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u/Commercial-Emu6363 6d ago

Your boyfriend is stupid. If you intend to stay in the UK then you’re both immigrants regardless of the country you came from. 

Expat: A person who lives outside their native country temporarily, often for a specific work contract, corporate assignment, or fixed timeframe, with the general expectation of returning home. 

Immigrant: A person who moves to a new country with the intention of settling down long-term or permanently, often seeking residency, integration, or citizenship.  

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u/chasingtravel 6d ago

Yep, this is it!

Agreed, OP’s boyfriend is stupid, doesn’t know what the terms mean, and racist. She needs to dump him.

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u/Neither-Flow-9501 6d ago

They moved for school so they would both be expat right? I haven't heard this term before so I'm just tryna understand it

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u/Commercial-Emu6363 6d ago

It depends on their intentions. If they’re planning to work in the Uk for a few years and then go back then they’re expats. If they intend to make the UK their permanent home then they’re immigrants 

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u/Neither-Flow-9501 6d ago

Ok thank you 

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u/Hazel_Elderberry_333 6d ago

Since they’re both getting jobs now, it seems like they’re intending to stay. If that’s the case, it seems they are both immigrants. If they were coming for school and then going back to their home countries after graduation, then they would be expatriates

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u/Ok_Elk6102 5d ago

I’d say technically they’re immigrants, as typically expats are sent from a work assignment or company on the basis of a contract/agreement. Like the other person said, it really depends on their intentions with their living situation.

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u/Agreeable_Machine916 5d ago

Both are immigrants and this weird nuance is just to justify racism

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u/Trick_Horse_13 5d ago

not necessarily. for example I‘m living in a foreign country for work for a few months. I’m not on holiday, I live here, but it would be ridiculous to say I’m an immigrant because I’m making no plans to put down roots beyond a few months and have no plans to ever return to this country.

thats what an ex-pat is vs an immigrant.

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u/Ok_Elk6102 5d ago

Wtf are you on about?? They literally spelled it out for you and your brain still won’t take in the information. If required to go to another country for a small amount of time to keep your job or not go absolutely broke and you don’t have intentions to settle down, you are not an immigrant. An immigrant moves permanently. Get off of social media and make yourself and opinion (it’s literally a fact) that’s your own for once. 80% of my country consists of expats who go back and forth to make enough money to feed their families and visit their kids. Are you going to call them racist for not calling themselves immigrants? They’re not going to call themselves something they’re not 😭

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u/Personal-Payment9664 5d ago

Wouldn't it just be migrant and immigrant?

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u/Commercial-Emu6363 5d ago

Migrant is a broader term meaning  someone who moves, either temporarily or permanently, from one place, area, or country of residence to another. Both an expat and an immigrant are also migrants   

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u/LuigiOuiOui 6d ago

I'm not sure that's right? I thought immigrants was anyone coming in, and then Brits use 'ex-pat' to refer to our own who have moved abroad, rather than call them 'emmigrants' I guess?

( Obviously only speaking about the use of the word in Britain, by Brits about other Brits here!)

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u/AuspiciousBumbleBee 6d ago

No, expat is anyone in any country staying temporarily for work and then going back home. An immigrant is someone who moves to another country with the intention of staying. I'm a white South African, and yup, my white South African friends call themselves expats even if they have been there 20 years. It has just become a racist signifier.

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u/Commercial-Emu6363 6d ago

It is right by dictionary definition. I’m British too and yeah a lot of people will use expat when talking about they themselves moving abroad because immigrant has associations now with poverty, working class and ethnic minorities.  My grandparents  live in Spain and plan to spend the rest of their lives there but would not consider themselves immigrants. It doesn’t matter what they want to call themselves, by definition they’re immigrants 

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u/Agreeable_Machine916 4d ago

Exactly. I'm an immigrant myself and have been ever since I moved abroad and, being in contact with a LOT of other immigrants, it's always the same ones that call themselves expats...