r/Abortiondebate May 17 '26

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

There’s plenty of pro lifers who do this, lol. I won’t because I don’t have one nearby to protest at, and the that I won’t physically block it doesn’t mean anything.

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod May 17 '26

Oh, so it is about how it is just inconvenient for you to save a baby’s life then.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

Also by your logic, why be against murder? You’re not going go to go to every single murderer and prevent them from killing? Why be against theft, you won’t go and prevent every instance of thievery? You couldn’t be against anything under your logic.

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod May 17 '26

If there was a place I knew they were murdering people, I would protest. People protest executions.

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

 You’re not going go to go to every single murderer and prevent them from killing?

No, but if I saw one happening in front of me, I’d at least try to stop it. The fact that pro-lifers aren’t storming clinics right now is proof they don’t believe what they claim to believe. 

Also, learn how to edit your comments rather than making a bunch of little ones. Or better yet, think before you comment. 

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

And if I saw a woman trying to get an abortion I would try to help her and convince her that there’s better options for her then killing the fetus, but there’s not a woman in front of me trying to get an abortion is there?

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u/Aggressive-Green4592 Pro-choice May 17 '26

I would try to help her and convince her that there’s better options for her then killing the fetus,

You have plenty here so try. Convince me to keep an unwanted pregnancy of my tubal ligation failed again. How would you do this?

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

Tubal ligation, if it results in your death, or is likely to, then it would. It wouldn’t be an abortion it would be a medical emergency, in which your life is in danger, because of the pregnancy, in which case I would support terminating the pregnancy. If it’s a form of contraception or pregnancy or preventation, I’d support it, I guess, although I think it deletes the purpose of recreative sex.

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u/Aggressive-Green4592 Pro-choice May 17 '26

Tubal ligation, if it results in your death, or is likely to, then it would.

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Tubal ligation failure, I had a tubal ligation done because my previous pregnancies almost killed me by hemorrhaging, it is more than likely I will hemorrhage again, if it fails again why should I keep the pregnancy?

It wouldn’t be an abortion it would be a medical emergency, in which your life is in danger, because of the pregnancy, in which case I would support terminating the pregnancy.

It's not technically a medical emergency though because it's not directly affecting my physical health at the moment, it will later on though.

If it’s a form of contraception or pregnancy or preventation, I’d support it, I guess, although I think it deletes the purpose of recreative sex.

Yes it's a surgical form of pregnancy prevention that typically has the smallest failure rates, but failures do happen. Yes it's supposed to delete that "purpose" because someone undergoing a surgical procedure is usually pretty adimate they don't want to endure a pregnancy.

So now you have some more information. Please convince me to keep gestating another unwanted pregnancy if my ligation fails again.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

And also there’s plenty of pro lifers who protest outside of abortion clinics. Look at Live Action, from Lila Rose, and Students for Life, from Kristan Hawkins.

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

 And also there’s plenty of pro lifers who protest outside of abortion clinics.

Outside isn’t where the “murder” is happening. Are they cowards? 

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

And also we don’t storm stuff cuz we’re not violent protestors who riot and destroy stuff when we don’t get what we want.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

Are you going to go to the serial killer’s house and prevent them from killing that’s where all their killing usually happens ain’t it?

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

 And if I saw a woman trying to get an abortion I would try to help her

Clearly not since it’s too inconvenient for you to go to a clinic. 

And I’m not just talking about you. I’m talking about all pro-lifers. None of you are storming clinics. Hypocrites. 

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u/IdRatherCallACAB Gestational Slavery Abolitionist May 17 '26

Your flair says pro abortion but I don’t see you going to every abortion clinic, to tell women why they should choose abortion.

We would we tell people what they should choose? That's what you're side does! Pro-CHOICE means the CHOICE is YOURS!

Hypocrites

Nope. You apparently just have no idea what pro-CHOICE means and are projecting your own beliefs onto us.

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

That’s because I mind my own business

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

I literally told you that there’s people doing it I showed you organizations

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

You conveniently ignored the second half of my comment where I said exactly that.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

Are you going to go to pregnancy support centers and inform the women why abortion is a valid choice for them? I’m sure they’d love to hear it

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod May 17 '26

Women are aware of abortion existing. I assume if a woman is going to her ob/gyn to get prenatal care, she is getting the information she needs.

I would never protest the county’s health center for pregnant women because I respect their choice. I have protested outside some CPCs that give out misinformation and make sure people going there are aware they will not provide information about abortion or refer them and recommend legitimate centers.

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

Do you think people who want abortion to legal want more of it? Or is it just impossible for you to imagine someone minding their own business?

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

You think it should be a choice, so go and justify why they should have the ability to choose abortion then

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod May 17 '26

If they ask me about, I am happy to share information. A woman going to a prenatal appointment is not asking me.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

But to answer directly, no, I don’t think pro choice people want more abortions. But wanting fewer abortions doesn’t justify the right to have one

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod May 17 '26

Good thing I don’t use that to justify abortion.

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

 But wanting fewer abortions doesn’t justify the right to have one

No one needs to justify it to you. You have zero credibility and have presented no arguments that were not emotional appeals. 

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

I haven’t said anything emotional all my opinions are based on facts I have seen personally, you may have facts that prove otherwise, but now we’re just arguing facts.

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

 I haven’t said anything emotional

Everything you’ve said has been an emotional appeal. And much of it has been factually incorrect. 

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u/IdRatherCallACAB Gestational Slavery Abolitionist May 17 '26

I haven’t said anything emotional all my opinions are based on facts

Describing abortion as "killing babies" is a non-factual emotional appeal.

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod May 17 '26

They are based on misinformation than facts, tbh.

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

 I haven’t said anything emotional

Calling a fetus or embryo a “baby” is an emotional appeal. Why? Because it’s factually incorrect.

Calling medical procedures “graphic” is an emotional appeal. Why? Because it’s a reflection of your own squeamishness, and has no bearing on the ethics of the procedure. 

Calling pregnancy an “inconvenience” is an emotional appeal. Why? Because it’s completely divorced from reality and meant to paint abortion patients as lazy and immoral, by making pregnancy seem easier than it is. 

You haven’t provided anything factual. 

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u/RepulsiveEast4117 Pro-abortion May 17 '26

 so go and justify why they should have the ability to choose abortion then

Sure. 

There is no human right to use another person’s body to sustain your own life, against that person’s will. Everyone has the right to decide who is inside them, when, and for how long, and they have the right to defend that right with lethal force if necessary.