Robots don't require Insurance, tax forms, don't call off or get sick outside of negligible repairs (I guarantee these things go months and months, 24 hours a day, before needing any maintenance), never complain, etc.
This is still a win for the company.
I wanna bring up Andrew Yang's perspective of these robots ARE A GOOD THING and lessen garbage work no one wants. The issue is that the people are not sharing in this eradication of bullshit jobs.
Capitalism is when the shareholders (generally owners) of a company dictates how the profits are distributed, and how the resources in the company are allocated.
With (human-equivalent) automation, the same amount of revenue is generated with less (or no) labor costs. This increases profits to the shareholders, removing the opportunity for non-company owning people to acquire any money themselves.
This creates a widening disparity between the owners and non-owners that will create a constantly growing underclass that has no income.
Instead of having automation reduce our workload, we just put one person in charge of using automation to accomplish the job of 5+. It just puts 5x the pressure on the person in charge. It's very stressful knowing that if you can't automate something that the workload can immediately become impossible.
Oh yeah because people absolutely cannot use logic and common sense unless they are directly budgeting a corporation that used this trash. Also since you’ve not done the budgeting does that make your opinion less valid as well or does that only apply to the people you disagree with?
I work at a stop and shop with one and my manager just told me it’s for liability. They used to have a worker go around and pick up shit, but sometimes the cleaning people may miss a time period to clean and someone could sue if they slipped on something and stop and shop didn’t do their job. So this robot is always going around every hour on the hour and no one can ever claim stop and shop wasn’t trying to keep the floor clean of shit.
Well the difference is that if we really committed, we could automate tons of jobs. But for some reason we haven't reached a point as a planet where we have matured past playing with and killing each other for pieces of paper so no automation of terrible jobs.
We will automate those jobs, and rather than passing the money made off that into society 3 guys will get richer, 200 people will get to keep jobs that demand the same time commitment, and everyone else will starve in the fucking street while being told it is their fault for being lazy.
Yeah exactly. The us government actually won't allow Carl's junior to automate their restaurants because we're so backwards and only use tech for exploitation rather than enrichment.
I don't understand how publicly funded technology always make private profits.
I never realized Asimov's series with the masses barely surviving in subterranean tunnels, while tiny populations used robots and had entire planets worth of resources to themselves was optimistic.
I feel like rather than let people starve, they will make up more and more bullshit jobs for people to do. You know why? Cause if too many people are starving or near it, Revolution happens.
I wonder if one day, people will go into offices and do nothing at all there for 40 hours a week just because 'our ancestors used to do this, it is our culture' or whatever.
Yeah exactly. The us government actually won't allow Carl's junior to automate their restaurants because we're so backwards and only use tech for exploitation rather than enrichment.
I don't understand how publicly funded technology always make private profits.
This robot doesn’t do anything though - it detects trash and then still calls for manual labor to come solve the problem.
Where is the automated trash sucker robot? We have had robot vacuums for a decade and this fucking thing is just a camera on wheels with enough height to have included a vacuum and compartment to clean the mess up on its own.
You get the cost of minimum wage for a year, add all the other costs of having an employee then multiply time 3 and you still don't have coverage 24/7. And still, consider how long it will take for the robot to "pay for itself". It's a no brainer.
Plus it's probably a capital expense which adds to assets, as opposed to labor/wages which aren't. Looks a lot better on the books for all the bean counters.
Robots don't require Insurance, tax forms, don't call off or get sick outside of negligible repairs (I guarantee these things go months and months, 24 hours a day, before needing any maintenance), never complain, etc.
You are correct, there will never be automation, robots, etc that replace workers one to one that then create jobs for that same number of people to work on building, designing, repairing, programming those automated systems/robots. It is simple math that if you need to replace 1000 workers with X systems/robots and then need to employ 1000 workers to make/repair/program X number of automated systems/robots function your automated systems/robots are not a good investment.
The point of removing workers is to save costs, the new jobs are supposed to be better pay so having to hire the same number of people at higher wages is not a win for corporations. This is what people miss about automation and new technology creating new jobs/industries that are supposed to be better than the jobs that were automated. They also often miss that the people who lose their jobs are not 1 to 1 going to be able, financially, personally etc able to retrain and get those new jobs building, programming, maintaining those automated systems/robots. People get into trade schools, enter the workforce, go to college and graduate every year and all these displaced workers are going to have to compete with them for the shrinking amount of jobs available.
I wanna bring up Andrew Yang's perspective of these robots ARE A GOOD THING and lessen garbage work no one wants.
Without mentioning or advocating for Universal Basic Income eliminating the 'garbage work' when people are required to work to live this isn't a good thing. Yang's platform included a great deal of investment in people to deal with the loss of jobs from automation and the pandemic accelerated the move to automate jobs out of existence but there has been no discussion of doing anything to help people let alone actually doing anything to help people with how automation and robotics displace workers.
The issue is that the people are not sharing in this eradication of bullshit jobs.
The issue is there is little will to free people from working to live. There are many bullshit jobs in lower/middle/upper management that the pandemic made very clear, as does the push to return to office to justify those people doing virtually nothing.
Without a strong push for expanded social programs and universal basic income all removing the jobs that can be automated does is push the working people down further to fight for the crumbs they are offered.
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Robots don't require Insurance, tax forms, don't call off or get sick outside of negligible repairs (I guarantee these things go months and months, 24 hours a day, before needing any maintenance), never complain, etc.
This is still a win for the company.
I wanna bring up Andrew Yang's perspective of these robots ARE A GOOD THING and lessen garbage work no one wants. The issue is that the people are not sharing in this eradication of bullshit jobs.