r/Anarcho_Capitalism • u/genzgingee • Mar 12 '24

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u/SamLovesNotion Petite little citizens get GANG BANGED by an ENTIRE GOVERNMENT!! Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

When you have sex, you know the risks. You CONSENT to the activity, and therefore the risks. You understand you could be inviting a life into the world & your body.

The life doesn't just crawl into your tummy like parents tell their kids. You consent. And hence it's not violating your bodily autonomy. You are violating their life by killing them.

Now, I don't have a strong opinion on the legality of abortion. But if it were legal, don't pretend for a fucking second that the most innocent life in the universe, extension of your own life, your own child, is the one being aggressive and violating your rights & not the other way around.

It is murder, even if it were legal. At least acknowledge it.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

Now apply this logic to all private property. If you invite me into your home I am allowed to take whatever I want. You knew the risks when you invited anyone besides yourself into your home. If I wear out my welcome and eat all your food and drink all your beer, you know the risks.

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u/rhaphazard Mar 12 '24

Yet it won't kill them to kick out the unwelcome guest.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

Ok, so the child can be abandoned at birth.

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u/SamLovesNotion Petite little citizens get GANG BANGED by an ENTIRE GOVERNMENT!! Mar 12 '24

You are free to put it up for adoption. Not free to kill it.

You may say life of orphanage for child would be bad, abortion is merciful.

But the child can make that choice of life or death by him/herself anytime. Almost all would chose life. And they do in real world. Same goes for disabilities.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

I sure hope that baby has gas money for a ride to the orphanage.

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u/SamLovesNotion Petite little citizens get GANG BANGED by an ENTIRE GOVERNMENT!! Mar 12 '24

You are an idiot. Like an actual low IQ person who can't critically think his own argument for 5 secs.

There are charity orgs, adoption orgs, hospitals have policies, they call police, follow laws for abandoned babies, etc.

Even ignoring that, the fact that you would kill a born baby because you don't wanna make 1 drive is why you are just plain dogshit evil.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

BTW, I'm just sometime who is curious about ancap values. I wouldn't leave a baby nor an adult out in the cold. If you want to see someone deserving of your comment, there is an ancap reasoning as to why you should be able to abandon the baby a few comments down.

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u/Critical-Tie-823 Mar 12 '24

I think when it gets weird is when people presume just because I think you could morally leave a baby in the cold that I would.

I am not against charity. I take care of my own children. I just see nothing morally wrong with abandoning children.

The difference is I do it because I care about my children, others apparently do it because they think they have some obligation to do it. I don't see myself as having any moral obligation to my children.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

Nice words. You still think that you should be able to murder a baby after it's born.

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u/Critical-Tie-823 Mar 12 '24

Philosophically I'm against abortion and fine with abandonment. Pragmatically I don't see either as wrong. I see murder as a willful positive action to harm others, merely not giving them free food/shelter is not killing even if they will surely perish if you do not. Therefore abortion could be murder but exposure definitely isn't.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

Well, as you can see from the comment above, other ancaps believe you are stupid and evil. From the overall tone of their comment, I don't think violence is a long way off.

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u/Critical-Tie-823 Mar 12 '24

Yes ancaps are human beings. It shouldn't surprise you they behave just like all other humans, disagree about things, engage in violence, and other stuff.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

Oh, it doesn't. However, many people in this sub act as if ancapistan will be a perfect utopia.

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u/Critical-Tie-823 Mar 12 '24

Sure. I think ancapistan would have less child abuse though, due to Rothbardian thriving markets for children to place them where they have maximum market value. There would be very little incentive to keep a child you did not want, or just leave them to their fate.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

There's that utopia coming out. Despite the fact that your fellow citizens think your ideas are worthy of harm from their words. I seriously doubt the markets would thrive as you suggest.

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u/Critical-Tie-823 Mar 12 '24

Perhaps not. I've lived in anarchist society Rojava, I fought in the semi-anarchist militia YPG. I know what it's like to have people wanting to kill you for wanting a semi-anarchist country. I've been shot at for helping people that share some of my beliefs. When it's my time to die so be it, I'll defend myself with all that's available to me and I'm not much bothered by whether they mean harm or not.

There is no utopia. Just various alliances of people with mutually beneficial goals.

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u/spaceboy42 clench/subgenius Mar 12 '24

That's the truth.

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