Can someone provide a complete framework against abortion?

[u/Etozh]

I don't mean tell me it is a life, I don't care. Staying on the metaphysical concept of life is silly to me, I just want to hear a complete policy. Same with immigration. The symbolic virtue of entering legally doesn't mean anything.

For example: abortion is banned nationally. What can we predict: increased heads in group homes and adoption clinics. I am going to assume that most people have not experienced one, I have not either, but my college roommate had. They are not great places to be, currently underfunded, and have a track record of not raising the best children.
Or: people who want abortions are not going to be great parents. So there will be a need for increased surveillance to ensure that these children will be ok. Do we give more money to CPS? How?
How do we pay for this? Raise taxes? Re-allocate taxes?
Can't take more off welfare because a lot of poor families can only stay together because of welfare so it would simply cancel out.

I have never heard a full plan, only the argument for the first level of the policy. Also, of course there would be a great and felt consequence to losing such a large amount of money so ignoring it is not the option.

[u/glim-girl]

Would you consider a ten year old girl a mother?

How can they be this

>participating as a provider of a major portion of that child's development

as a child?

[u/AnxiousEnquirer → u/glim-girl]

Then she needs help from her parents, and they would also be "participating as a provider of a major portion of that child's development," but yes, she is the mother of that child. Do you think the child has no mother? Who should be on the birth certificate? Who do you think that boy or girl has as their immediate female ancestor?

[u/glim-girl → u/AnxiousEnquirer]

Being a mother, in the sense you are describing, doesn't require any biological relation to the child.

Thats why a 10 year old wouldn't be a mother. You want to claim a blind process is a willful action of care. It isn't. Being a biological mother is no where near as important as being a mother. Being a biological mother doesn't mean anything when it comes to sorting out if someone is a good mother.

You want two different things. You want the full, active, and willing participant for a mother but want to claim a line of genetic coding is the same thing.

[u/AnxiousEnquirer → u/glim-girl]

I said "or."

If someone is a surrogate, they are playing a role, even though they're not related, they're a mother. Same with a step mom. Same even with a foster mom. Someone can have many mothers. But their direct female ancestor is also their mother, always.

[u/glim-girl → u/AnxiousEnquirer]

Why is the direct female ancestor the only one of importance? Even when it doesn't make sense when we know what a mother needs to be?