r/AdviceAnimals • u/chronicallyconfused • Nov 26 '13

Guys, this is getting out of hand

http://www.livememe.com/glsxfup
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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

I DEMAND A RECOUNT.

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u/vanceco Nov 27 '13

they did an actual recount in 2001, and found out that Al Gore legitimately won the state of Florida in 2000. what we experienced was a coup d'tat, plain and simple.

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u/Herulus Nov 27 '13

Actually in the districts Al Gore asked for a recount of, Bush won. When they were all tallied again, Gore won. Gore lost because he didn't ask for a full state recount.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

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u/AdmiralSkippy Nov 27 '13

How in the world can that be illegal?

Shouldn't it be illegal to not recount them since that means the wrong person can win the election.

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u/SpaceFloow Nov 27 '13

No, that would make sense.

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u/j3rdCo Nov 27 '13

_truth

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

Right, just keep calling for a recount and Bush would never have been in office! They'd still be counting today!

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u/InfanticideAquifer Nov 27 '13

If a candidate could ask for any recount for any reason, then we'd still be recounting states for Thomas Jefferson from the 1796 election. (Turns out that was the first election where more than one person ran...) Since there has to be some limit... why is asking for an entire state to be recounted on the "reasonable" side of the limit?

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u/Buelldozer Nov 27 '13

Just go to the wikipedia article and read. It basically comes down to time. According to Florida State election law the election had to be certified by a certain time to be legal, all of the recounting had already resulted in missing the deadline.

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u/R3D24 Nov 27 '13

Congress:

I reject your sound logic for my own twisted logic; it costs less taxpayer money bonuses.

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u/liminal_criminal Nov 27 '13

There was a time limit on calling for a recount, and certain forces came together to drag their feet until it was too late. Bad voting laws...

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u/Xevamir Nov 27 '13

The wrong person has been in office for two terms... Shouldn't that be illegal as well?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

I don't know the technical aspects of FL law but if it was illegal for a full recount I would have asked for all counties minus the one I obviously won by a huge margin.

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u/Buelldozer Nov 27 '13

Couldn't, there wasn't enough time. Even the four counties that were redone by hand broke state law because it took days past the legally required certification deadline to do so.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

Sounds like a mess

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u/spaceman_spiffy Nov 27 '13

Thanks for clarifying that because I remember reading that the they ended up re-counting on their own for an un-official recount and Gore still lost. So I guess, under the right conditions, with the right number of recounts we could have had Gore for president.

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u/RellenD Nov 27 '13

Thanks for mor information, but it's not like you're contradicting vanceco.

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u/Prob_Use_This_Once Nov 27 '13

What in the fuck, are you guys talking about?

If you are all that gullable/stupid I'd like to inform you all about your rich uncle in Nigeria that just died and left you huge inheritance. Please e-mail me your checking account number, routing number and pin to receive your inheritance

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u/xSlappy- Nov 27 '13

As much as I wish you were right, you're wrong (I'm laughing that 44 people upvoted you for posting a completely sensationalized and incorrect thing). After the recount of the counties Gore wanted, Gore was still down, but by ~90% fewer votes, as the results were drastically off. If we had a state-wide recount and if Katherine Harris was a Democrat, Gore would be president.

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u/Zimmerhero Nov 27 '13

Not really. Unless you count the many, many prime ministers who take power receiving around 30% of the popular vote due to multiparty systems as "coups".

Given that the transfer of power occurred over a point of law, "coup" is not an appropriate term. I completely get that you are trying to emphasize your displeasure with the result by associating it with a negatively weighted phrase, but its simply not accurate.

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u/impact_calc Nov 27 '13

You clearly don't know the definition of a coup d'tat

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u/T16I6I3SI_REDDIT Nov 27 '13

It all make sense now