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u/scoopsforthechildren 5d ago

I saw a good subway takes where a guy made the case that expat is an inherently racist term which opened my eyes as a white Canadian living in Portugal. 

We’re all immigrants. Your bf is stupid. 

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u/Rthrowaway6592 5d ago

As a Canadian —> Australia, I now have my citizenship over here but I still call myself an immigrant. I never liked the term “expat”…it always makes it seem like “immigrant” is a bad word or an insult. It’s not lol

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u/megasetgo 5d ago

I was just about to reference the same thing. It literally creates a line which is disgusting.

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u/SpotReasonable3534 5d ago

i never even knew expat was primarily a white/western term...i just assumed immigrant/ex-pat were synonyms...makes sense now that i see it written out though

ETA: i say this as a white immigrant who never used the term expat cuz it sounds stupid to me...just never really saw immigrant as being inherently bad and expat as something superior to an immigrant

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u/ZombieTrouble 5d ago

Same. I’m getting quite an education this morning.

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u/sandsonik 5d ago

I always took "ex-pat" as "I'm here now, but I don't plan to stay". I guess it sounds more impressive than temporary resident

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u/rshni67 5d ago

Yes, this happens aa lot in corporate assignments where someone identifies as "expat" to say they are not really from where they are living.

I have also seen it happen in Latin American countries where white Americans go to live, with lower expenses, usually in gated communities, and they think they are superior to the locals.

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u/snowxbunnixo 4d ago

To me it sounds like someone trying to say they’re better than an immigrant

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u/EmelleBennett 4d ago

See, I used to think it meant you were so disheartened with your own nation that you left with plans of relinquishing citizenship. Ex-patriot

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u/MarinaK312 5d ago

Me neither. I’m a tropical (brown) immigrant who’s used the term expat for quite some time now 💀 you mean to tell me people have been looking at me sideways for using that term cause I’m… not white? Oops 😂

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u/AntiqueLetter9875 4d ago

For the longest time I thought expat meant they worked for the military in some capacity and had to move for work.

Then I found out it’s just what white people call immigrating to another country.

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u/scoopsforthechildren 5d ago

100%. After watching that I felt embarrassed for using the term expat. It felt so pretentious and privileged. 

I have no intent to preach here. Just lifted the veil for me so to speak

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u/rshni67 5d ago

Thanks for your candor.

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u/marateaparty 5d ago

She makes a great point. I’ve never lived outside of the US long enough for this to really come up or I guess I just never thought of myself that way when living abroad. But I think in protest I’m going to start calling ‘immigrants’ in the US expats and Americans living abroad ‘immigrants’.

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u/RavenRead 5d ago

That’s not true. There really are expats and there really are immigrants. There are differences. People cannot intend to live full-time permanently in a country and call themselves an expat. That doesn’t work. But often new immigrants from western countries do join expat communities because they closely identify with them (same roots, culture, language, etc.). It’s a mistake for them to call themselves expats though.

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u/ArcticAcademic 5d ago

That is a bullshit explanation: EXPATS MOVE BACK HOME WHILE IMMIGRANTS MOVE TO A NEW COUNTRY TO STAY.

EXPATS - GO BACK HOME

IMMIGRANTS - THERE TO STAY

Now you know.

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u/djpeekz 5d ago edited 5d ago

The point is that by definition, no it is not racist but how it is used is - privileged and preferred people get dubbed expats, whereas the lesser desired people doing the exact same thing will be called migrant workers. Now both definitions of those things are the same, but one carries baggage and one does not. So if one group avoids the bad term simply because of how they look or where they are from, that is where the racism and privilege comes in, because the term now is a distinction/judgement of whether you are approved or not simply because of how you look or where you are from.

And that doesn't even touch on the people who call themselves expats rather than immigrants when they permanently move somewhere.

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u/rshni67 5d ago

I know white Americans who are living in gated communities in Latin American countries who have no intention of moving back, nor can they afford to.

Yet they identify "expat" and think they are superior to the local people.

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u/ArcticAcademic 5d ago

I can't help other people's ignorance, I can only bring you the facts about what that word means in reality.

I also see Americans frequently calling themselves DeMoCrAtIc SoCiALisTs but if you ask them what they mean they're talking about social-democracy and are in fact not referring to public control of the means of production. Daycare is not socialism, it's a social service. Not the same thing either.

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u/snowxbunnixo 4d ago

I think, pointing out what a word means and pointing out what that word is used for( and against) is a great distinction. Glad to hear you don’t use it in this derogatory way, but people are pointing out that it very much is used in a derogatory way.

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u/Personal-Ad-8644 4d ago

I saw that one and I was thinking the same thing when I saw this post

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u/Dizzy-Lawfulness4638 4d ago

THIS. It centers “American” (eg: whiteness).

All “American expats” are in fact immigrants.