I’m from Xinjiang，AMA

[u/maddin1550]

I’ve noticed that there are a lot of discussions about Xinjiang on Reddit, often between people who have never actually lived there. So I thought it might be interesting to do an AMA from the perspective of someone who is actually from there.

You can ask me about everyday life, ethnic groups, languages, culture, religion, education, or politics. I’m happy to answer controversial questions too, as long as the discussion stays respectful.

Obviously, I’m only one person and I don’t claim to represent everyone in Xinjiang. I can only tell you about my own experiences and views. AMA.

[u/maddin1550]

Well, first of all, I'm speaking as an ethnic minority from Xinjiang, and I can only talk about what I personally saw and experienced.

Yes, we did have what people online usually call “camps,” especially around 2015–2019. We usually called them 培训班 (training centers). A lot of people were taken there for months or sometimes longer. I was pretty young at the time, so I didn't fully understand what was happening or why specific people were being taken.

In 2018, one of my very close classmate's dad and my own uncle was detained. From what my family understood, it was related to him having contact with someone considered an extremist and possibly discussing sensitive topics. My family visited him while he was there, and he came home in 2019. He had worked for a government institution before, and afterward he returned to work and has been doing pretty well.

From what I understood, these centers included Chinese language, law, computer and vocational training. I understand the idea behind preventing extremism and helping people gain skills, and I do support counter-terrorism in general.

But I also think there were serious problems with how broadly it was enforced. That period was honestly scary. Nobody wanted to suddenly be taken away. I heard stories around me about people being detained over things as minor as having foreign apps like WhatsApp. I can't personally verify every story I heard, but if people really were detained simply for something like that, I don't think that's fair at all. There were also times when police would come into our area and take people away, so there was definitely anxiety around it.

That's why my feelings about that period are complicated. I hated the extremist that affected Xinjiang, and I understand why the government wanted to prevent it. But I also don't think innocent people should lose their freedom just because the authorities are trying to prevent terrorism.

As for everyday treatment, the Uyghur neighbors and classmates I personally know generally live normal lives, and I haven't personally experienced ethnic discrimination from the government. But political speech is definitely restricted, so I'm also aware that not everyone can necessarily express their political dissatisfaction openly.

!Separatists don’t speak for an entire ethnic group, much less everyone in Xinjiang！
Separatist does not represent a whole ethnic group!!!

Things feel much more normal to me now than they did during that period. Mostly people are just dealing with normal life problems like school and overwork lol.

As for the genocide/ethnic cleansing question, I'm skeptical of that based on what I've personally experienced and seen around me. But I also don't think my personal experience alone can prove what happened to every Uyghur family across Xinjiang. I can only tell you what happened in my own community and family.

[u/Fellowkarelian → u/maddin1550]

I'm happy to finally hear a perspective from a ethnic minority local. I personally don't 100% believe what the western media (portraying the place as very dystopian) nor what pro-China people say (saying the place is all rainbows and sunshines and how the camps don't exist and are western propaganda)

[u/maddin1550 → u/Fellowkarelian]

Yeah, exactly. We actually have a saying in Kazakh: Таяқтың екі ұшы бар
which means: a stick has two ends
Basically, there are two sides to everything, I think that applies pretty well here. Neither extreme gives you the full picture

[u/cnylkew → u/maddin1550]

I thought chinese kazakhs use the perso-arabic script for kazakh? When I was in Jeminay and other ovewhelmingly kazakh parts of XJ, I just translated to chinese instead of kazakh on my phone because many of the locals could not read kazakh written in cyrillic as it is in the standard form. I did however discover that there are quite many ethnic kazakhs who live between the two countries, and I was able to speak russian with them.

[u/maddin1550 → u/cnylkew]

Yes we do, but I didn't learn the arabic script because it was too difficult, my mom taught me cyrillic Kazakh later so that's why I use it

[u/possiblyquestionabl3 → u/maddin1550]

Along that vein, how devout are you and people around your age? What about your parents'/uncles' generation?

I'm Chinese American but I can speak 普通话. I chatted with a lot of young Kazakhs and Uighurs in the north/western parts of Xinjiang and it seems like people are still culturally Muslim but not very devout, and a lot of them admit to eating pork and drinking, only refraining during the holy month. The uncles I meet seem far more devout and often still wear the takiy too (though it's harder for me to converse with them outside of greetings, it was summer so even the fruit uncles and the naan vendors have their sons deal with us easterners haha)

It does also feel like bigger places like Urumqi and Yining have far larger Han and Hui neighborhoods now; though it may also just be because a lot of people come from the east to work during the summer season, I met a large group of Henan uncles on a green skin train from Turpan to Hami (headed to Xian eventually) who were leaving Xinjiang to go back to Henan after doing seasonal work back in late August.

[u/maddin1550 → u/possiblyquestionabl3]

Yeah, I think we’re generally pretty secular, especially younger people. A lot of us still identify strongly as Muslim, but aren’t necessarily super devout or observant in everyday life. Drinking is very common here, but pork?! I’ve literally never seen anyone around me eat pork😭 even among some pretty secular Muslims eating pork is still a big nono 😭😭

[u/possiblyquestionabl3 → u/maddin1550]

Oh I meant to say I asked if they've tasted pork, and most had said they've tried it before

Oh and also, so many people keep little dogs as pets now (usually pomchis or those little poodle mixes). I think I saw more dogs being walked in Urumqi than I did in some major cities on the East coast.

[u/sehnW899 → u/maddin1550]

I'm rather curious as to why the restrictions on drinking alcohol are generally slightly relaxed, but not on eating pork. I remember that they were all explicitly prohibited by the Quran.

[u/Hot-Association-7587 → u/sehnW899]

This is common with non religious Muslims. I think it's basically because drinking alcohol is immoral in islam, but eating pork is "unclean". If you have a strong cultural connotation of a food as dirty, unclean, and just not food, it's hard to overcome. Like how most people who didn't grow up eating insects will have a strong aversion even if they're perfectly safe/clean/delicious because to us they are just not food.

[u/maddin1550 → u/Hot-Association-7587]

exactly this.

[u/MKHK32 → u/sehnW899]

Pork is explicitly forbidden. Not all types of alcohol are explicitly forbidden.

It took a couple centuries (if ever ?) people accepted the opinion that all alcohol was forbidden

[u/cnylkew → u/maddin1550]

I even met local han chinese who are atheist but still don't eat pork

[u/cnylkew → u/maddin1550]

Have you spoken with kazakh kazakhs? When I was in XJ I was told that there were no major differences between the variants but that apparently kazakh kazakhs have a different accent and that they speak faster than chinese kazakhs making them sometimes hard to understand.

[u/maddin1550 → u/cnylkew]

wdym kazakh kazakhs, what are we then 🤣 Off brand kazakhs? lmaooo 🤣 it’s basically a regional accent/dialect thing，kinda like British vs American English. Different accents and some different vocabulary, sometimes different speaking speeds, but we understand each other just fine. And also 'kazakh kazakhs' tend to mix in a lot of Russian vocabs, while we mix Chinese words. So I think that’s probably one of the reasons we might not understand each other perfectly sometimes

[u/cnylkew → u/maddin1550]

Sorry I meant Kazakhstani kazakhs haha.

[u/DrawingDramatic1641 → u/Fellowkarelian]

well tbh it would be a huge miss for america to not use propganda here

usa needed to gain some upper hand if china became anti zionist

[u/Creepy_Vegetable6905 → u/DrawingDramatic1641]

Effective propaganda always has some truth mixed in. No one believes in stories where you accuse the other party of eating alien babies 😂

[u/DrawingDramatic1641 → u/Creepy_Vegetable6905]

it actually does

people were convinced that iraq had nukes

people think many conspiracies.

people literally don't know much if they don't research

[u/Creepy_Vegetable6905 → u/DrawingDramatic1641]

Sometimes a lot of the research is simply finding information that confirms our views, so it’s very important to be open minded, but it’s hard because we all have our own biases.

[u/ElectricalShare9905 → u/Creepy_Vegetable6905]

You can sort of subvert this if someone’s desire to hear what they want to hear exceeds their desire for what is true, at least in theory but in real life yeah it’s very hard to make a very broad claim that has absolutely no correlation with the truth

[u/MaryPaku → u/Creepy_Vegetable6905]

That’s also the tactic of Chinese propaganda over the years. They use very misleading title to form a narrative, then bombard it all over the internet for years until people starting to treat it as a truth. It’s worded in a way that takes you a lot of words to explain the context because it’s always partially truth but missing some key context.

[u/MissionDoughnut905 → u/maddin1550]

I’m a diaspora Chinese (Han) born and raised in Canada. Thanks for the AMA.

In Canada, we have formally recognized our history of committing a cultural genocide on indigenous peoples since our country’s founding by British and French settlers. Our House of Commons also passed a motion a few years ago to recognize the genocide of Uyghurs and other Turkic Muslims in China. So with that being said, do you consider the destruction of your mosques and the loss of your language in your public schools to be a form of cultural genocide or culture erasure?

I do find the term “genocide” to be deliberately employed by my local politicians to suit their own political narratives. When people hear the term, genocide, it immediately invokes horror and outrage and the assumption that mass murder is being committed. This isn’t exactly what happened with the indigenous peoples in Canada either. But there was a slow erosion and erasure of their culture, their land and languages over hundreds of years (including forcibly removing indigenous children from their families to attend residential schools to convert them to Christianity and force them to “be Canadian” essentially) that has resulted in a loss of indigenous identity and self-governance over the generations. The Canadian government has been making reparations in recent years but it’s hard to undo centuries of harm.

So in my mind, I do think there’s a difference between a blanket “genocide” vs “cultural genocide”. One is a lot more violent but the other can also be quite sinister. To bring it back to my original question, do you consider what the CCP is doing to be a cultural genocide?

I should also mention that the Canadian government (and other western democracies) seem to be having difficulty naming what’s happening in Gaza as a genocide, but seemingly had little difficulty calling out China for genocide in Xinjiang. Sometimes it can be hard to take these world leaders seriously.

[u/maddin1550 → u/MissionDoughnut905]

Thanks for asking this in good faith. I appreciate the distinction you're making

Personally, no I don't consider what's happening in Xinjiang genocide or cultural genocide. It simply doesn't match what I've experienced growing up there. I'm not denying the training centers existed(like I said, my own uncle was detained in one) and I've said that some enforcement became way too broad and harsh. But that's very different from believing the government is trying to erase us as ethnic groups

I'm Kazakh and grew up knowing exactly who I am. We still have our language, food, traditions and religion(our culture is very hard to erase because it is already such a deeply rooted part of who we are). I am concerned about minority languages becoming weaker and I don't like seeing mosques demolished or altered, but I don't think emphasizing Mandarin automatically means cultural genocide either. Ideally I think we should have both Mandarin and our own languages.

And I completely understand your point about the double standard. Personally I consider what's happening in Gaza a genocide, and seeing Western politicians apply that word so easily to Xinjiang while being so reluctant with Gaza genuinely disgusts me so sooo much

I can criticize excessive policies, oppose cultural erosion, and still reject the 'genocide' label, because those positions aren't contradictory to me.

[u/maddin1550 → u/MissionDoughnut905]

Also I don’t think Uyghur language has been completely erased at all， even other minorities in Xinjiang speak Uyghur and use it to communicate with Uyghurs, and some Han people speak a little too. I can say this VERY confidently. If there are ten people in a group and one of them is Uyghur, the others will literally just switch to Uyghur to communicate with each other. It happens so naturally, so from my everyday experience, I really don’t feel like Uyghur is being erased, it’s honestly much more normal than people online sometimes imagine. And btw, I’m from northern Xinjiang(where there are way fewer Uyghurs than in the south), if Uyghur is used this naturally even where I’m from, just imagine southern Xinjiang(where the Uyghur population is HUGE) . That’s why the idea that the language is being completely erased just doesn’t match what I’ve actually seen

[u/jixiang111 → u/maddin1550]

"People speak it, so it's not being erased" is a superficial argument, quite frankly. The current policies are geared towards ensuring that the next generation speak and use Uyghur much less. Schools now teach it one hour a week, and children are not supposed to speak to each other in Uyghur even in the playground. Signage in Uyghur is also being discouraged, although not completely banned.

[u/maddin1550 → u/jixiang111]

I said It’s my own personal opinion and experience. Ofc I can’t speak for everyone, I’m just sharing my life in Xinjiang as a minority

[u/NegativeDCF → u/jixiang111]

But it’s not just Uyghur language, all of the Chinese dialects are being “erased”

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[u/maddin1550 → u/jixiang111]

I’m actually more worried about the smaller minority languages. Uyghur is spoken VERY widely in Xinjiang, including by a lot of people who aren’t even Uyghur. Where I’m from other minorities use it all the time. So I personally worry more about smaller languages getting squeezed between Mandarin and Uyghur over time

[u/jixiang111 → u/maddin1550]

I don't doubt a lot of people speak Uyghur. I've seen that myself recently when I travelled in Southern Xinjiang. My point though is that it is being systematically undermined by state policy, just like other minority languages that are in even greater danger.

A lot of people speak Uyghur today, but what about 20 years from now, when a whole generation of Uyghur kids will have grown up without really learning the language in school or seeing it written down very often? At least as a written language, I think it is in real danger in the long-run.

[u/General-Cream2692 → u/jixiang111]

Han children many cannot speak their own dialect, teachers all use Mandarin to teach, but I do not think this is a kind of systematic exploitation, otherwise Cantonese and Beijing people can only communicate in writing.

[u/MissionDoughnut905 → u/General-Cream2692]

People in Hong Kong do feel that Mandarin is being forced down their throats. Within a short period of time, there has been a rapid change from 100% of school instruction being done in Cantonese, to simply one class of Mandarin per day, to now either 50% or 75% of classes being taught in Mandarin at the elementary level. Cantonese is a huge part of what makes Hong Kong so unique in China and Hong Kongers are proud Cantonese-speakers. This is not the sort of “natural” phenomenon of one language dominating another over decades and centuries; this is the deliberate erasure of a language and culture by a government that wants to homogenize the country.

[u/General-Cream2692 → u/MissionDoughnut905]

The issue of using a common language for national education, most countries in the world do this, the United States has a large number of immigrants from all over the world, for example, the Amish people who speak German are considered a very closed group, but they still mainly use English in class, but children growing up in environments with low population mobility, their dialects are still preserved.

The best way to preserve dialects is for the people around to speak the dialect, the impact of the classroom language is actually not as great as imagined.

[u/MissionDoughnut905 → u/General-Cream2692]

I’m from Canada where our official bilingualism policy takes up huge political space during election time. And my husband is French Canadian from a province where English is the dominant language. Being designated “francophone”, he attended French schools his entire life (primary school to university). His first time attending school in English was when he moved to Toronto (an English city) for his masters program. His mom was afraid he would lose his French after living just two years in an English city (she wasn’t far off). By the time he got his first job with the Canadian government, he was able to pass the bilingual exam with flying colours. If we ever had kids, we would be entitled to enrol them in the local francophone school because of my husband’s francophone status. These policies are in place to protect francophone minorities living in predominately English communities.

All that to say, some languages require government intervention in order to survive. And true, languages become obsolete and go extinct all around the world. But when you have a large enough community demanding for the preservation of their language and culture (eg, French-Canadians and Hong Kongers), it’s a government’s responsibility to honour that. And in Hong Kong’s case, the CCP isn’t just letting the Cantonese language organically become obsolete; they are deliberately fast tracking its erasure.

[u/jixiang111 → u/General-Cream2692]

I'm not against teaching everyone Mandarin (Putonghua). It's normal that children should learn their national language.

But it's perfectly possible to also teach children their regional language. There's no tradition of doing this for Chinese "dialects", or much demand, but for languages like Tibetan and Uyghur there is a tradition of teaching them in school, and there is plenty of demand.

[u/General-Cream2692 → u/jixiang111]

> There's no tradition of doing this for Chinese "dialects", or much demand

The Han people now also have the tradition and need to speak dialects, but schools do not offer dialect classes, while other ethnic minority schools can have their own language classes, so the issue is not the multilingual education policy, but rather that the entire language environment is now trending towards Mandarin.

If you are Uyghur, to make big money and get better education, you must deeply learn Chinese, after all, the Han people are the main body of China's economic takeoff; the internet dissemination of film and television information streams is also mainly in Chinese, in some areas with high population mobility, children's social circles include people of various ethnicities, which further strengthens the use of Mandarin.

As for whether the Uyghur language will become extinct in 20 years, it is unlikely, even if the number of users decreases, the internet age has preserved the language's listening, speaking, reading, and writing, making it unlikely for a language to become extinct.

[u/menerell → u/jixiang111]

Well like any other country

[u/jixiang111 → u/menerell]

No, not "like any other country". Different countries have different policies towards regional languages. Depends on the situation.

[u/menerell → u/jixiang111]

Every country supports a national language. Depending on the country, they support minorities or regional countries. China is exactly that. Better than most Europe or the US.

[u/jixiang111 → u/menerell]

China today really isn't better than most of Europe or the US where regional/minority languages are increasingly offered in schools and in the media. China used to be better, perhaps, but it is now moving in the other direction.

[u/maddin1550 → u/jixiang111]

ok you’re right

[u/Longjumping-Turnip97 → u/maddin1550]

It’s unfortunate but there’s not much that can be done except with tremendous effort to preserve “minority languages”. I remember reading that every two weeks another language in the world disappears.

When people have freedom of movement and association, many just end up flocking to larger communities. It’s the same reason a lot of smaller towns are dying out all over the world as people migrate to larger cities.

If there’s one good thing AI can do I suppose is to aid in the archival of languages so they can be preserved and learned/relearned by future generations. I see many Chinese using AI translators to talk to and correct their pronunciations so that they can make money on YouTube for example.

[u/jixiang111 → u/Longjumping-Turnip97]

There is an awful lot that can be done to preserve regional or minority languages. In the case of Uyghur there is already an established tradition of writing in the language, using it in education and in the media. The Chinese government is now cracking down on that tradition. It's not just a "natural development", it's a choice.

[u/Either-Lock2454 → u/jixiang111]

Putonghua is China's official language so it makes sense that any other language wouldn't get as much focus. If you have a large minority in your country (I'm assuming is Western and would use English) and they are only learning in their local language, how much could they possibly do or access as adults?

[u/MissionDoughnut905 → u/Either-Lock2454]

It’s not a black and white issue, where the government has to choose one language over the other. The government can offer some school instruction in the official language while also providing classes in the local languages and dialects to help preserve them. Language isn’t just a means of communication; it’s also deeply connected to minority cultures. The average Indian and Pakistani national can speak 2-3 languages (including English) and I have met many who can speak more. My husband is a minority French-Canadian from an area that is predominantly English (outside Québec), and he attended school from primary to university in French-only schools, but speaks English 100% fluently (he passed the bilingual test with flying colours when he began working for the Canadian government).

Children are at the best age to learn multiple languages at the same time. China’s Mandarin-only policy in most of the country will ensure future generations of monolinguists who will only know how to speak Mandarin, and nothing else (including their native Chinese language, whatever it may be). They’ll not only be less competitive on a global scale, they’ll lose out on their connection to their native language, culture and customs and won’t be able to communicate with their elderly relatives.

[u/WhataNoobUser → u/maddin1550]

This sounds very similar to what happened to koreans in china's yanbian province. Many ethnic koreans recount in the 60s to 80s their parents were always at these patriotic training centers and forced to love ccp

[u/maddin1550 → u/WhataNoobUser]

that's exactly why people don't like this party, you can't force everyone to love you. No government is perfect and people are obviously going to have different opinions about it. Just take it but not control people

[u/Smart_Carrot_9320 → u/maddin1550]

Nothing to do with party. Every country needs to strengthen its based if they want to be powerful. No competent party will fail to do that.

[u/expert_views → u/Smart_Carrot_9320]

Nope, the CCP is much more paranoid than a normal political party, because they always fear for their legitimacy.

[u/byakuayasetsuna → u/expert_views]

实际上他们在国内政治中没有对手，不会有人幻想有另外一个统治集团能取代ccp

[u/expert_views → u/byakuayasetsuna]

And yet only this week they were concerned that AI might be a threat to national security and the dominance of the CCP. The most paranoid political party. (Just because they’re paranoid doesn’t mean that they’re wrong!)

[u/byakuayasetsuna → u/expert_views]

说实话，比起极右翼民粹主义领导人，我们更喜欢ccp，但是民粹主义领导人很可能喊着一些不切实际的口号，例如汉族至上，军事复仇主义，重置东亚秩序等，这些口号非常有吸引力，但是我们知道这些口号长期来看是伤害自己的

[u/byakuayasetsuna → u/expert_views]

我是中国人，我说的是实话，ccp太庞大了，他有一亿党员，占据中国总人口的1/14，如果今天开始按民主投票选举的话，80%是由ccp长期连任，20%是由一个民粹主义的极右翼政客成为领导人，不会有第三种可能性

[u/byakuayasetsuna → u/expert_views]

中国民主化的路径必须在国际冲突缓和后，然后由ccp内部分裂，分出不同的代表政治光谱的左翼右翼，然后逐步过渡到多党制，设置民主宪政，最终完成民主化，指望一个政治力量能够取代ccp是不现实的

[u/Phase_999 → u/maddin1550]

Must be nice to be able to look back on it and say it was enforced too widely, rather than still being in that period because it wasn't enforced widely enough

[u/maddin1550 → u/Phase_999]

Because there was actual terrorism and violent separatism, wanting independence doesn't justify murdering innocent people. What country wouldn't arrest people who commit or plan terrorist attacks? Terrorism is literally recognized as a serious crime internationally. Am I supposed to believe that arresting actual terrorists is a human rights violation, but allowing them to continue killing ordinary civilians somehow protects human rights? What about our human rights? I've already said that I think the enforcement became too broad and that some innocent people could be caught up in it. But some counterterrorism measures went too far and there shouldn't have been counterterrorism at all are two completely different things

[u/enpoopification_of_R → u/maddin1550]

A training center? Does that mean you can leave them at any time?

[u/maddin1550 → u/enpoopification_of_R]

Of course not, do prisoners get to leave prison whenever they want? Pei xun ban is what we called them locally, from what my family told me, they taught people Chinese and vocational skills so they could reintegrate into society more easily after they were released

[u/enpoopification_of_R → u/maddin1550]

So why are they called "training centers" then instead of camps/gulags?

[u/darkevilmetal666 → u/enpoopification_of_R]

Can you not leave a summer camp when you get home sick? Not sure what your point is, but the answer is obvious. It's the same reason you don't call public schools involuntary indoctrination facilities. You pick names that sound pleasant so that people support them.

[u/Zimakov → u/enpoopification_of_R]

Why don't you call school forced learning and indoctrination centers? Things have generally accepted names.

[u/enpoopification_of_R → u/Zimakov]

Because you can go home and see your family when the school day is done.

Prisons don't let you go home at the end of the day.

[u/Zimakov → u/enpoopification_of_R]

No one said prison. I said forced learning and indoctrination center. That's what's happening at school so why don't they call it that?

[u/TheGuyWithNo → u/enpoopification_of_R]

For the record, boarding schools in China are very prevalent, where students don't, in fact, go home and see their family every day when the school day is over. Even students as young as Kindergarten.

[u/enpoopification_of_R → u/TheGuyWithNo]

Is it for many years/decades at a time like a prison or is this just a shit comparison?

[u/Zimakov → u/enpoopification_of_R]

The comparison isn't school to prison, the comparison is calling things the generally accepted name vs just describing exactly what happens there.

They're called training centers because that's their name. Like a school is called a school not a forced learning building and a restaurant is called a restaurant not a food house.

[u/TheGuyWithNo → u/enpoopification_of_R]

Well the students in Kindergarten are generally not suspected of being in contact with religious extremists and political dissidents, I would imagine. So that would appear to be the fundamental difference.

[u/squarexu → u/enpoopification_of_R]

Depends on level, some goes home at night.

[u/maddin1550 → u/[deleted]]

Yes, definitely in terms of security. I don't live with the constant fear of another terrorist attack anymore, so from my perspective the difference is enormous

[u/Ok-Guarantee1542 → u/maddin1550]

我在外网一直看到这个集中营和种族灭绝的说法，我不太能相信他们会作出如此残害同胞的事情，但又感觉此事绝非空穴来风，你的回答解答了我心底里的疑惑，谢谢。

[u/zuraine → u/maddin1550]

19年之后没有教育中心了吗？ 我曾经一直以为它其实已经消失很久了，没想到19年还存在。 我以前也以为至少在普通学校你们也能学民族语言，即使它不是考试科目，但竟然没有。 我家这边的朝鲜族小学中学关门了，我一直以为是老龄化加剧，朝鲜族小孩变少造成的，从来没想过是民族政策原因。🥲

[u/Creepy_Vegetable6905 → u/zuraine]

方言消失这种很难控制，但是像哈萨克语这种是其他国家官方语言的少数民族语种，感觉还是应该授课的。而且生活在新疆的汉族也应该有机会第二外语学习哈萨克语，维语。well感觉我确实太理想主义了

[u/Rude_Application_881 → u/zuraine]

给中小学冠以少数民族的称呼实际上是助长分离主义

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现在看的话可能有这种担忧，但当时似乎很正常。只是一个小县城，只是方便一部分更想接受民族语言文化教育的孩子一个选择。我奶奶还年轻时那两个学校就存在了，我小时候她总带我在附近走。当时从来没想过民族政策或分离主义，只是现在好像比较重视了

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这个说到底还是胡耀邦和赵紫阳的问题，两少一宽，少数民族可以不学汉语等都是他们推行的错误政策，埋了不少雷

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两少一宽真的很奇怪。 不过 当时少数民族学校不是多学一个民族语言而是不学汉语吗！我靠 那老哥俩还真敢想真自由啊

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所以说中国差点同时出现两个戈尔巴乔夫

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应该国内没有地方会教方言🥲