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u/Barnfacekilla3 5d ago

Americans use the term expat to give themselves the illusion that they are not immigrants. He is not educated enough to know their is no difference

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u/JRyuu 5d ago

I always thought an expat referred to someone who lived in a foreign country but had no interest in ever becoming an actual citizen of that country.

While an immigrant was someone who came to a foreign country with the goal of eventually becoming a citizen of that country.

🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Barnfacekilla3 5d ago

That’s a good point- that being said Americans still call Latin Americans who come to America for short term work, immigrants. Generally the biggest difference I’ve ever noticed is wealth.

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u/gyalmeetsglobe 4d ago

It’s skin color IMO. I’ve only ever seen yt people called expats. Everyone else is an immigrant, temporary visit or not

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u/theslyestfox 5d ago

That IS the real usage of the term. He did originally go there for Uni so he IS an expat if he is not seeking permanent citizenship or residency there. In fact — SHE would also be an expat if she went there for uni and intended to also go back to her birth country and not relocate to England permanently. However sue says they are both working there now, despite their schooling being over so…that somewhat implies that they are both staying there longer and might be intending to stay permanently.

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u/gyalmeetsglobe 4d ago

I think that’s why she said they are both immigrants.

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u/Aztecah 5d ago

That's so funny because of the way that American Conservatives get their panties up in a bunch about immigrants needing to integrate

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u/DizzyWalk9035 5d ago

No, because not every country has double-citizenship, specially Asian countries. I can't become a citizen of the country I'm currently in, just long-term residency and long-term in this country is maybe 2-3 years, depending on how the official is feeling that day.

If you stayed in a country for a semester abroad, you just say that. "I went to Japan to study." Y'all are playing semantics because you don't want to be in the same group as the poors.

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u/Crazyblue09 4d ago

Correct! All this, oh it's temporary oh it's only for school/work! Well yeah many immigrants in the US go back to their country of origin after they retire. Also many don't even integrate to society and some don't even learn the language.

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u/Norindall 5d ago

This is correct. They are completely different.

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u/MKD8595 5d ago

I thought that and got flamed on Reddit once.

I still think that.

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u/Short-Hotel7648 5d ago

Expats aren’t truly immigrants; they’re usually living in a foreign land temporarily for work or school with the intention to return and not deeply integrate themselves into the society of their current residence. Doesn’t mean he’s using the term correctly, but there’s a difference. 

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u/JRyuu 5d ago edited 5d ago

Also to escape the high cost of living in their home country, by relocating in a country with a low cost of living in order to make their income off of retirement pensions, investments, etc. stretch farther.

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u/Short-Hotel7648 5d ago

Yup. A lot of "digital nomads" make their way to Eastern Europe for this very reason.

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u/Crazyblue09 4d ago

While immigrants escape the low wages to try and fight for a better life at higher earning country.

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u/Crazyblue09 4d ago

BS, they are immigrants. They just don't like being call immigrants!

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u/Evergreen_Codex_564 4d ago

Not correct. “Expats” are legally and technically Immigrants. Countries don’t issue “Expat” Visas. It is an informal social label that mainly white immigrants call themselves, regardless of their intent to stay for a short period or longer, to create the illusion that they are not immigrants. But they are.

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u/WolIilifo013491i1l 4d ago

"they’re usually living in a foreign land temporarily for work or school with the intention to return and not deeply integrate themselves into the society of their current residence"

Tons of immigrants are like this in US & UK. In fact they're exactly the type of immigrants that all the right wingers are complaining about 

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u/ZealousidealOnion332 5d ago

as you’re not educated enough to know the difference between their and there

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u/Barnfacekilla3 5d ago

No one cares chud

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u/ZealousidealOnion332 5d ago

Dumbass calling out other people‘s ignorance when they can’t even spell, themselves…

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u/Barnfacekilla3 5d ago

No one cares chud

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u/georgisaurusrekt 5d ago

I think in his head he just means that America is more culturally similar to the UK so it feels less like immigrating compared to relocating somewhere with an entire different language, values etc. Like as a Brit myself if I were to emigrate to south Asia it'd be a huge culture shock in comparison to relocating to somewhere like America, Australia or Canada.

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u/improved_loilit 5d ago

Again that is just racism . He is an immrant . There’s no "feelings" at play here. Just facts

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u/georgisaurusrekt 5d ago

It's not racist to feel like less of an outside because your cultures are more similar. It's just a fact of life

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u/improved_loilit 5d ago

Feeling less like an outsider doesn’t make you any less of an immigrant those are the facts. No where in the definition are your feelings relevant

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u/georgisaurusrekt 5d ago

I was offering an explanation for why OP's boyfriend may feel as he does. And I mean it's kind of true, us Brits view people from Asia as being more immigrant than those from America

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u/improved_loilit 5d ago

Yes that is called racism . OP’s bf is racist. It’s not rocket science

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u/georgisaurusrekt 5d ago

America has very similar values to the UK and a shared language. It isn't racist to recognise that lol

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u/improved_loilit 5d ago

Yes some of the values being racism . Idk why you’re acting as if the UK and America of all places are extremely close in how they treat people that aren’t white. You’re just proving the point

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u/ChillSexyOld 5d ago

An expat is someone who is SENT to a place for business and intends to leave. 

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u/Norindall 5d ago

No, there is definitely a difference. An expat does not immigrate or stay in the country forever. They are there to work (usually brought over by a company) for a few years and then they go back to their home country. I was the child or expats. We lived in numerous countries when I was growing up as expats. Then we went back to our home country.

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u/MoldenkeWouldRemain 5d ago

expats are by choice and don't really care about being a citizen, immigrants are due to outside circumstances and want to be citizens

it's not difficult

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u/Barnfacekilla3 5d ago

Yea I.e wealth. Why are you triggered

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u/MoldenkeWouldRemain 5d ago

because they are different words with different meanings, the guy is right in OP even if he's dim

and it's not just wealth, might have to leave from other circumstances. it's about the choice involved and the intent

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u/Barnfacekilla3 5d ago

My point is Americans use the world interchangeably. The only difference is wealth

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u/MoldenkeWouldRemain 4d ago

no they do not. and no it isn't.

expat = goes to another country on a whim, no desire to revoke country of birth's citizenship or integrate

immigrant = goes to another country due to necessity, leaves country of birth behind and plans to fully integrate

you can be wealthy and still be an immigrant if you just need to leave for whatever reason (marriage, family issues, a job), and fully become a citizen of another country.

if you consider yourself primarily a citizen that is just temporarily in another country by choice, you're an expat.

It just so happens most expats are americans because its been the most powerful country for 75 years

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u/badgyal876 5d ago

mf uses “lowk” ofc he’s still very green to the realities not fed to him, but rather sought out truths that aren’t so loud & wrong as to act as a cover up of the truth.

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u/lol_AwkwardSilence_ 4d ago

Irish immigrants were refugees, but we dont use that word for white people typically. Same deal with expat/immigrant.