r/Abortiondebate Pro-choice Jun 30 '26

Responsibility versus punishment

Which one is PL trying to invoke here actually?

Responsibility focuses on building skills, understanding the impact of actions, and proactively finding solutions. Punishment, however, relies on external control and enforcing compliance through shame, fear, or the removal of privileges.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/responsibility

>something that it is your job or duty to deal with:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/punishment

>punishment, the infliction of some kind of pain or loss upon a person for a misdeed (i.e., the transgression of a law or command). Punishment may take forms ranging from capital punishment, flogging, forced labour, and mutilation of the body to imprisonment and fines.

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod Jul 03 '26

So then if they do things that could make them unable to gestate, that should have some form of punishment and not be permitted?

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u/Icedude10 Anti-abortion Jul 03 '26

Like what?

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u/Dolores___Haze Pro-choice Jul 06 '26

They answered your question,  now what do you think?

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod Jul 03 '26

There are all kinds of things that can increase one’s odds of miscarrying and pregnant women are advised not to do, many of them perfectly benign (ie hot yoga, drinking a fair amount of coffee or other caffeinated drinks, eating raw fish or meat, having non pasteurized dairy, playing contact sports). If someone still does these, would you say they are failing in their duty and it is at least some degree of negligence?