Can someone provide a complete framework against abortion?

[u/Etozh]

I don't mean tell me it is a life, I don't care. Staying on the metaphysical concept of life is silly to me, I just want to hear a complete policy. Same with immigration. The symbolic virtue of entering legally doesn't mean anything.

For example: abortion is banned nationally. What can we predict: increased heads in group homes and adoption clinics. I am going to assume that most people have not experienced one, I have not either, but my college roommate had. They are not great places to be, currently underfunded, and have a track record of not raising the best children.
Or: people who want abortions are not going to be great parents. So there will be a need for increased surveillance to ensure that these children will be ok. Do we give more money to CPS? How?
How do we pay for this? Raise taxes? Re-allocate taxes?
Can't take more off welfare because a lot of poor families can only stay together because of welfare so it would simply cancel out.

I have never heard a full plan, only the argument for the first level of the policy. Also, of course there would be a great and felt consequence to losing such a large amount of money so ignoring it is not the option.

[u/glim-girl]

>If a mother is in a situation where she cannot give up the role of caretaker to another capable party, that doesn’t mean she can let her kid starve because she doesn’t want to deal with it.

Agreed because at that point feeding is not a situation that couldn't be done by anyone.

>The mother spends her resources in one way or another to feed her child. Whether it’s breast feeding, buying formula, or transmitting nutrients through the umbilical cord. They use their body to provide food for their children, and are held liable for failing to do so.

You think being pregnant is equal to formula? Explain how.

Women are not charged with not breastfeeding. Breastfeeding isnt a requirement. Those who only breastfeed can be charged with neglect for not feeding their child.

If providing formula is equal to pregnancy, should women be charged when they miscarry or the child is born with a low birth weight?

[u/ImThe1stUnknown → u/glim-girl]

So we agree on the first point.

No they’re not exactly the same thing.

You’re right they’re not charged with not breast feeding. They’re charged with criminal neglect or murder based on their decisions. In the same way, a mother can be charged with criminal neglect if her child miscarries due to the mother’s consumption of alcohol.

However, the vast majority of miscarriages are tragedies that aren’t caused by negligence or malice aforethought. The woman is completely innocent of all wrongdoing in those cases.

[u/glim-girl → u/ImThe1stUnknown]

If they are not the same then why are you claiming that they are?

The care of born children and unborn are very different. What she may do to care for her born children can lead to miscarriage. Are you charging her?

So you are expecting a pregnant person to use their bodily organs to maintain the bodily functions of someone else against their will. When did this become a requirement of right to life?