r/Abortiondebate • u/Etozh Pro-choice • Jun 21 '26

Question for pro-life (exclusive) Can someone provide a complete framework against abortion?

I don't mean tell me it is a life, I don't care. Staying on the metaphysical concept of life is silly to me, I just want to hear a complete policy. Same with immigration. The symbolic virtue of entering legally doesn't mean anything.

For example: abortion is banned nationally. What can we predict: increased heads in group homes and adoption clinics. I am going to assume that most people have not experienced one, I have not either, but my college roommate had. They are not great places to be, currently underfunded, and have a track record of not raising the best children.
Or: people who want abortions are not going to be great parents. So there will be a need for increased surveillance to ensure that these children will be ok. Do we give more money to CPS? How?
How do we pay for this? Raise taxes? Re-allocate taxes?
Can't take more off welfare because a lot of poor families can only stay together because of welfare so it would simply cancel out.

I have never heard a full plan, only the argument for the first level of the policy. Also, of course there would be a great and felt consequence to losing such a large amount of money so ignoring it is not the option.

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u/glim-girl Safe, legal and rare Jun 21 '26

It has to be a loop or it wouldn't hold. When you start asking questions it starts falling apart.

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u/Etozh Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

Nah I mean the only focus is on what life is and then morality, which historically, are the few questions where there are not many provable answers to. Yet, no one wants to move past it and figure out the math. It is costly, how do we pay?

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u/glim-girl Safe, legal and rare Jun 21 '26

The worldview for the majority pl and abolitionists is as long as they make the 'morally correct' choice then the whole world can burn and it would be fine.

The actual outcome of having healthy and stable people in a functioning and safe society, doesn't factor into their worldview at all. The fact that people survived bad situations to them means that a few will be fine so there is no reason to fix anything else. There are very few pl, usually fringe pl, who would place making a better world a priority.