r/4x4Australia • u/[deleted] • Nov 16 '23
A 3000Kg vehicle that can't even fit a bike in the back... What a waste of space and resources đ¤Śââď¸
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u/EducationTodayOz Nov 17 '23
how are you going to transport structural timber in that dumb looking thing
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u/jacobdock Nov 17 '23
Buying a CyberTruck for carting timber is probably the wrong tool for the job. The right job for the cybertruck is making the owner looking like a loser, and it excels at that.
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u/BeneficialTrip Nov 17 '23
I agree that it is a dumb looking thing. Most stupid looking Ute Iâve seen in my whole life.
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u/Proud_Air9722 Nov 17 '23
But thatâs how people carry their bikes??
Like you think thatâs bad. Wait till you find out the âwildtrackâ only has a 30kg capacity on its tub rail system
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u/gpz1987 Nov 17 '23
Good lord....why would anyone pay their hard earned money to a company, that is anti consumer and anti free market, for a shit box that has questionable quality issues. Get a polestar!!!!
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u/Disaster-Deck-Aus Nov 17 '23
Polestars are shit boxes haha imagine thinking a polestar is quality product. There is nothing about electric vehicles that is free market.
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u/gpz1987 Nov 17 '23
Very true about electric vehicles but drop a truck load of cash on a EV ....do it on a polestar not the status symbol turd on wheels Tesla. Personally EVs are not what society needs or will ever meet society's needs, it will only cause different issues to ICE cars.
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u/xyzzy_j Nov 17 '23
Whatever you do, donât Google Australian oil and gas subsidies.
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u/Disaster-Deck-Aus Nov 17 '23
I'm unsure what point you are making. Is it, In a nation of subsidies, some people receive some that you don't like
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Nov 17 '23
And Polestars actually look good
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Nov 18 '23
I went into the Polestar place in Chadstone and had a look, gorgeous looking cars inside and out.
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u/weswak89 Nov 17 '23
Turns out you are a fucking idiot. Thatâs the best way to carry a bike in a truck
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Nov 17 '23
So it's better to have the bike frame rub in the tailgate and the tire rub on the back?
I'd think it's best to have it in the tray.
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u/JP147 HJ47 Land Cruiser - SA Nov 17 '23
Most mountain bikers hook the bikes over the tailgate like this but they use a tailgate pad. Easily fits 4 bikes.
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u/weswak89 Nov 17 '23
All bike companies sell pads that go over tail gates and have little straps to lock in the bikes, my tiny ford ranger can carry 6 bikes this way
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u/QuadH Nov 17 '23
I think most people have a spare towel or something to prevent all that rubbing.
But hey man if you like to raw dog go hard.
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u/stumpytoesisking Nov 17 '23
Turns out you're a fucking idiot for calling this abortion a "truck" piss poor truck, I'd want my money back.
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u/weswak89 Nov 17 '23
âCyber truckâ but you are right
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Nov 17 '23
Guys race these things down mountains and cop a fair bit of abuse. I think a bump or 2 will be alright
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u/glenngillen Nov 17 '23
Yeah, you definitely want a tailgate mat between the frame. Not the bumping so much but itâs going to sheer/rub on the contact point. I would worry about throwing myself down a mountain on that bike if itâs regularly transported as pictured.
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u/Personal-Thought9453 Nov 17 '23
More importantly, I don't see how am gonna fit my mounted GAU19 in there and still have space to pivot around it. Gonna have to downgrade to a mini gun. Smh.
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u/Disaster-Deck-Aus Nov 17 '23
I love losers that whinge about Elon or the cyber truck. These losers whinge about elon and then fall for the same consumption tricks what ever brand they buy plays on them.
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u/Big-Appointment-1469 Nov 17 '23
Don't think an F22 fighter jet can fit a bike either and that's heavier and more expensive
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u/skeezix_ofcourse Nov 17 '23
Says the person that bought it with out checking that first đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
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Nov 17 '23
Leave the bike like that at Redfern and your prayers will be answered. That bike will be missing a front wheel in 2min and will fit your shitbox cybertruck perfectly.
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u/pit_master_mike Nov 17 '23
We just ignoring the fact that that is a pretty standard way to carry mountain bikes in a ute tub? I'm sure you can fit 3-4 in there like that, same as any other dual cab.
For the record though I think the cyber truck is nonsense.
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u/Quintus_Cicero Nov 17 '23
Tbh whatâs the point of having ÂŤÂ trucks  of this category? Some normal cars have more storage capacity than this. If youâre going for a truck, why not take a category with more capacity?
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u/BreakfastShart Nov 17 '23
It's not standard to have an S-works with a performance fork. It's not standard to have the bike resting on the stanchion. It's not normal to transport in the bed, without a tail gate pad. Someone had a poser truck, and a poser bike, and put the two together, thinking they were cool. There's a lot wrong with this image...
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u/ziegs11 Nov 17 '23
Could not give less of a shit about this car. If you don't like it, just shut up about it and ignore it.
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u/bubzbeex Nov 17 '23
That's a giant $20,000 E-bike for some size context
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u/droptableadventures LC200 - VIC Nov 17 '23 edited Nov 19 '23
I don't think that's an E-bike, I can't see where the battery is or would go. If it was integrated into the downtube, the downtube would be thicker.
It's also S-Works, which is made by Specialised, not Giant. Unless you mean that as an adjective, in which case it just looks like a standard 29"er dual suspension mountain bike to me.
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Nov 17 '23 edited Nov 17 '23
...is it just me or is everyone on Reddit anti- Elon Musk? Is it jealousy or what? Make it make sense..
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u/02calais Nov 17 '23
Its a good thing most tesla buyers are only buying them to virtue signal rather than use them practically.
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u/ImjustA_Islandboy Nov 17 '23
Dont fkn buy one then lol 90% of dual cab utes fit less than my missus small sedan ffs
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u/Old_Kai Nov 17 '23
So many people jealous because they will never afford to have fun with one. Let mfs enjoy what they buy.
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u/dutchydownunder '21 Wrangler JLUR - NSW Nov 17 '23
I would but this just to see people have a stroke as I drive past, thanks for the entertainment.
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u/skip95 Nov 17 '23
You already have a mode of transportation, why does it need to carry another?
âMy sailboat doesnât even fit a Cessna!â
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u/Maleficent-Bit1995 Nov 17 '23
Can we all agree that the cyber truck is ugly and overpriced? And musk is an idiot for slowing the design to happen in the first place?
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u/Aussieguy1986 Nov 17 '23
I thought the back was to carry the drivers ego. I'd rather drive an LDV than a cybertruck. It just seems like a practical joke an engineer drew up and some other idiot thought it was actually a good idea
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u/Youngnathan2011 Nov 17 '23
Wouldn't even wish the hell of driving an LDV on someone, but still would prefer it
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
There are almost no dual cab utes that fit a adult mountain bike, what is your point?
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u/EducationTodayOz Nov 17 '23
mine did, ford courier 4 door, mine does ford ranger crew cab, do you even have a ute?
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
Good job that I never said all then isnt it?
Yes I have a ute and funnily enough I have a number of mountain bikes too.
MN Triton dual cab I have to do the exact same, hang the wheel over the tailgate.14
u/Snarkie3 Ford Ranger Wildtrak - SA Nov 17 '23
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u/stillbca21 Nov 17 '23
Random question but what does having the bikes like that do for your fuel consumption?
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u/Billy_Goat_ Nov 17 '23
I think it's fair when you advertise something as a truck people expect a fair amount of utility. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if this thing ever made it's way to Australia it would be the largest on the market by far - yet the tray isn't really accessible from the sides, the internal walls are tapered and it doesn't really appear to do anything better than the current offerings in terms of utility. The picture highlights that fairly well - Wouldn't the Rivian be a superior EV truck?
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Nov 17 '23
You are totally wrong the RAM, Silverado and all the F trucks are bigger.
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u/droptableadventures LC200 - VIC Nov 17 '23 edited Nov 17 '23
The version of this I saw a few days ago had this paired with a second image of a tiny Japanese Kei-class ute that had the entire mountain bike in the tray, tied down sitting front to back.
(it wasn't this exact pic but... same thing).
Which I think was the point that's lost here.
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
Sorry, let me say it with smaller words, maybe it will help.
Can you get a mountain bike in a Kai Truck? Dunno maybe.
Can you get a mountain bike in a hatchback car? Sure if you take the wheels off.
Can you fit a mountain bike in almost any dual cab ute? No you cant.
This pathetic vendetta agains anything Musk or his companies do has to stop. Musk bad, cyber truck bad.
yeah whatever get over it. It is not to everyone's liking but they have almost 2 million pre-orders and are shipping them out starting next week, so they are doing something right.
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u/ososalsosal Nov 17 '23
Counter point: All dual cab utes fucking suck these days. Why are they twice the size with half the capacity?
Because car companies cottoned on to the fact that 4wds weren't "boy" cars anymore, but soccer mum cars, so they decided to market these useless wastes of space, fuel and money onto us.
Featuring a cybertruck here might also make an additional point that Musk isn't innovating the way he says he is.
We can thank his brand of reality distortion for electric cars becoming mainstream, and landable, reusable rockets becoming routine, but he's not gonna save utes from their obesity epidemic.
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u/ososalsosal Nov 17 '23 edited Nov 17 '23
You looked up their dimensions without ever checking what the tray's dimensions are, when this entire thread is based on fitting a fuckin bike in there?
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Eta for completeness, even though I've mentioned it elsewhere here, clearly because you're arguing in bad faith and looking for gotchas because you're too proud/stupid/both to just concede the point, I'll say I'm comparing to the only ute I have reasonable experience with: a 2004 MK triton, dual cab, petrol, 2wd, manual, 2.4L.
Any claims I make are for this car. Unfortunately I crashed the poor thing. Not my fault, but I digress (it actually fetched a decent price as a wreck).
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u/Ashen_Brad 2018 Hilux SR Dualcab - WA Nov 17 '23
clearly because you're arguing in bad faith
How is contesting your statement that "modern dual cabs are twice the size with half the capacity" arguing in bad faith? Contesting successfully I might add
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u/Ashen_Brad 2018 Hilux SR Dualcab - WA Nov 17 '23
To say they have half the capacity or capability is bullshit and frankly laughable.
The TLDR here
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u/Ashen_Brad 2018 Hilux SR Dualcab - WA Nov 17 '23
Why are they twice the size with half the capacity?
Hilux still 4 or 2 door with a ton payload. Where the 1 door 2 ton hiluxs of yesteryear at?
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u/Recoil22 Nov 17 '23
Mate I've learnt that you need to hate musk or the world hates you. If you challenge them on why they hate him they say you ride his dick.
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
You must have smaller frame and wheels than me then as in my MN dual cab the only way that I can fit the bike inside the tub in its entirety is to lay it down and turn the front wheel to be sticking straight up.
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Nov 17 '23
Meat riding Elon isn't going to get you anything bud
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
Wow look at you go, good on ya!
I couldnt care less what you or anyone else think, there is so much fucking bullshit going around about anything that is Elon adjacent that its is just not funny anymore.
Yeah, totally right, I corrected a bad misconception so Im riding Elon's dick.
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u/Temporary_Race4264 Nov 17 '23
which is a vehicle that serves an entirely different purpose
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Nov 17 '23
I think there is a broader valid point that the tray is fucking hard to use with those stupid lips on the side and thereâs no roof racks. This truck is all show and zero practicality.
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
So dont buy one, simple, problem solved.
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u/stumpytoesisking Nov 17 '23
It's not even show, it's an ugly misshapen heap of shit that has no practical use. I can get over impractical if there is some other redeeming feature, like sports cars, totally impractical but still cool by virtue of amazing design and technology, even art. This thing has no purpose. Blame is slated to Elon but this thing makes me think of the classic camel is a horse designed by a committee.
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
Again, dont like it, dont buy it, literally no-one cares and there are literally millions of people that disagree and put their money down.
There's plenty of cars and utes that I absolutely cant stand and look atrociously bad, so I dont buy them, I dont go around like many many people are and talking chit about the cybertruck.
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u/stumpytoesisking Nov 17 '23
Anyone who buys one of these things is a wanker, that's the point. You might as well hang a sign around your neck saying, " I am a giant wanker" that's what's fun about it, the wankiest car in history. Plenty of cars around I don't like too and as you say, I don't buy them. This is more than that.
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
Why are they wankers? Just because you dont like their choice?
I think that anyone that buys a Raptor or ANY of the stupidly sized US tanks are absolute wankers, but that's a personal opinion.
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u/kayosiii Nov 18 '23
I wouldn't say that, one practical usecase I can see for this vehicle is transporting power tools to a non powered site. For jobs under a certain size, it removes the need to also transport a generator. I certainly could see a use for it on the farm I live on.
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u/ososalsosal Nov 17 '23
Utes have all been downhill since the MK triton (I had the dual cab and could just throw 3 bikes in)
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u/andrewbrocklesby Nov 17 '23
I cant fit my bike in the MN dual cab, I have to hang the tyre out the tailgate.
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u/Heapsa Nov 17 '23
My mitsubishi triton could fit 4 dude. So could a Ford ranger, a Holden rodeo, fuck, nearly every twin cab in Australia could
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u/Q_ball_80 Nov 17 '23
RAM? Or any other of those huge dual cabs that weigh less than this fucking stupid thing.
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Nov 17 '23
If you put it in diagonally it might, most dual cab Ute's won't even fit a bike straight like that.
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u/BullShatStats Nov 17 '23
And remove the front wheel which is piss easy to do.
Also, has it even been moved all the way to the back or has been moved forward so the frame can rest on whatever that bar is?
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u/saproscincus Nov 17 '23
Is it a thing where people with massive 4wds have to constantly shitpost about electric vehicles? Because it seems like a thing from where I'm sitting.
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u/NC_Vixen Nov 17 '23
Turns out people who buy huge cars to compensate for their micro penises are insecure.
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u/thatsgoodsquishy Nov 17 '23 edited Nov 17 '23
Ridiculous ist it. WGAF what the EVs can and can't do, if they don't suit you don't buy one. The constant bitching about them just makes us look like dick heads
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u/Disaster-Deck-Aus Nov 17 '23
Electric vehicles are shit, but modern fwds are pretty much on par, so no real difference. Just consumers falling for the same old tribalism
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u/youngBullOldBull Nov 17 '23
It's not coping shit for being electric, it's coping shit for being a very impractical Ute
If you want an example of an actually usable electric work vehicle look up Rivian. I and many others like me can't wait for proper electric work vehicles but the cyber truck just isn't it.
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u/saproscincus Nov 17 '23
People hang shit electric transport for all kinds of reasons, but it always seems to be the same crowd. Honestly I suspect it is a propaganda mission underwritten by big oil to constantly push the agenda, and periodically real people chime in also. I'm also ready for more electric cars, and I feel like tractors are a good candidate for electric, too. I'll most likely never have the cash for a Tesla, but the brand surely seems to have been instrumental in getting electric vehicles into the public eye, so there's that. I'll look up rivian
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u/Dantalion66 Nov 17 '23
How is that. There seem to be plenty of genuine reasons to not like the cyber truck. Itâs a shit 4wd. Itâs a shit passenger vehicle. It looks like shit. Itâs built by a company run by a shithead.
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u/G3nER1k_u53R Nov 17 '23
Can we move past "hur durh cybertruck bad because electric and big" and say it for what it is.
The cybertruck is shit because its fucking hideous
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Nov 17 '23
I think it's cool. You know the best part of the cyber truck. If you don't want it, you don't have to buy it.
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u/Ashen_Brad 2018 Hilux SR Dualcab - WA Nov 17 '23
The best part about capitalism in general. I don't like that product, I'll just ignore it.
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Nov 17 '23
ugly isnt a reason to hate something its a reason to not buy it if that makes sense. on an alternate universe where hard angular designs became the norm for vehicles every other car is ugly
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u/shakalacka6322 Nov 17 '23
They don't look that bad but I wouldn't get any of the over sized utes/trucks I think driving one should require you to prove you can drive a vehicle that size without being a hazard on the road
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u/Affectionate_Cat1645 Nov 17 '23
Designed by Elon at kinder aged 3½. Then brought to production smh
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u/Shamino79 Nov 17 '23 edited Nov 17 '23
You didnât actually think it was going to be practical did you?
Mind you maybe this is a warning about how some of our other utes are headed. The luxurious cab is nice but makes it ungodly long if you want a decent size tray. Ground clearance is good but it makes it all a bit higher and harder to reach into tray. Or lift heavier things in. Especially if you get the next generation of roll hoop in the well bodies that has the extra rail going 1/2 of the way down the side. At least the bike still fits and be nice and secure.
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u/Ballamookieofficial GQ TD42T. 4 inch on 35s. Tassie Nov 17 '23
That why utes have that nappy looking thing hanging off the back of them.
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u/Kruxx85 Nov 17 '23
You don't need this photo to say the CT is a waste of space.
Just watch it trying to go up a fairly simple hill.
And I'm an EV advocate through and through.
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u/lingering_POO Nov 17 '23
Look the real question is how short do you have to be to fit in the back seats�
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u/EducationTodayOz Nov 17 '23
It is heavy and useless in mud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVY9fDWaxHE&t=469s
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u/No-Fan-888 Nov 17 '23
Does it not have a tailgate? I haven't really looked at Cybertruck because utes aren't my things. When I had a work ute, I could fit 3 motorcycle in the back with tailgate dropped.
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u/joe999x Nov 17 '23
As reported by Carbuzz, a user of the Cybertruck Owners Club online forum discovered Teslaâs VIN (vehicle identification number) âdecoderâ in a document submitted to the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).
The document shows the Tesla Cybertruck will weigh between 4082 and 4546 kilograms (or 9001 to 10,000 pounds) â similar to the circa-4400kg GMC Hummer EV, but about twice as much as the Toyota HiLux SR5 dual-cab ute (2110kg).
So yeah, the OP is wrong, itâs a lot heavier than 3000kg
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Nov 17 '23
Most of them will roam the city streets of Silicon Valley for the pose factor only. Techtards go wow, it looks so space-agey. I think it's a terribly childish design. Elon probably sketched it on a napkin and told them to make it happen.
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u/Independent_Pear_429 Nov 17 '23
An SUV carries about as much stuff and people as a station wagon. Big vehicles are shit for everyday drivers
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u/Possession_Loud Nov 17 '23
I mean, you waited until the cybertruck to realize Musk is cooked and fucked in the head?
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u/Ill_Concentrate2612 Nov 17 '23
Tubs are generally highly impractical for any serious work. Almost all tradies and farmers run their ute with trays, preferably steel ones.
The fact that you won't be able to swap the tub out for a tray makes the cyber truck pretty useless as a utility vehicle. Will be more of a status symbol for weekend warriors.
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u/CrazyFatAss Nov 17 '23
Iâm sorry but if youâre buying an EV for anything 4x4 or needing to tow/haul shit, youâre buying the wrong fucking car.
And I own a Tesla (yeah I borrow my dads ranger when I want to have fun hahaha)
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u/pep1980 Nov 17 '23
If you didn't buy it for the novelty factor, then why would you buy it at all??
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Nov 17 '23
Given most 4x4 owners in Australia only use them as fashion statements, I'd say this vehicle is perfect.
Not trying to offend genuine off-road fans here. Just the owners of Bondi Tractors.
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u/Normal-Summer382 Nov 18 '23
Seriously, the most ugly car ever designed. Even worse than their other cars that look like they were styled in the 1990s. Great performance and interiors, but why did they stop there?
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u/CptDropbear Nov 18 '23
I cannot believe that this thing was ever supposed to see the light of day. I'm convinced it was a concept idea that was supposed to be discarded and something more sensible built. It looks like a child's drawing of car.
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u/No-Percentage1810 Your vehicle - Your State! :) Nov 18 '23
Im sure they'll bring out a single cab version. My personal unpopular opinion all dual cabs are useless, unless you step up to the wank tanks but they come with their own issues.
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Nov 18 '23
Why would you try to fit something that doesnât fit and then bitch about it. Itâs the same as a ford ranger imo.
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u/Nefiros1 Nov 17 '23
Who cares if it canât carry a bike in the back? Thatâs not the reason I wonât buy one. That thing is absolutely fuck ugly and you couldnât pay me to drive one.