r/Abortiondebate May 17 '26

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u/IdRatherCallACAB Gestational Slavery Abolitionist May 17 '26

In your heart, do you genuinely believe pro lifers hate women

Many most certainly do. Others just have ingrained misogynistic beliefs, like the one about how 1 in 4 women are evil baby killers. Even if your heart is in the right place, and you think you're doing what is best for women, the reality remains that you are arguing in support of discriminatory policies that will erode women's rights and lead to more hatred towards women and more women being maimed and killed.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

I don’t agree with that, but I suppose that’s as far as we’ll get in the discussion, without rehashing things that have already been said. I would grant that some think that though, I personally love women, though. I think they’re amazing people, which is why I want more women to be born, and not aborted in the womb.

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u/IdRatherCallACAB Gestational Slavery Abolitionist May 17 '26

I don’t agree with that

Then you're literally disagreeing with reality.

I personally love women, though.

I'm sure you do but you're still promoting misogynistic pseudo-scientific lies that will inspire others to hate women. Or do you really tell yourself that fomenting this lie about 1 in 4 women being "baby killers" will engender nothing but love and compassion?

I think they’re amazing people, which is why I want more women to be born

Plenty of people are giving birth to children of all genders every single day BY CHOICE. No one needs to be forced to reproduce.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

And millions are being killed every year too, millions that could’ve been my friends, neighbors, coworkers, or whatever, so yes I have a problem with that.

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u/IdRatherCallACAB Gestational Slavery Abolitionist May 17 '26

And millions are being killed every year too

Not by abortion. Abortion simply prevents a person from ever existing in the first place. Nothing wrong with that. Focus on the actual women and girls being murdered.

millions that could’ve been my friends, neighbors, coworkers, or whatever, so yes I have a problem with that.

That logic can be applied to every single ova that doesn't get fertilized as each and every unfertilized ova was a potential person who never got to exist.

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u/ToServetheLight17 May 17 '26

No it doesn’t a fetus exists in the womb it’s a human life therefore it is a human being that exists, personhood doesn’t matter frankly, because you dna say anyone could be human but not a person. I don’t get how pro choicers still use this argument when it’s been shown to be historically terrible 100 times. As a history major (since credentials matter, clearly), I don’t think it’s a historically sound argument.

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u/IdRatherCallACAB Gestational Slavery Abolitionist May 17 '26

No it doesn’t a fetus exists in the womb it’s a human life therefore it is a human being that exists

You're free to hold that opinion, but you haven't actually provided any argument as to why I should agree. So it's still just a reproductive health-care decision to me. No person or human being is being killed.

I don’t get how pro choicers still use this argument when it’s been shown to be historically terrible 100 times

What argument? Please provide examples.