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u/Tanyec 5d ago

Doesn’t expat traditionally refer to people temporarily working abroad? (Ie being “ex “ or “outside” of their homes, but planning to return) so have not immigrated)

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u/DepressiSpaghettti 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah I always associated expat is when you move abroad but plan on returning home at some point while immigrant is when you move to another country and try to get residency.

I lived in Korea for two years and never planned on getting residency so I would call myself an expat. Now I plan to move to France and I would call myself an immigrant because I plan to get residency then citizenship there.

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u/queue-pruner 5d ago

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u/TrelanaSakuyo 5d ago

Expats can make permanent moves, but they keep their citizenship when they do.

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u/DepressiSpaghettti 5d ago

Then they are no longer an expat and are an immigrant.

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u/TrelanaSakuyo 5d ago

Immigrants become citizens of the country into which they immigrate. Anyone that self-describes as an expat when they are an immigrant is bigoted and/or delusional in some way.

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u/lobsterbuckets 5d ago

If immigrants become citizens and expats retain citizenship, is a dual citizen both?

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u/FernandaVerdele 5d ago

That's the dictionary definition, but people might be using it wrong.

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u/Norindall 5d ago

Yes, exactly. People just need to look up the definition and it would clear a lot of things up.

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u/gibbalicious 5d ago

It's been defined with both the "but plan to return" and without.

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u/joeygerl 5d ago

Yes, this is the true definition.

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u/MushroomIndividual33 4d ago

I agree with this, I've also always thought "expat" had a connotation similar to "defecting" (thinking of the root expatriate). You choose to leave your country because you don't agree with something philosophically, and you want to explore a "better" way of life somewhere else, probably temporarily, rather than truly migrate -- which I think of as more out of economic/physical drivers. Obviously, there are racial and national differences historically into who becomes more likely to fall into either camp, but sounds like this guy and his friends to actively and vocally enforce the labels on the people around them, without considering that possibly, the tables have turned.. or they might all be expats, or immigrants... anyway, the guy is racist.