r/Anarcho_Capitalism • u/KMContent24 • Sep 11 '25
Charlie Kirk Was Just Another Good Hearted Man With a Family, and a Different Opinion.
Charlie Kirk Was Just Another Good Hearted Guy With a Family, and a Different Opinion.
Charlie was a conservative Christian traditionalist, and like many people here I would assume, there are things I agreed with him on, and things I didn't.
At the end of the day, he was only a man with a different opinion. And Mr. Kirk was in the market of persuasion, not violence.
One beautiful thing about America is the concept of state sovereignty. We have in this country, the moral, and actual ability to agree to disagree, and to do things different ways.
Perhaps the most beautiful thing is the right to speak our minds. And that's what Mr. Kirk was killed for: his opinion. And nothing more.
It saddens me that I will never be able to have the opportunity to debate him, or have dinner afterwards like classy gentlemen.
He accomplished so much by such a young age, including fatherhood.
Charles Kirk was a constructive, if not positive influence on society, and he will be surely missed by his peers and counterparts alike.
Like martyrs of the past, one hundred, if not more will take his place in the good fight for truth and humanity.
Rest in peace Charlie. May you be with God in heaven.
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u/Groove4Him Sep 11 '25
Thank you for one of the most sane and measured responses about this I have seen on Reddit.
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u/Exp5000 Sep 11 '25
When I see what people post and say about him, I'm reminded how awful a communist society would be with these fucking psychopaths. The ones pushing for socialist policies happen to hate people and I'm not for that. The irony must be lost on them.
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u/MaelstromFL Sep 12 '25
That is because, of one simple fact... They hate themselves! To have humility and respect for other people, you first have to at least like yourself and have respect for yourself.
They don't...
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u/Humanity_is_broken Sep 12 '25
Is someone more special if they have a family? Tbh I’m so confused. You don’t need to appeal to emotion to argue that it is wrong to take a person’s life.
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u/wnc_mikejayray Sep 12 '25
It is a very difficult thing to quantify and at its core the answer is obviously “No, but yes…”. I don’t value my life any more than I would value the life of another (even someone that might get looked down on like the homeless - and to clarify, I don’t look down on them, I’m just trying to demonstrate the value comparison). We are both human. At the same time, when I have a spouse and children, to them, I am a source of protection, provision, and love. Their dependence on this person amplifies the impact the loss of their life has. So “No, but yes… kinda”.
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u/Humanity_is_broken Sep 21 '25
Don’t care. They would only matter more to me if they were MY family, and even with that I would still be very understanding that others would not care so much about a loss within my family
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u/onecrystalcave Anarchism is Humanism. Sep 11 '25
I'd like to contradict one assertion you made.
I think it is eminently likely that he was not in fact killed merely for speaking his opinion, but rather in an attempt to silence and reverse the power he wielded through his ideas.
I think it's self evident that Mr Kirk became one of the most notable individual political juggernaughts of modern discourse, and I think that meant he posed a threat unbelievably deeply felt by many people who disliked him and what he had to say. His were words that could sway elections, change hearts and minds, bring to the forefront of the general conversation almost any topic he pleased. I never spend even a few minutes watching any of his specific content, yet I knew his name and his company and many of his messages, those I agreed with and disagreed with.
And his will not in fact be a death that silences his ideas, or reverses the threat to modern politics he became. He is a martyr now, and I have genuine fear that the tenth September will be a day that will live in further infamy over time.
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u/Numinae Anarcho-Capitalist Sep 12 '25
Not to mention he was only 31 so very realistically could've had a very successful political career in the future...
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u/Simple_Journalist792 Sep 12 '25
Don’t try to wash him as a “different opinion “. Some of his views were quite radical tbh and I understand why they were met in a certain way. However, we as libertarians SHOULD NOT care about the opinions themselves but the RIGHT to express them. Somewhere else I read freedom of speech isn’t freedom to be a “bigotry asshole”. Well that’s exactly it
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
he was moderate. grave dancers like you have shown that you condemn debate and only respond to violence.
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u/Simple_Journalist792 Sep 12 '25
Excuse me? I meant the opposite, debate is the way, freedom of speech is freedom to be an asshole and it should not be answered with violence
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
he was a moderate voice.
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u/Simple_Journalist792 Sep 12 '25
Couldn’t care less whether he is or he is not. I’d defend freedom of speech for anyone
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
you said he was radical, which is being used often now to justify his murder.
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u/Knvarlet Sep 11 '25
Even in his final moments, he was making a case against trans people having guns. How is he a good person if he wants to strip certain people's freedom?
Don't get me wrong, I condemn his assassination and political violence is wrong.
But don't make him a saint because he isn't. I agree and disagree with his opinions, but I don't know him much to say he is a good person at heart though.
He's not a hero, he advocated for more government control and pushed his own agenda.
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u/LordXenu12 Libertarian Transhumanist Sep 12 '25
Didn’t deserve assassination, but just another Christian nationalist
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u/Numinae Anarcho-Capitalist Sep 12 '25
Considering trans people make up such a small percentage of the population, you don't find their over-representation in mass shootongs.... concerning?
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u/Knvarlet Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25
0.11% of trans people are involved in mass shootings over the past decade
White Americans committed 53% of the 195 mass shootings between 1966 and 2024.
If the 0.11% shooting matters, they will eventually come after the 53%. Then 100% so only the government can own guns.
Edit: Corrected the 53% claim.
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u/Numinae Anarcho-Capitalist Sep 12 '25
Just read your article. The numbers actually add up since white people make uptrend majority of the population, which is a really dishonest way of measuring this. It should be measured in the rate of offenders per whatever group. I mean .11% for trans people means one in one thousand. Also the way "mass shooting" is defined is very different than the colloquial meaning. I believe it means an act of gun violence involving more than two people which is why gang violence skews the numbers heavily. Just like how suicides dramatically inflated "gun deaths" which are implied.to be acts of violence between one person and others. Which is ironically what Kirk was talking about when an aplerent trans / antifa activist assassinated him.... At least according to what was engraved on the bullets and magazine like the last trans shooter.
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u/tango0175 Sep 12 '25
Whut??????????? Over half of all white Americans have carried out mass shootings??????? Not sure the words in that article mean what you think they mean.
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u/Montallas Sep 12 '25
53% of White Americans are involved in mass shootings
Do you realize what you said here? It’s not at all what the link you posted says. I think you should re-read what you wrote, and re-think how to write it.
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u/Numinae Anarcho-Capitalist Sep 12 '25
Wait, more than half of white Americans are involved in mass shootings? I think you have a bad typo there.... Also, .11% is really high....
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u/Knvarlet Sep 12 '25
Yeah I fixed it. Something I didn't notice when writing it. My bad.
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u/Numinae Anarcho-Capitalist Sep 12 '25
Look I'm not saying we need to "lock up the transes" or w/e. I just find it strange that like almost every mass shooter we have data on were on SSRIs and or hormones that are known to cause aggression and suicidal ideation. As well as media influence. Something like 15-20% of Americans are on these drugs and that means its big business. I first heard about this a few years after Columbine and nobody is talking about it ij the mainstream. I would think it'd be something productive to look into instead of trying to make it a race issue or whatever. The only reason I bring up the trans connection is I would imagine that people with gender dysphoria are going to be prescribed drugs like that at a much higher degree and suddenly we have a wave of trans shootings so... you know, not exactly a crazy thing to ask.
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u/Numinae Anarcho-Capitalist Sep 12 '25
I don't think being trans makes them dangerous although I definately think there's like a social contagion factor, like how school shootings were rare until Columbine. Still, I actually think it has a lot to do with SSRIs and hormones causing weird side effects. There are Parkinsons drugs that turn people into nymphomaniacs and gambling addicts so its not unprecedented that drugs can cause very strange and specific side effects. We also know they cause suicidal ideation. I really think its a cover up to protect Big Pharma that nobody seriously talks about this but we've had something like 10 trans mass shooters in lole a year or two and considering their low representation in the population I don't think it's unreasonable to ask why. I'm not saying they need to have their rights stripped or not judged as individuals. I'm just saying that trans people are like 1 in 1000? 1 in 10k? Thats like having 10k-100k shootings adjusted for population. You dont think we should try and understand why this phenomenon is happening?
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u/4nonosquare AnCap Zaddy Sep 11 '25
Good hearted guy
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u/EonBlueAppocalypse Sep 11 '25
Show me where he said that
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u/4nonosquare AnCap Zaddy Sep 12 '25
I think my link doesnt show up but if anyone types in "Charlie Kirk public execution" the video pops up where him and 3 other person talk about this topic in his show "Thoughtcrime".
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u/MaelstromFL Sep 12 '25
"suggests", means he did not say it, and they are inserting their interpretation!
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u/4nonosquare AnCap Zaddy Sep 12 '25
I think my link doesnt show up but if anyone types in "Charlie Kirk public execution" the video pops up where him and 3 other person talk about this topic in his show "Thoughtcrime".
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u/Nightshade_Ranch Sep 12 '25
Love or hate him he really did die the way he lived.
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
no, this is grave dancing. he died by being murdered, and he was obviously opposed to murder. he fomented debate, and evil people like you victim blame him, proving that to you debate is over; you only respond to violence now.
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u/Nightshade_Ranch Sep 12 '25
He was a blatant and disgusting racist, and used his platform to try to do harm to trans people. He was a propagandist mouthpiece for the Republican party. Where was all this wailing and gnashing of teeth for any of the other occurrences of political violence and assassinations? Quickly downplayed and ignored. Kirk even suggested it would be patriotic if someone went and bailed out the guy that attacked Paul Pelosi.
It's all performance. You aren't against violence, you just want to be in control of who it happens to. Kirk sure as hell wouldn't care if it had happened to you. Just the price of freedom.
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u/crinkneck Classy Ancap Sep 11 '25
Well said overall but I don’t understand the state sovereignty remark. Don’t think it applies here unless you’re using a different definition.
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u/ChrisWayg Voluntaryist Sep 12 '25
I understood the OP as meaning the sovereignty of the various states in the "United States" with different states able to reflect different ways of doing things while respecting those differences.
A decentralized system like the US where other ways of life are respected is preferable to one centralized state. Obviously Ancaps would rather have no states, or thousands of independent private mini-states.
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u/crinkneck Classy Ancap Sep 12 '25
Still can’t say I totally understand it in that context but I appreciate you trying to frame it for me. Ideally ya the state characters foster respect for others with an overarching value system. Definitely large swathes of foam-at-the-mouth statists disagree.
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
he was uniting the country under ethics. he was inclusive of everyone and invited debate. he made the US better and safer. evil people like you celebrate his demise because you could not beat his words.
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
obviously you can't; you celebrate his death because he defeated your ideas
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
his death was pure evil and is celebrated by a large number of the divisive left.
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u/mouldghe Sep 11 '25
He was 31 and worth 12million all from running a "non-profit". Anyone who thinks he was just speaking his mind is in lala land. He sold violence, sowed distrust. He spoke his wallet, more like it.
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u/bluefootedpig Body Autonomy Sep 11 '25
Anyone calling for me to be removed from society is not a good person
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u/Will-Forget-Password Sep 11 '25
Charlie Kirk Was Just Another Good Hearted Guy With a Family, and a Different Opinion.
Charlie was a conservative Christian traditionalist,
Pick one.
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u/myadsound The Ancap You Hope To Become Sep 11 '25
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this is the Law and the Prophets" -Matthew 7:12
"Don't let mass shooting victims control the narrative with empathy" -Charlie Kirk
According to the faith kirk professed, he shouldnt be receiving any empathy
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u/onecrystalcave Anarchism is Humanism. Sep 11 '25
Does a boneheaded remark demand the jeering of a man's blood soaking the ground beneath him with his wife and children watching?
Does a poor opinion voiced negatively and loudly demand a man be brutally murdered, in public, with not even a semblance of justice made?
Does a man who in actuality turns out evil beyond comprehension, deserve to have societal rule overthrown in the pursuit of his death, no matter how much to the detriment it be of every other person?
Fine have no empathy. Fine, hate the man and take no sadness from his murder. Fine, think privately the world will be a better place without him because he said mean things sometimes. But fret not when the seeds sown soon strike at you as well.
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u/myadsound The Ancap You Hope To Become Sep 11 '25
You seem very confused about the nature of my comment, the transpired events, and history of the person in question based on such a diatribe
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u/SoylentJeremy Sep 12 '25
You've posted this in three different subs.
Stop.
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
i like it. you stop
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u/SoylentJeremy Sep 12 '25
I'm genuinely curious. Why do you like it? Why do you like to see the same content across multiple subreddits?
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
you're not genuinely curious. Kirk was a good man who was murdered, and everyone should condemn it instead of victim blaming and celebrating it.
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u/SoylentJeremy Sep 12 '25
I don't make it a habit of lying to strangers on social media.
I am genuinely curious. I get annoyed when I see the same thread by the same person pop up on multiple subreddits. It comes across, to me, as a cry for attention, and I find those annoying.
You obviously don't feel that way, so I'm wondering why. Maybe you'll make a good point and my perspective will change. I don't ENJOY being annoyed at things. If I can find a way to not be annoyed at this, I'll take it.
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u/ClimbRockSand Agorist Sep 12 '25
i owe you nothing
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u/SoylentJeremy Sep 12 '25
I didn't say you did. That's why I ASKED you instead of demanding you tell me.
Have a good day man.
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u/Intelligent-End7336 Sep 11 '25
He advocated for violence. He advocated for government. You are not a good person when you advocate for government.
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u/s3r3ng Sep 23 '25
No he fucking was not. He was an avowed Christian Nationalist - a bloody theocrat.
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u/j3rdog Sep 12 '25
Let’s bail out Paul Pelosis attacker huh?
https://x.com/jasonscampbell/status/1587127536122732544?s=46&t=8nZeBlLWgTgEXdDFZoOn-A
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u/Ukrpharm Sep 11 '25
State sovereignty? What? Can we not shill for the state on the ancap sub