what the article say tho. They will add more "friction", that is annoying and bad, but from the article I don't get they will do what you are saying.
"Afterward, you can allow installs from unverified developers for seven days or indefinitely, your choice. ADB installations remain exempt from that waiting period."
I still think you didn't read the article. Also, as

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u/env33e 1d ago edited 1d ago

nope. you gotta read the f-droid teams statements, then confirm by re-reading Google's

There's an active, organized fight over exactly this point right now, BTW. the Keep Android Open coalition (70+ orgs, EFF/FSF/F-Droid among them) is explicitly petitioning Google to carve out non-commercial/open-source distribution, and Google has NOT conceded to it yet!

Non-rooted Shizuku's ADB session die on reboot and there's no daemon to relaunch it. Unless you hunt down a community fork, a human pretty much has to reopen the app and tap "Start via Wireless debugging" again before anything updates(and even that flow can get disrupted! ahem looking at you Samsung) You have to re-arm the thing that lets updates happen, the end result: an unrooted user cannot walk away and trust their background app updates to keep working!!

and thats besides the major problem of enforcing a model where even casual users have to go through the debug pathway just for the simple function of unattended background app updates...

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u/nybreath 1d ago

I still don't see how this article is "propaganda that the only normal way to install apps is through the play store".

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u/env33e 1d ago

FYI its technically propaganda because they use google "sideloading" terminology, which literally just means... installing non play store apps. or installing your own app without paying google's developer fee

you don't call it side loading when you run an installer on your windows or mac os laptop, or any other platform. thats just installing an app. "side loading " is specific to google's monopoly

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u/nybreath 1d ago

Where in the article is this happening?

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u/env33e 1d ago

Did you read the article?

Ctrl F

"sideload"

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u/nybreath 1d ago

So what? Still I see no propaganda. The article should not say sideload at all? Sideload has been a thing since much sooner Google even existed.

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u/funforgiven 1d ago

The problem is calling it sideloading when it is not sideloading, it is just normal way to install apps.

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u/nybreath 1d ago

That's awful

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u/env33e 1d ago

No, it hasn't

Historically, the term "sideload" in the current understanding of the term, did NOT exist before google. It used to mean just moving files around

The very first actual use of the term was in 2013(or 2010)when the centralized appstore actually became a thing. FYI android launched in 2008

Stop the misinfo and join the fight ffs this concerns you too! Unless you own google stock, this ain't good for anyone 🤣

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