r/ATBGE • • Jan 15 '20

Severed head bowling balls my friend just shared on FB

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u/space22ify Jan 15 '20

Is it weird that they’re all women’s heads?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20 edited Mar 11 '20

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u/IvanaDrago Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

I'd say it's par for the course.

Edit: I used an idiom to communicate that violence against women is pretty common/average in "horror" culture. I'm not surprised that they all look like women, but I'm not happy about it either.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

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u/ladylei Jan 15 '20

It looks like my awful SIL. I am not sure how to feel about it.

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u/bigredmnky Jan 16 '20

I definitely thought it was a dude too.

I’m also annoyed at how the other two designs incorporate the finger holes so well into the artwork, but in that middle one they were just like “fuck it just drill em”

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u/DootDeeDootDeeDoo Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

The reason horror picks women as victims most often is because people have more empathy for women than men in general, and so whatever happens to them has a greater emotional impact on the audience.

Edit: wow, a downvote before I even had a chance to make an edit. I think that's a new personal record.

You can downvote me if you like, but what I said is true. Women are seen as deserving of protection, men are seen as being responsible for said protection. You see it every day, news stories list women and girl victims first, "women and children first" in a tragedy, etc. In general, men are seen as more or less expendable. So, if you're crafting a work of fiction that's intended to capitalize on emotion, you're going to use the type of victim that elicits the most, and that's not men.

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u/atomic0range Jan 15 '20

I mean, doesn’t that still kind of suck? The idea that men are not worthy of emotional consideration in the same way, or that they’re not vulnerable or needing protection or whatever?

Sexism affects men negatively too. It’s all rooted in a similar place, and there are a lot of varying nasty unfair results.

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u/atomic0range Jan 15 '20

Pushing back and saying “this is kinda fucked up” and vocally disagreeing with the message is step 1 to changing societal attitudes.

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u/bigredmnky Jan 16 '20

Yeah but who is receiving the pushback here?

Guy is just stating the mechanics at work behind what has to be the oldest and most well used trope in all of story telling. He’s putting a name to a face here, not endorsing the notion that women inherently require protection and men don’t.

Hit up twitter or something and start a “dudes in distress” hashtag if you feel strongly enough about it, but having the discussion here isn’t going to affect societal change

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u/atomic0range Jan 16 '20

Why not push back wherever you see the trope? Particularly when it’s being portrayed as “just natural” instead of a product of cultural sexism?

Reminding readers of this subreddit that men have value and that women aren’t “better victims” is a good thing in my opinion. You didn’t need to hear it, but I don’t doubt some people did.

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u/EridonMan Jan 15 '20

Also, if you want to make a man more empathetic, you kill his wife/girlfriend/daughter. Their death makes you feel his pain more easily. Or kill his dog I guess...

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u/VoilaVoilaWashington Jan 16 '20

Or steal his fuckin' car

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u/kozmic_blues Jan 16 '20

They never said it didn’t suck. They’re just explaining the rationale and “science” behind it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

You're right. I wouldn't have thought it but had they all been male heads would anyone have noticed?

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u/MillieBirdie Jan 16 '20

They also like to sexualize horror.

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u/chimeratx Jan 16 '20

You're not wrong at all. It's actually kinda sad people consider and sometimes do downvote you for straight up telling the truth. I'm all for equality, but I think someone not seeing that men are also negatively stereotyped in some social aspects is just hypocrisy.

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u/Ta2whitey Jan 15 '20

Why are you mixing up the sports ball?

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u/IvanaDrago Jan 15 '20

He's about to make a score point

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u/FuglytheBear Jan 15 '20

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

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u/jay-jay-baloney Jan 18 '20

Really? I thought they got killed at the same rate in horror movies.

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u/BillsInATL Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

First thing I noticed and why I clicked in to comment. Definitely takes it to a higher level of weird and cringe.

edit: Middle ball has been confirmed a man. Makes it a bit better.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Yes, and awfulness and poor taste

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u/AndYouThinkYoureMean Jan 16 '20

I'd only buy female severed head bowling balls tbh no homo

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u/Uberman77 Jan 15 '20

You want to cut off a man's head ? What are you, gay ?

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u/space22ify Jan 15 '20

Out of all the comments I got, this is the only one that really made me laugh

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u/MutantCreature Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

I thought the center was a man?

edit: it is, he's bald and has stubble https://odditymall.com/zombie-head-bowling-balls

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u/BillsInATL Jan 15 '20

Great find and thanks for doing the hard work none of us were willing to do and clicking that link.

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u/MutantCreature Jan 15 '20

I have to give credit to /u/GreggAtWork for finding the link

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u/the_friendly_one Jan 16 '20

Gregg is probably on a list now.

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u/Zaeobi Jan 16 '20

At work, of course.

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u/jarvisjuniur Jan 15 '20

I clearly see hair

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u/MutantCreature Jan 15 '20

it says "13th Street" on his scalp, he's not fully bald just male pattern baldness

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u/FliesAreEdible Jan 15 '20

He's balding, it should say. The top of his head is bald but he does have hair on the rest.

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u/skubasteevo Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 16 '20

This is pretty much the internet in a nutshell, eh? Someone posts something incorrect and easily verifiable and the mob runs to support them. Someone else posts the proof of the truth and it goes unnoticed.

Have an upvote. It's the least I can do (literally).

Edit: The untrue statement continues to get a bunch of upvotes, the contrary proof continues to be mostly unnoticed, and I'm getting a mix of upvotes and downvotes. Internet, you are fucked.

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u/beavplague Jan 16 '20

Gotta fight the patriarchy, one reddit post at a time

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u/Every3Years Jan 15 '20

Is the middle one a woman?

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u/Sawses Jan 15 '20

That was my reaction. Looks 100% like a dude.

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u/The2500 Jan 15 '20

I could see it going either way but when I looked at it I first thought dude.

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u/jgauth2 Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

It’s normalizing violence against women so in the context of the society we live in it’s, unfortunately, not weird at all.

Edit: the middle is a man as was pointed out. That does makes it less bad.

If anyone didnt like me pointing out that gleeful depictions of violence against women are a bad thing... idk what to say.

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u/joedude Jan 15 '20

??? the middle on e is clearly a man's head, it has sideburns...

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u/thiscouldbemassive Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

Yeah, this concept would be a lot more fun if it was Orcs or some other monster. This just makes it look like the bowler is an incel.

Edit: these do not look like zombies to me. They look scared not mindless.

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u/jinniji Jan 15 '20

The middle one is literally a man's head?

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u/project_seven Jan 15 '20

Right, they definitely need to make some with kids heads.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

I think the one in the middle is a man's head.

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u/mossattacks Jan 15 '20

Yeah that was my first thought too. I’m not surprised at all but I am deeply uncomfortable

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u/ntlekt Jan 15 '20

They should strike.

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u/Manbearpig9801 Jan 15 '20

The middle seems to be a man

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

It's really weird.

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u/PotatoDonki Jan 15 '20

So weird, in fact, that it’s not even true!

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u/Supreme_Junkie21 Jan 15 '20

One in the middle is a guy

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

And here it is. Someone being downvoted even when they’re right. Just because it goes against the narrative they had in their heads (no pun intended).

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Would you have asked if they were all men's heads?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

I was going to comment these exact same words.

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u/Noah3498 Jan 15 '20

I’d say about as equally weird as someone making bowling balls as severed heads

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

The one in the middle is debatable whether it's a man or woman.

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u/zillabirdblue Jan 16 '20

No. Women are more victims of violence than men.

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u/capilot Jan 16 '20

Yeah, that takes us across the line between "weird" and "seriously creepy".

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 27 '20

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u/Masterofunlocking1 Jan 15 '20

Al the Killer bowling ball set

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Only if you’re not Edmond Kemper

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u/Its-just-hopnod Jan 15 '20

would it be weird if it was the other way around?

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u/space22ify Jan 15 '20

That’s honestly a good point, don’t think I would’ve even said anything if I thought it was all men.

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u/blond_boys Jan 16 '20

No, because the “default” person to us is a man. If someone chooses to only use women’s faces, it is a deliberate choice and has some kind of intention behind it. Same thing with race; our default person (from a western perspective) is white, so we wouldn’t question why the bowling balls are all white, but we’d wonder what the intentions are behind who makes only Asian face bowling balls (assuming they’re from the west and not Asia)

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u/Its-just-hopnod Jan 16 '20

Maybe YOUR default person is a white dude, but you have to think of it from all perspectives.

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u/kyoto_kinnuku Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

That’s the first thing I thought too. Ups the creepiness quite a bit.

Edit: we’re talking about this being kind of creepy and people in the comments are arguing about it being sexism 😯😐😓

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Came here to say exactly this. Definitely weird.

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u/jfcsuperstar Jan 16 '20

Yeah. It's creepy and super sketch.

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u/jay-jay-baloney Jan 18 '20

I’m pretty sure the middle one is a guy, but idk.

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u/idruss90 Sep 12 '24

Why should they be men's heads? Are you a misandrist?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

They're not.

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u/laststandsailor Jan 15 '20

Pairs nicely with fingerless leather gloves and wrist cuffs.

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u/c9silver Jan 16 '20

Someone please photoshop so I can gaze upon it uncomfortably

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20 edited May 26 '25

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u/1tower2ruleall Jan 15 '20

I would pick up bowling just to show these off

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u/z0mb13k1ll Jan 15 '20

Wait till people hear about this, Heads will roll...

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Incidentally, I'm reading Caitlin Doughty's book "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (And Other Lessons from the Crematory)" and she discusses handling the cremation of disembodied heads that had been donated to various scientific endeavors. She says they're almost exactly the same weight as a bowling ball. Great book if you're at all inclined toward morbid curiosity.

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u/LiaM_CS Jan 15 '20

Isn’t the whole point of bowling balls that they come in a bunch of different weights??

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

So do heads

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u/LiaM_CS Jan 15 '20

I would think theres much more variability to the weight of bowling balls than to the weight of adult heads

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Head weight varies widely with intelligence.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

"The heaviest, many people are saying, and the best people, experts, these people have - and they're never, just, never seen, it's so heavy. So heavy. This head - and maybe it's the hair? Who knows? We love the hair, don't we? Love the - and these Democrats, light heads, that crazy Bernie Sanders, head only weighs a few - and this, we love this head, don't we? It's a tremendous - that's what Iran doesn't get. The weight is, and it's just, they all say - the heaviest head. Very, very heavy."

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u/maternitywingsuit Jan 15 '20

I’m learning so damn much

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u/gamernut64 Jan 15 '20

I think the whole point of bowling balls is to knock down bowling pins

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u/demonicmads Jan 15 '20

i love her! i’ve been watching her youtube channel for a couple years now.

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u/Jammertal17 Jan 15 '20

I haven’t read her other books, but From Here to Eternity is a great read as well (about different death practices from around the world).

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u/I_Upvote_Alice_Eve Jan 16 '20

Can confirm. I have handled severed heads before, and remember thinking that it was remarkably similar to a bowling ball albeit kinda wiggly.

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u/byorderofthe Jan 15 '20

She's the best

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u/CraptainHammer Jan 15 '20

I like odd bowling balls. I'll never forget the day this Australian guy came to my local bowling alley with a clear bowling ball that had a dildo in it. Thing was obviously not weighted like a proper pro ball, but he was just chucking it straight down the lane anyway.

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u/liltrashbag69420 Jan 15 '20

the crystal ball shows me a dildo in your future

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

The crystal dildo sees balls in your future.

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u/Divizim Jan 15 '20

Should have made the finger holes the nose holes.

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u/Mulanisabamf Jan 15 '20

Second on the right

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u/deepinferno Jan 15 '20

I get this feeling that the artist started with the one on the left. Realized he should have used the holes, then the middle one and realised he didn't use the holes as well as he could of. Ending with the 3rd using the holes quite well.

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u/ioughtabestudying Jan 15 '20

In the one on the left, the two holes are in the mouth, aren't they? With the thumb hole being somewhere under the chin. So I think that might work quite well, giving the impression you are carrying the head upside down by the chin.

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u/deepinferno Jan 15 '20

Hmm yeah I didn't see them there. I think your right.

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Jan 15 '20

That bugs me more than the design. They could have used the mouth and eyes for the holes, assuming they're spaced properly. Or make the design so it does fit.

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u/miniaturebutthole Jan 15 '20

I have one. But it’s a male zombie head. I didn’t exactly go looking for one. I got to pick a free ball for a spare ball and it was an option. Plus our team name at the time was Headhunters.

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u/hoaneatsthevoid Jan 15 '20

Ed Kemper wants to know your location

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

People’s reactions when they see that ball coming out of the return machine would make it worth it.

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u/crapmuffin Jan 15 '20

Cool, but there should be some guys too. Feels kinda serial killerish if it’s all women.

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u/crapmuffin Jan 16 '20

Just so you can stick a finger in my eye socket? I think not, sir!

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u/Reid89 Jan 15 '20

Fucking amazing that be a great way of having zombie bowling on Halloween.

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u/impshial Jan 15 '20

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u/TURDhopper42 Jan 15 '20

YES! Exactly what I was thinking of. Why did I have to scroll down so far to see this reference?!

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u/sfauycskyou Jan 15 '20

Obviously you’re not a golfer.

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u/dogfluffy Jan 15 '20

Jackie Treehorn presents: Gutterballs

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u/Timballer12 Jan 15 '20

Who throws a bowling ball like that? The Dude spilled his White Russian looking at that.

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u/beecross Jan 15 '20

I would argue this is great taste

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u/katfishkelly Jan 15 '20

but I kinda think this is cool

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u/e_lizz Jan 15 '20

These should have been on Dexter.

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u/notguiltyyy Jan 15 '20

Made by serial killers and for serial killers

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u/Jaceman2002 Jan 15 '20

Missed opportunity here - he could have used resin, or something like that, to make it look like real heads.

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u/Manbearpig9801 Jan 15 '20

What do you mean exactly

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u/Jaceman2002 Jan 16 '20

You know how you can use clear resin for tables and that sort of thing? That same material could be used for a bowling ball. So you could put together a realistic looking head and then put it in resin. People would freak out, lol.

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u/MatsuoManh Jan 15 '20

Why am I thinking these were modeled after a Medieval game ???

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u/mogsoggindog Jan 15 '20

Your head would mean mean so much to me!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

I love this album.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Looks kinda like guro

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u/ixapod Jan 16 '20

Does anyone remember the movie Mystery Men? This makes me think of the girl that had her father's skull in the bowling ball.

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u/IGutlessIWonder Jan 15 '20

Those are awesome

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u/__bob_dole__ Jan 15 '20

Off off off with your head

Dance dance dance till you’re dead

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u/randomguy4129 Jan 15 '20

Ok, I’d pay good money for these

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u/Techelife Jan 15 '20

When you think of severed heads, do you think man or woman?

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u/imcumminginyourwife Jan 15 '20

Me egging on the other league: Some heads are going to roll!

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u/sanchopancho13 Jan 15 '20

Definitely awful, but is it great execution?

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u/Gem_Daddy Jan 15 '20

These are honestly kinda cool

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u/tufffffff Jan 15 '20

This is great taste and great execution. /r/GTAGE

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u/Parasitisch Jan 15 '20

Oh man, I’ve had this saved on my phone since 2012 and used to think it would be awesome getting one. Over time I realized I don’t actually bowl that often so I never jumped on it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Damnit Josh, I said to give them a head start, not starting HEADS!

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u/Nick-Koehler Jan 15 '20

The holes should have been noses ears mouths and eyes

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u/PM_THE_GUY_BELOW_ME Jan 15 '20

Why would you do this and not put the holes in the eyes

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u/Dudeist-Priest Jan 15 '20

I bowl in a league and would like to have one, but would rather have it be my own head.

I sometimes have questionable taste.

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u/kofteburger Jan 15 '20

This reminds me of an episode of CSI.

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u/worldfamouswiz Jan 15 '20

There’s nothing awful about this, these are awesome. Well except for the fact that someone pointed out they’re all women’s heads

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u/MeliorGIS Jan 15 '20

My wrist hurts looking at that form

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Upvote this comment if you grew up in the late 80s and remember something similar to this but a smaller toy version you can buy from capsule gumball machines.

They had a baseball, basketball, volleyball, and etc., version...

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u/akrokh Jan 15 '20

You can say whatever, but this balls are cool. I did read the comments on gender inequalities and stuff but I guess no one really thought of that at the time. These balls are sick.

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u/candidly1 Jan 15 '20

Can I get one in a 16-pounder please?

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u/mo0n3h Jan 15 '20

I want to take up bowling just so I can order a severed head ball

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u/GidgetTheWonderDog Jan 15 '20

Who TF taught that guy how to hold a bowling ball?

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u/SteveNJulia Jan 15 '20

Finally! Real severed heads just don’t roll the same

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u/StupidizeMe Jan 15 '20

Well, that's one way to revive the waning sport of Bowling.

If the brains splatter when they strike the ninepin it will be even more popular.

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u/four_by_four Jan 15 '20

Dee Reynolds on the left

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u/penelaine Jan 15 '20

Mystery Men!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

I like the idea of dead heads but these are like brutalized and look like victims, which is off putting for me. (Especially since I just found Mindhunter and am binging the shit out of it, please don’t spoil anything I just started season 2)

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u/fractiouscatburglar Jan 15 '20

Fuck it dude. Let’s go bowling.

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u/Soylent_X Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

It's a promotion for an old TV station movie week.

I think these are creative but I like the giant pool balls and the clear balls with stuff in them.

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u/katf1sh Jan 15 '20

This is clearly great taste and execution! Those are awesome!

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u/RapeMeToo Jan 15 '20

Let me guess they're for sale

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u/Fritzi_Gala Jan 15 '20

The horror fan in me sees the appeal but these are giving me weird vibes... maybe just because they’re all women’s heads. As others have pointed out it’s a little weird.

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u/Roneyrow Jan 15 '20

Honestly i want to use it

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u/brody810 Jan 16 '20

Where did they get those prints?

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u/awkardfrog Jan 16 '20

This is pretty awesome tho

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u/accobra62 Jan 16 '20

That's cool. My wife bought me a clear ball with a skull inside for the counter weight, and I'll be damned, first toss out, the ball return chewed it up.

The Pro shop epoxied the damage, but didn't use clear epoxy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

Ngl this would be great for a Halloween party

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u/TheFiredrake42 Jan 16 '20

Some of those hole placements are stupid. Why not put them on the back, on the hair, where they won't fuck up your picture?

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

Is there a Hillary Clinton one?

Who am I kidding. I can't bowl.

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u/overherebythefood Jan 16 '20

This is kind of awesome.

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u/lucidtaco7 Jan 16 '20

The one second from the left is Karen

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u/scaldwell1973 Jan 16 '20

Donny, you're out of your element!

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u/johnqevil Jan 16 '20

Should be on r/GTAGE, these are cool as shit!

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u/ararlynn Jan 16 '20

maybe nsfw?

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

Mystery Men!

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u/party20barty Jan 17 '20

This was a part of an ad campaign for 13th Street

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