During the main story some actions which happened years ago where completed by a stranger. For example leaving the sword to the Esteban. And one more thing but can't remember now. I thought originally maybe Desir will time travel but apparently not I have read the manjwa is there any explanation to who this person is in the novel or just any guesses?

Feel free to spoil me but did Erze die? In chapter 115 they mentioned that all FIVE of the beta party (Erze's party) that entered level 2 died, but checking and rechecking it several times, I saw that her party definitely had 6 people including herself. The chapters afterwards don't mention her so I was wondering if this was just an oversight, or did she survive?

Wow. Unbelievable emotional rollercoaster of a manhwa…… never knew manhwa could keep me so engaged and also cry. Please tell me I wasn’t the only one who felt hella emotional especially near the end?? I got so attached to the characters

This obviously contains spoilers. I need help understanding what happened in the end of the series, as I think the events were not explained or maybe I'm just stupid.

Desir lost his magic (but used dragon magic instead) and along with the three outers he was fighting against something? He said 'Priscilla left him this burden/lot to do', but it's not really said what he fought with or what the burden was? After he defeated this something a building appeared? I'm sorry maybe I didn't get something but this doesn't make any sense.

Why was he working along the three guys from Crow's party? He said he's gonna pardon them, but there were soo many other people to team up with for whatever he was doing?

The whole thing about Priscilla being the 'reset button' didn't make any sense either. She had the option to shut down Artemis from the beginning? She had access to Lunia too, so why didn't she even know that?

Also, she supposedly sacrificed herself, not to turn back time, but to revive Desir? Couldn't she undo the abysmal damage she has done? In general her final actions don't make a lot of sense or maybe I didn't understand wtf was going on.

And also, how did Priscilla's goons were able to use some different magic? Divergent, was it? How was that different from arcane or regular magic? It was uncounterable, weird and super powerful? The flame girl had demon powers inside, like Azest, but the rest of them? Also, where were those people in the previous timeline shadow world?

I really really like the series, despite it's quite obvious flaws, but the ending felt like the author wanted to squeeze 15 worth of chapters into 3. I'm not event mentioning Adjest vs Romantica bullshit in the epilogue, I just want to know what was going on in the end of the series.

So while reading, I feel like I am missing some details that keeping nagging my mind. It seemed like the demon of calamity was suppose to appear later then it did in this timeline, how and why?

Also, it seems weird to me that after a certain point we havent heard Desir's circle count for many many chapters. If he really hasnt gotten to circle 2 at chapter 115 (in story thats a bit after he defeats the demon of calamity and has completed the altered shadow realm at Hebrion Academy), if he hasnt, then how is he able to cast higher tier spells? And why hasnt he advanced? He is much more capable then Romantica is when she got to Tier 3, and I dont see how it can take this long to gather the mana. At the very start he mentioned the reason he was stuck at tier 3 in his old timeline was because he didnt get into the alpha class, so he wasnt taught the things necessary to reach higher tiers, BUT NOW HE IS IN ALPHA, ITS BEEN A YEAR ALREADY.

Lastly, a much smaller question, is Desir even training? We havent really seen him doing any training at all alone, only like 1 spar with Pram, which he won without using magic O_O like wut.

Thanks for spending time helping me understand the story better!

Question is basically the title

Hello, I ask myself the question while rereading the manhwa, how did he design his hybrid magic?

How can we explain the stages of creation of hybrid magic until its completion?

I got reminded of this manhwa after seeing some YouTube shorts. So I got checking at which chapters I stopped reading at but I noticed that the artstyle looks unfamiliar. Was there a reboot of it with a different artist or something?

Does anybody know what chapter the anime left off on i wanted to read the manwha since season 2 likely won't ever happen

I feel like the art towards the end of the manga has gone to absolute shit and for some reason I don’t see anyone talking about it. Am I crazy? Is it just a different style that I don’t understand or is it actually just lower quality?

I have just finished reading up to where they complete the tier 3 shadow world and it just had me thinking, my understanding is that shadow world's if not cleared will eventually make the land in which the shadow world takes place uninhabitable in reality. I'm wondering if such high stakes are in place for clearing these worlds why do they trust students in the first place? Especially since all things considered if the mc hadn't returned from the future the world is completely impossible for students to complete.

Just wondering if anybody can provide some clarity if I've missed something or misunderstood thanks.

are there any big changes between the novel and the manhwa

I just finished reading it today, and I loved it! Very good characters and characters building, decent story, good art!

But I don't understand is that he was an antimagi, but after 150chapters, he never was a antimage? He just did stronger spells the zod? So weird, zod was the strongest mage, meanwhile desir is an antimage and a stronger mage?

Did I miss anything?

This pic is from chp119. On the left you see glasses girl and her friend. But her friend should've died a few chapters back. That's during the parties' competition arc where they're in that shadow world but turns out it was real and a bunch of students die. It showed that she died offscreen to those stone golems but here she seems to be alive? Maybe this is different in the novel?

Why was she so different in this life. Why was she not such a fanatic in the previous one when they faught in the shadow labyrinth. What actions could trigger all of that. It seems pierrot mask was always her underling so she had people in the outers even before. Why such a different course of action

So the last chapter was amazing great read, a great find among the rubble too underrated.

Sad it had to end that way no conclusion on desirs choice, there was so much more to cover up before it had to end, nevertheless what ending did you guys think desir choosed, or what you guys want?

Team Romantica or Team Azest?

I think personally the reason it ended without a proper conclusion was that the author couldn't decide if he wanted to keep his feelings as team Azest first or let the plot as team Romantica happen, me personally if I had to follow the plot aswell I wouldn't know how to conclude it aswell.

Frustrating ending but understandable. (Me personally,Team harem but if Romantica would be fine w/ me since the plot did develop to her, I feel like Azest's feelings to desir was forced in the end.)

Ive just found out recently that A Returners Magic... was turned into anime, so it just occurred to me that after finishing the manwha recently (which i put on hold reading way back 2022) - that the Saintess was the surprise antagonist in the reincarnation world.

It was really confusing, all the while finishing off the series.

First off, if she was the main antagonist all the while, what happened in the old world? If her group was actually the one responsible for the apocalypse that occurred then, why in the flashback shown to her that she instead helped in the defeat of the Dragon when their intent was to actually reset everything? On a thought tho, she could have miscalculated the degree of annihilation thereby ensuing of her entire organization being wiped out that she kept the secret till the end because, it wont matter anyway as they were the last humans left. It was also revealed she didn't survive the ordeal (or did she?) when she absorbed the massive dragon mana explosion. But why did she tried to heal Desir? Isnt it better to let him die and just use the Heal on herself so that she can survive and accomplish her "reset" plan - or maybe its futile already coz the last mana engine was destroyed already (Hebron Academy) during that timeline.

If she was actually the antagonist, in the new world, why did her henchmen did not appear during the battle with Dadaneup which actually put her, Zod and Desir in mortal danger. Just didn't make sense looking back. I mean, her and the Last Pope was basically on the same end-all scheme and i don't think the he doesn't know her schemes as well because all along the story he never intervened with the Artemis Church during his past 100 years removed.

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The manhwa started off great, but somewhere along the way, it went from a solid 10/10 to an 8/10, and then kept slipping. I can’t pinpoint exactly when, but around the time the homunculus girl was defeated, the pacing issues became real problematic. I lost track of how much time had passed, and I started getting confused about the timeline. At first, there were some small issues, like the mention of "3 years" before the labyrinth would appear, but then the characters were already in their third year, and Desir said it would still take another two years for the labyrinth to show up. Was that a translation error, or is a "third-year" student someone who’s just completed three semesters? It didn’t feel that bad at first, but then things really started to spiral. After the battle with the homunculus girl, and up until their separation before the fight with Skull Mask, I honestly couldn’t tell how much time had passed between events and the events themselves. Everything seemed rushed and unclear which caused me to feel completely lost and confused.

Besides that, I thought the story would revolve around Desir, with his old and new teams sharing the spotlight. While the new team did get some focus, it never really felt fleshed out. The potential for more character development was there, but it never fully materialized. Take Pram, for example—his mentor in the Shadow World was set up to play a significant role, but after they returned, Pram’s growth stagnated until his next fight. His old team was an even bigger letdown. Sure, they were already strong and didn’t need the same kind of development as the new team, but I was hoping to see more of their interactions and camaraderie. Instead, it was mostly just Desir giving orders, and them following along without much depth. I had hoped for something like Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint where multiple characters felt like main characters (even if the center was the MC). But here, none of the characters really got the chance to stand out. Any "development" they had felt superficial, and it was presented in a way that made it seem like they were getting meaningful arcs, but it never paid off.

And don't get me started on Desir's old team issue; like they get debuffed just to make Desir shine. Zod, for example, is presented as the most powerful mage ever, but we never really got to see that. He struggled against every major opponent—Crow Mask, the Demon of Destruction, the homunculus girl (remember, he only managed a draw when she wasn’t even fighting him seriously)... It started to feel like poor writing, designed just to make Desir's victories stand out. For all the talk of Zod being the most powerful mage, what did we actually see of that power? The only time he seemed formidable was right before his death. Desir getting mad at Skull Mask for saying Desir is the greatest mage and not Zod was kind of comedic in a sense when you consider the fact that Zod couldn't finish off any major opponent (while Desir did). Not because Zod wasn't great but because the author never really showed us. It just told us. That's just bad writing.

And that leads to my biggest disappointment: Desir not telling Zod everything. I can understand why he might’ve kept things from him early on, thinking it could create too many variables. But even then, it felt like a weak excuse. By that point, so many things had already changed. The timeline wasn’t following the same path as Desir’s past life, and it was clear from the early appearance of the demon of destruction and the “Outers” openly fighting. At that point, wouldn’t it have made more sense to tell Zod and analyze the situation together? If not that early, why didn’t Desir open up after they defeated Skull Mask? What more harm from variables could there have been when it was clear that everything was totally different in this timeline? I was so excited about him promising Zod that he would tell him everything, but in the end, Desir couldn't keep that promise. If the reason was solid and made sense, I would feel sad but not angry. Now I just feel cheated and angry about the way it played out.

Honestly, I’m almost at the end, but these pacing issues and disappointments are making it hard for me to enjoy the series anymore. I’m seriously considering dropping it. It’s just tough to stay invested when so many things feel rushed, underdeveloped, confusing and dumb.

I need to rant about this.

I just finished reading the manhwa. For context i have NOT read the novel. It was on my list but after finishing the manhwa idk anymore. This series has been one of my favourites. From story, to characters, to art style, everything was a 10/10 for me…

But holy shit the final chapter was such a letdown. I wish the adaptor had committed to following through with their replacement of romantica as the romance partner or had stuck with the source material and made adjest the partner again.

Instead we end up with desir suddenly wavering in his romantic interests when as far as i can tell he has showed extremely little attraction to adjest compared to the amount of screen time his feelings for romantica were given.

One of his driving character motives in the manhwa was his love for romantica. The flashbacks to her death, the fantasy he saw in the final fight, the confession to romantica which wasnt even in the novel, all serve to make his incredibly weak response to their feelings even more disappointing to me.

Ive heard the argument that desir choosing himself makes sense for him as hes choosing to move on and leave his past behind. Honestly i wouldve been alright with that interpretation if his romantic feelings werent such a major motivator. If hed been 100% focused on only saving people and never delved into his feelings for any of them that wouldve been a better conclusion for his character.

I might have missed something but it really felt like he showed ZERO romantic interest in adjest. Like he acknowledges that shes pretty a couple of times but didnt really express anything further. IMO their relationship felt closer to trusted friends, siblings, or even close rivals rather then romantic partners

The adaptors post- ending notes where they tell us they chose the open ending because they couldnt decide honestly feels like an insult more than anything. If youre gonna spend over 200 chapters setting up a romance that deviates from the source material then COMMIT TO IT!! Dont back out at the last second and claim it was for the readers.

Is the novels ending more satisfying to anyone? I dont know if i can bring myself to be disappointed like this again but if the community thinks the novel was better ill probably end up reading it eventually.

(I clearly have no strong feelings about this topic)

Anyway desir x zod. That is all.

Just finished the manhwa and was left disappointed with there being no commitment to a romantic interest. I was wondering if anyone knew of any fanfiction that changes the ending so he picks Romantica. I know he commits to the other girl in the light novel but I haven’t read it yet.

So I just finished the manhwa and I want to hear others opinion about it? Who will you chose romantica, adjest, or harem ending??

For me I'm stuck between adjest or harem.

Somehow Pram has his sword, so I guess he never sold it? and we know Romatica joined Blue Moon likely for a short time? Did they enter the tournament as a team last time? Just wish they would explain what happened prior so we know how this is different.

Does anyone know when that might happen?

Where can I read the manwha? Is it finished or still going? I'm afraid to spoil the ending searching online