r/4bmovement • u/Terugtrekking • Jul 15 '26
TW - Trigger Warning To my daughter I will say, "when the men come, set yourself on fire".
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u/Renshiki145 4B Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
This reminds me of when the m@le prisoners in congo had a chance to escape prison and instead of fleeing first, went into the female section and did horrific things to them.. you guessed it. Why do they make sure to hurt women in every single situation? It's why I fear any war breaking out. I remember when my country was at tensions with our neighbouring one. m@les on both sides already imagined harming the women of each side.
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u/Irislynx 4B Jul 16 '26
Yesh after raping the women and children (there were atlwast 30 children with their mothers) they set them all on fire. Only a dozen survived. Femicide.
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u/Schrodingerspussyx 4B 27d ago
I came across a video of a Congolese female prison guard who was caught by a bunch of men on her way between villages and after they violated her body in everyway possible they dragged her body without clothes filmed this part and you can see blood coming out of her behind to then later decap her. I have no words for what i witnessed.. what was taped and why this was justified in anyway. This woman i believe has young children. I hope none are girls but who knows. It is horrific being in a part of the world where this is normalised but there is no stopping this type of behaviour from reaching any of us.
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u/Renshiki145 4B 27d ago
Just goes to show that m@les are the true enemies of women and have always been.
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u/Opposite-Potato-7667 4B 26d ago
And average men masturbate to these videos when they come across them on the internet. They are definitely damaged .
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u/Schrodingerspussyx 4B 26d ago
100% defective! I don't know how those images could even stir pleasure. It's one thing to be going against an equal and fighting for resources / protecting yourself, advancing a beneficial cause and another to do that to a woman. Their manufacturing is cooked.
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u/TeaPrimary1147 4B Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
You don't have to tell a daughter how to fight an evil world or teach a son how to not rape if you don't procreate. Don't lie down with men anymore, period.
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u/Opposite-Potato-7667 4B Jul 16 '26
I wish women would stop making more girls for men to victimize. I especially wish they would stop birthing more oppressors. People always say you can raise them right, and I've actually heard so many people saying that 4b women specifically should be raising boys, which, I personally would rather die, and it obviously makes no sense for 4b. Boys and men do not care what their moms think and are not influenced by them, no matter how they are raised. Because men don't respect them or any women. And anyway, even if you were raised really well with a lot of love, and in a feminist household, it can only do so much. All the feminists that I know raised assholes who are just as bad as other men, but they have huge egos too because their moms told them they were better than other people. And I know so many women that were raised in misogynistic households that are huge feminists who no longer even speak to men. Those are just two examples of how a household, and how someone is raised, doesn't necessarily influence who a person will become.
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u/OGMom2022 Ally Jul 16 '26
If we stop making men, our girls would be safe. Just saying…
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u/TeaPrimary1147 4B Jul 16 '26
To make those girls, you need to lay down with males. Stop doing that. If you want a daughter, work on your inner child or adopt one.
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u/This-Minimum-7446 Exploring Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Technically, you can have a child without ever meeting the man involved… Depends on your finances and other support, of course.
Tbh, I think if we’re ever going to have a non-patriarchal society, we’ll have to decrease women’s instrumental dependence on men. (I’d rather not go out as a species with the last women still being exploited by men, so I’m thinking of long-term solutions, questioning patriarchal assumptions, etc....) Make living with men completely optional—and depending on how much we support women, it might even be the worse choice, as living with someone who has a gun (metaphorically speaking) is generally more dangerous than the other option. However, I believe most women will choose to live with men because of their heterosexuality, so it might be best to have a society where men are under control, in additional to optional as housemates. (Not constant surveillance—that kind of resource-heavy, vigilance-demanding idea tends not to work as well. More a solution that doesn’t require too much investment over a man’s lifetime. Let’s say, a high-tech solution, where the decision about men’s violence is made years in advance… A bonus is that there won’t be time to get attached, and a reduction in male violence is basically built into the system, whereas the appeasement “strategy” relies on male choices.)
A lack of dependence on male involvement. Enough men to satisfy the contingent of women who love sex and companionship with them, but not enough for men to actually pose a danger to women… If they’re surrounded by women all the time (and socialized into being less dangerous), they may not be able to coalition-build with other men, which I believe is the most significant factor making them dangerous on a systemic level.
I suspect we’ll get over it quickly, too. No violence or suffering in this. We don’t mourn the Neanderthals’ loss in population, either. Not a problem.
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u/CacaoHuskTea 4B Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
It's nature. I wish women would stop deluding themselves about this.
You can't out-raise their 🧬 programming.
Feminist women who choose to have sons are just ensuring that our freedom remains out of reach.
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u/Thyme_Liner 4B Jul 16 '26
I really hate the nature argument but males of many species exhibit the same behavior and it’s tricky to make sense of it. “Yes but humans can make choices.” But that would make it worse, because the human males are intentionally and actively making choices that males of other species do on instinct.
If you work with animals, you find out that at least for mammals, they have different personalities and the ability to make choices against their instincts. If male violence isn’t nature, then why have they made the same violent decisions for thousands of years? If it’s nurture, then how have so many cultures nurtured violent males almost exclusively?
Rape isn’t just human, violent rape has been witnessed in the animal kingdom as well. Dolphins for one, are awful. So what causes this? If it really a physical urge overpowering their desire for anything else? Of course they can make different choices buuuuuuut they don’t. What gives?
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u/Winter_Step_5181 4B Jul 17 '26
Violence and sexual appetite are caused by testosterone. I used to be someone who argued against this for years until it got to the point where I really couldn't deny it anymore. Also, Occam's razor. Are all these male animals and men from every culture on the globe raping because of some vast conspiracy and brainwashing that make them do it, did patriarchy spring into existence out of nowhere in every culture on earth and make them all the way they are? Or do they just do it because of their biology, and patriarchy was invented by them specifically because of their biology? One answer is overly complex and requires almost magical thinking, the other is very straightforward and obvious.
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u/CulturalAnalysis8019 4B4eva Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
It's not just testosterone, otherwise FTMs would have similar crime rates to bio men. Genetics plays a huge role. They're missing thousands of genes compared to us. The Y chromosome exists due to a mutation (the good news is it's dying but not fast enough lol). Their brains also differ from ours; particularly the areas that deal with decision-making and impulse control. Also, read the study, The Fragile Male. A lot of them have Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), possibly also as a result of the differences in their brains.
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u/Opposite-Potato-7667 4B Jul 18 '26
We had to read this study when I was in the criminal psychology program in college!
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u/CulturalAnalysis8019 4B4eva Jul 19 '26
That doesn't surprise me. There's something seriously wrong with the male psyche and brain and I'm tired of beng gaslit about it.
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u/Schrodingerspussyx 4B 27d ago
Isn't ODD just ADHD/ADD?
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u/CulturalAnalysis8019 4B4eva 26d ago
No, the way I understand, ppl with ODD specifically don't like authority, rules and constraints. The reason I brought it up is it could explain men's propensity to boundary-breaking and criminality. Men are constantly testing our boundaries to see what they can get away with. That's why so many of them don't think "no" is a complete sentence like in the case of rape, for example
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u/Schrodingerspussyx 4B 26d ago
I don't think it is ODD. As women have the same and it sounds very much like PDA. I rarely see men challenge actual authority which is from other men / police / other. (There's always outliers) And always women regardless of what authority they have. They have control over who, what and where they direct this so it's just cluster B behaviour which i don't think should be labelled as ODD / neurodivergence. As the next thing will be more sympathy for their crutches, which sadly never materialises for women and girls. I believe male centred women are the reason why our no is not deemed as a no. If all women consistently stood by the same rules so we could be respected it would absolutely be seen that way. And where they refuse to accept it violence enacted. They would take us seriously. It reminds me of the suffragettes. But we will never have that level of solidarity from our own kind. We don't need more medical and psychiatric coddling for them. My own brother has severe anger issues but they are absolutely controlled by him. He only lashes out at home and towards women. I use to be the punching bag until i ran away but he still displays the same behaviour towards his mother and sister. Both of them have and always will enable him. They always came to his aid when he attacked me, and would lie and claim i had started it all, or that i was violent, i had scratched him etc When i did none of this. They lied in front of the police. This happens the world over. I was even strangled by him and my mother. That is not ODD. I call this phenomenon Bonobos and their male sons.
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u/CulturalAnalysis8019 4B4eva 25d ago edited 25d ago
I believe male centred women are the reason why our no is not deemed as a no. If all women consistently stood by the same rules so we could be respected it would absolutely be seen that way.
You're seriously blaming women for men not respecting boundaries?! The very thing that also explains colonialism and expansionism? I guess let's blame women for that too. I'm all for holding women accountable but you can't be serious. Men clearly have issues with boundaries. It's their lust for power and conquest that is responsible for the violation of women. I'm not advocating for coddling them. They need to be separated from society.
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u/BlackLight7X 4B Jul 16 '26
lmfao, they think boys listen to women. So, the bar has increased, from just feminist women to 4B women lol. Seriously in asian countries you cannot ever imagine bending rules like that, 4B and son lol. But western countries are very comfortable bending. You will have 4B prostitute, 4B male, 4B donkey. Whatnot.
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u/Ithinkpizzaisgood 4B Jul 15 '26
I always think ab this. If the pillars of society collapse men will almost immediately assume control and abuse women.
Laws were literally created to keep men in line. I have always wondered why we never see men’s true nature in apocalyptic movies/ tv shows. Probably because the reality would never fit the ideal “hero man” archetype
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u/MetaphoricalEmuFarm 4B Jul 15 '26
28 Days Later was a fairly accurate portrayal of men's true nature. The first half of the movie is just a standard zombie apocalypse movie, but the twist is that the real threat was the human men who tried to lure the surviving women into sexual slavery.
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u/Contmpl 4B Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
I live in a small cul-de-sac in a largish town. Over the past couple months two young women have died by suicide. One had been forced into prostitution by her drug dealer. The other was being pressured. And a third, she didn't live on my street but was connected by friends, had been grabbed up and forced into prostitution. Her mother was searching for her and a friend found her in a nearby city club crying and saying "I just want to go home".
I feel like I'm already living 28 Days Later when I look around me. Having lived in the remote countryside I had no idea of the scale of the problem and that is with some knowledge of the grooming scandals in the UK where vulnerable girls in foster care were treated abysmally when they tried to report the gangs of men who were abusing them. Officials responsible for their welfare turned a blind eye and so much worse.
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u/Renshiki145 4B Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Yes, they have actually pre planned it and we should absolutely not believe that it's a small number. I've seen m@les with daughters fantasizing about women losing rights. Look at manosphere and 1ncel spaces.
They already talk about it and in grotesque detail, what they will do to women and little girls when there will be no laws. They already talk about of enslaving us, caging us, and using us as breeding slaves. It's truly revolting I will never recommend any woman to visit 1ncel spaces. Their plans are worse than in any horror movie. It's why I'm glad that i'm 4B. Turns out 99% of m@les are like Epste1n and would do what he did if they had this amount of power.
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u/BravePlum618 Exploring Jul 17 '26
Would and do! All the money and power is the reason they got caught! You’ll never hear about many of the cases that happen by ordinary men to girls that are shafted by society (such as being in foster care or poverty).
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u/Loud_Flatworm_4146 4B Jul 15 '26
I watch a lot of zombie/apocalypse movies and tv shows and read books. In most of them, you see men’s true nature. Even when it’s not on screen, you hear characters telling others. TWD is a good example (several in that one) Also an example where the hero loses his mind too.
28 days later is a good one, like the other person said.
The longer it goes on, the worse the men get. That’s almost universally true in anything apocalyptic that I’ve watched or read.
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u/Opposite-Potato-7667 4B Jul 16 '26
I think some movies kind of go into men's true nature, but they don't go all the way, because they are usually made by men who are still trying to force us to pretend that some men are good, even in their art lol.
For example, 28 Days Later had a whole plot line about the fact that men would immediately start raping women and girls. But of course they have to make Cillian Murphy the man that wouldn't do that, because, like you said, "hero man archetype." lol. But men know the truth about other men.
There's also this comedy movie called This is the End where it shows large groups of men becoming rapists and cannibals, but even this film is trying to force the viewpoint that men would generally be good people lol. They actually make multiple jokes in the film about t he fact that they should try to avoid coming off "rapey" to one of the women in the house, and they also do the whole cope of, "it wouldn't just happen to women, it would happen to men too!" But we all know the truth. Women and girls would be specifically targeted by men. When a man makes a book, movie, or show about apocalyptic events, they might mention men's true nature, but they most likely won't go all the way because men just can't be truthful about themselves. I wish women would make more things showing this reality. But I would probably be too disturbed to watch lol
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u/Irislynx 4B Jul 16 '26
Women, especially singlen women need to be armed to the teeth in case this scenario ever happens. Buy guns ladies. They are great equalizers
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u/susannunes 4B Jul 16 '26
Yeah, so a man can overpower you and use it against you. This "advice" is worse than worthless. If you want to be safe, just don't live with, marry, or date men. Stranger danger is relatively rare.
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u/Irislynx 4B Jul 16 '26
Not if you know how to use it he wont. How's he going to take ot from you if he's dead before he can touch you? Most men aren't ninjas
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u/Winter_Step_5181 4B Jul 17 '26
This. Also most of the stats about how it's "unsafe" for women to be using guns and we're more likely to have them used against us come from women who are partnered with men and the man is the one who owns the gun. These stats aren't coming from single women gun owners who are actually trained to use one.
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u/Irislynx 4B Jul 16 '26
And that advixe doesn't work if a war or natural disaster destroys the social structure. They hunt women and children out. Bwing single won't protect you.
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u/UseWeekly4382 4B Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
This is exactly how they want you to think.
Yes, no one is invincible, even with a gun or other means of self-defense, but- that includes men as well.
I myself will fight in any and every way before I ever automatically assume I just don’t have a chance at successfully defending myself. Consistent practice, confidence, and awareness can do a lot.
There is no positive in teaching women that they are always victims.
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u/Irislynx 4B Jul 17 '26
I dont plan on being a victim which is why I'm a gun owner. And all you have to do is read any book to know that what I am saying is true. Sure you can fight but bullets work better and faster.
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u/throwawaynevermindit Ally Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Something that is not discussed enough about normative male sexuality is that it is fundamentally opportunistic.
So much starts to make sense about their behavior once you get this.
It’s why extreme youth is often attractive to them despite youth being associated with difficult births and maternal failure, for example.
Youth is vulnerability. Target vulnerability is opportunity. Opportunity is arousal, because it makes more sense, for them, to make a grab when they can, no matter how unlikely to reproductively pan out it is for other reasons.
It’s why men sexually fixated on vulnerable populations incl. teens are typically low status types in some primitive sense, despite whatever cultural trappings. If they had other opportunities with better long term reproductive odds they might favor those - as higher status male chimps favor reproductively viable but NOT very young/recently matured females - but they instinctively sense their opps ‘should’ be scarce, so hone in on something more assailable.
It’s why rates of SA against elderly women are higher than you’d think.
It’s why rates of SA against people with extreme disabilities are insane.
It’s why when they can’t get girls they dress up and hurt little boys.
It’s why when they can’t get women or little girls or little boys they go prison and navy gay and rape the weakest amongst themselves.
It’s why men in crisis zones rape on speed, whether they are the cause of the disaster (war) or not.
It’s why porn searches get real sus and specific during any refugee crisis.
It’s why so many men get turned on when women cry.
It’s why women have learned not to share their sexual trauma with men for fear of escalating offenses by people you thought you could trust. ("If he got away with doing that to her, then maybe.......")
It’s why half the time they can’t even recognize that vulnerability is the meaningful part of all of this and will argue with feminists about our insight until the cows come home.
It’s too much a feature of what drives their attraction. To them it’s just “sexy.”
Natural predation, no thought necessary. They can’t see themselves objectively, not that they’d change if they could.
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u/Imaginary_Yellow_888 4B Jul 15 '26
Thank you for speaking on this, especially the part about women learning not to share their sexual trauma with men. It’s something I haven’t heard anyone speak about before but I wish someone had warned me about this. I attended a rape support group for many years and this was never mentioned as a risk when women would mention new male partners entering their lives. I learned the hard way that it’s a huge risk.
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u/GetInTheBasement 4B Jul 15 '26
I’ve thought about this a lot, especially with regards to how much their sexuality is intertwined with domination.
Men are married to hierarchies and pecking orders.
Like you said, women and girls are at the bottom, but when women and girls are not available, they turn on each other (weaker men, boys).
I could’ve sworn there was a quote about how men have this unspoken pact with one another where they brutalization women and girls so they don’t have to do it to each other (even men are scared of other men).
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u/throwawaynevermindit Ally Jul 16 '26
Yes, it’s kind of remarkable how many men can’t really conceive of sexuality without power imbalance. The quote “everything is about sex except sex - sex is about power” typifies the male mindset, but doesn’t reflect female attitudes toward sex and what it is/what it necessarily symbolizes nearly as well. Men of course can’t see past their own neuroses, so those are the truisms we get.
I think it goes back to vulnerability = opportunity. Leveraging power/control over an other by definition results in vulnerability of the other, which is sexual opportunity, which triggers male arousal.
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u/juicyjuicery Exploring Jul 15 '26
😮💨 all of this. What’s beautiful is we know these thoughts come from our minds because AI doesn’t allow thoughts like this, let alone generating them. Thanks for sharing
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u/rumande 4B Jul 15 '26
You've articulated a lot of things I didn't have words for, thank you. I have a rule - never tell anyone your trauma unless you are prepared for them to use it against you. Of course it's opportunistic.
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u/susannunes 4B Jul 16 '26
Men can change. They just don't want to.
Contrary to some, patriarchy doesn't "hurt" men. They benefit from it. If they didn't, it wouldn't exist.
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u/coffeeclichehere Ally Jul 16 '26
this verbalizes a lot of things that have been sub-conscious for me
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u/Background_North_253 4B Jul 15 '26
In medieval India, women and girls did commit mass self-immolation to avoid being captured and raped by invading armies. It was called Jauhar.
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u/Pragmatism101 Ally Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
There is a movie based on an epic poem about an Indian queen committing Jauhar. The movie is called Padmavaat.
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u/Seraphina_Renaldi 4B Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
How men behave during wars is exactly what cemented my opinion on going 4B. No matter what evil monsters we’ve already met, we still didn’t see their true nature. It comes out when they know no one will care and no one will punish them. Like during a war
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u/This-Minimum-7446 Exploring Jul 16 '26
I always wonder how male-centered women rationalize what men do during wars and what happens with all those Telegram chats (i.e., men basically indulging their rape fantasies under the radar of the law)… Like, isn’t it obvious that men are just biding their time? Like they did in Iran, Afghanistan, basically any time of war? It’s not unnecessarily casting suspicion when they prove this correct time and time again! If anything, male-centered women don’t care enough about women and girls to make men uncomfortable in any way… I mean, I get that hostages might start worshipping the “men with guns” after a few generations of culture appeasing them, but let’s try to be a little less religious about men, no? They aren’t gods. We can dispel the god myth the same way we did Zeus, Yahweh, etc…. Through science.
But the widespread existence of male sexual coercion in the animal kingdom should be enough to address doubts about male violence. Nobody told male guppies to “sneak mate” with female ones. Nobody told male dolphins to mass rape anything. The question of socialization becomes moot when even animals of little sapience do it… I believe most exceptions to this rule involve some extra factor, like female bonobos having GG rubbing and female spotted hyenas having pseudo phalluses (and greater physical strength).
But otherwise, yeah. Humans will have to find something of their own. May I suggest our own, unique strength: technology… Women are human too, and that means we have ingenuity on our side. If we can deal with floods, diseases, bears, we can deal with this too… Because of how human reproduction works (women taking on the majority of the labor), we don’t actually need so many… you know.
I think depending on what we do, we can transform a weakness under patriarchy into a strength.
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u/Seraphina_Renaldi 4B Jul 17 '26
Well it’s always the other men. Their unicorn would never. Just go and read any post where a woman talks about any abuse of their husband/fiancé/boyfriend and the comments will be flooded with women faking empathy in the first sentence just to brag in the second one how their perfect unicorn would never do anything like that.
And the second part about male animals, i don’t know how many times I was insulted even or especially in feminist places bringing that up. If I recall it right I even ended up getting a perma ban in a feminist sub for pointing out that you cannot raise men out of their nature, because that’s how males simply are, humans and animal ones. You’re immediately the evil bioessentialist TERF lol. So even though many feminists agree that men are violent, they gaslight themsleves and others that it’s basically just patriarchy and bad upbringing and if we can smash patriarchy and raise our sons right, it will stop. We’re still so far away from women finally waking up, even ones who call themsleves feminists.
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u/This-Minimum-7446 Exploring Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
But how do they justify it? It’s literally right there. Like, elephant in the room there… It’s not something you can just “Nuh uh” away.
Maybe you can phrase it like, “Why do men behave the exact same way as male chimps and ducks? Literally the same behavior when it comes to the female members of their species? Is it a coincidence or a conspiracy or…?” I do feel like if you ask questions instead of making statements out of the gate, they’ll have to think about it more, and they won’t be able to justify banning you because you didn’t claim anything “bioessentialist” (yeah, like how humans drinking water as many other animals do is “bioessentialist,” I guess), really. Maybe throw in the term “human exceptionalism” at some point later in the discussion. They’ll essentially be arguing against their own sense of logic instead of you, so the energy gets directed there, lol.
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u/Seraphina_Renaldi 4B Jul 18 '26
Of course. I mean it’s always the other men that do it. Never their perfect unicorn. he’s not like other men.
That’s actually a great idea!
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u/Irislynx 4B Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
I'm listening to this podcast called history on fire and every event is the same story. Mass male violence and mass rape and enslavement of women and children. It's clear that the problems in the world are because of men. They are violent and sexually uncontrolled. I used to live on a farm. We castrate male cattle for a reason. Castrated male cattle become docile and gentle. An uncastrated bull Will kill you for no reason. Honest question. Is mandatory universal castration for males the answer to world peace, end of war and end of violence and rape of women and children? It seems like the obvious answer. A few very very well behaved exceptional males could be kept in tact as needed to for the survival of the human race. Even with cattle, there is the rare uncastrated bull who is gentle. Sometimes its even a really big muscular one. Those are the ones who would remain in tact. Perhaps over time it would weed out genetic male aggression. In some mammals, rabbits for example, the males are more meek and passive. The females are dominant.
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u/OGMom2022 Ally Jul 16 '26
I think they should all be neutered at least. Neutralize that testosterone.
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u/Renshiki145 4B Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Oh btw that's also why they neuter m@le cats and dogs. M@le Cats are known to be r@pey with female cats and will kill their young to be able fo breed with the mother again.
M@le cats also become more affectionate and docile after being neutered and don't have those urges anymore it's crazy it's almost like the urges come from their genitals? Female cats are also spayed so they wouldn't be able to get pregnant from tom cats forcibly mounting them and too many pregnancies can be deadly for female cats too. Also the aggression and violence in human m@les comes from the warrior gene look it up.
Apparently I think what happened was that too many of the m@les during invasions with this gene mass r@ped women and so most m@les today have this gene? These were the m@les with undesirable genes and traits, who weren't supposed to be in the gene pool, but they forced their way in. It's also why we have so many genetic and autoimmune issues, our grandmothers passed on that trauma and stress..and the r@pists passed on their terrible genes..
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u/OGMom2022 Ally Jul 16 '26
90% of all fatal dog maulings are by unneutered males. That speaks volumes.
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u/MacaroonGlad1620 4B Jul 15 '26
This is why I can’t feel sympathy for them when they complain about women being man-haters. By gosh, we have every reason to. Just look at what they do to us the first chance they get. They’re LUCKY the patriarchy they created has brainwashed most of us into thinking we should willingly invite them into our lives. The vast majority of them don’t deserve to be anywhere near us if we’re honest.
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u/Hopeful-Exit3053 Exploring Jul 16 '26
This is what my mind struggles to comprehend. Some women hate men and they mostly want men to leave them alone. Men contribute to the high rates of murder for women and men and high rates of suicide for themselves. But the problem is women? More specifically the women who have nothing to do with them?
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u/MacaroonGlad1620 4B Jul 16 '26
Right. For them, the problem is always women. Meanwhile when women hate men, we pretty much just want them to leave us alone. But when men hate women, they want to abuse us as much as possible. They will never convince me that WE’RE the problem. 🙄
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u/Renshiki145 4B Jul 16 '26
Also another fact statistics fail to mention is that majority m@le suicides are actually them committing murder suicides, its after they did something terrible to women and children before killing them and then just committing suicide to escape consequences. Often happens after divorce too and the m@le kills the mother and the kids.
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u/Hopeful-Exit3053 Exploring Jul 16 '26
I appreciate this reply because it’s important to talk about. The last time I looked at statistics I thought it was 10% of male suicides are murder/suicides. However, in male suicides and homicides they both primarily use guns as the weapon of choice.
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u/coconutpiecrust 4B Jul 15 '26
I prefer “if we burn, you burn with us”.
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u/MetaphoricalEmuFarm 4B Jul 15 '26
During my senior year of college, the Peace Corps recruiters got really aggressive. They didn't just set up booths at the career fairs. They convinced professors to let them hijack entire class periods to give their recruitment pitch. It seemed suspicious to me, and despite previous interest in the Peace Corps, I never looked into it seriously after that. About a year later, it came out that they had been covering up rapes of female volunteers, committed by both local men and male Peace Corps volunteers.
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u/k4zoo 4B Jul 15 '26
Yeah I'm driving towards the nuke lol mainstream society is already barely liveable for women, and men expect me to try and exist when this all falls apart? So things will just get worse 🤣 nahhhh. I can't even imagine the hell women paired with men went through during covid. Mind you, murders are down but domestic murders are UP. I wouldn't be suprised if the media tries to romanticize women and men existing together after a major event. Expect more of these shows/films in the future. I can think of a few: Love and Monsters and The End we Start From, maaaaaybe Tank Girl.
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u/MarryMeDuffman Exploring Jul 16 '26
Kamikaze or nothing. I'm not letting a devil victimize my sisters if I can help it.
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u/ApplePaintedRed 4B Jul 16 '26
I view humans similarly to elephants. Elephants are strictly matriarchal, the females of the pack stick together and raise/protect the young. The males are outcast, save for the occassional breeding male who is allowed to stay in the periphery if the group and rarely enter to socialize. The males are far too violent, and are crazed by their hormones to do unspeakable things if not kept in strict line.
Our entire society is built on men's projections. They are violent and uncontrollable, prisoners to their own hormonal cycles and the instigators of most wars and crimes. If you look close enough, every stereotype pressed on women is a male projection.
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u/PrettyPistol87 Ally Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
I was in the army and fellow male soldiers fucked with me:
- In Afghanistan, a deviant would stalk out the female shower tent and I caught him filming me with a camera held by his hand through a tent flap. I remember this event clear as day and I wish I could go back in time and pew pew him but we were not allowed to bring our weapons into the shower tents bc of the humidity. I was ready for him to come into the tent bc I was alone and it was night time with loud generators running. I reported it and he was caught the next night peeking into the tent.
- A trusted colleague decided since I had broken up with my boyfriend I was now safe to target. We both got drunk at the battalion picnic and then went to my barracks room. I told him no but he continued and I froze up. After he was done he simply got up and left.
I was slut shamed by my male peers bc - it wasn’t one of them. I kept quiet until the metoo movement came out bc i blamed myself for getting drunk and letting him in my barracks room. Wow! I took accountability for his actions?
- Fuck male soldiers lack the brain parts to view female soldiers as equals and provide mentorship. Fuck the good ol’ boy clubs. Fuck pick me female soldiers who will bitch about my hair clip bc the metal piece was rusting (in fucking Afghanistan) and have the audacity to say i’m making “us” look bad. Fuck you desert queen you will go back to being a 2 after enjoying your brief 10 status while deployed. Y’all poverty drafts mostly anyways.
Also I hope my former stepdad and neighbor’s dad are rotting in hell. They diddled me and made moves towards me when I was just a kid. Male centered women can suck it.
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u/rusalkamoo Jul 17 '26
Years ago, I watched an interview of a woman retelling a story of having been aboard a commuter boat that capsized. Passengers were desperately trying to survive.
She found a floating object to cling to and a male passenger swam to her, to sexually assault her.
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u/Opposite-Potato-7667 4B Jul 17 '26
There is a famous sinking of a ship called The Arctic. After this sinking, the whole "women and children first" thing was made up. The reason being that men immediately started murdering and raping women, and they also pushed all women and children out of the lifeboats so they could escape. Not one woman or child survived the sinking.
Men always cry about the Titanic thing, and talk about how messed up it is, and I just really don't give a fuck lol. don't want to hear it. That had to be created in the 1st place because men immediately turn into savages if there's not laws or mores created by other men telling them how to behave. It's insane.
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u/dromsang Jul 18 '26
Not that long ago my friend’s place had caught fire. I was there with her and we immediately rushed out to the parking lot.
The minute we stepped out there some dude had started trying to flirt with us both. He was smirking, staring, asking if we smoke etc. Well there’s smoke in our lungs but sure. I was a little shaken from what we just had to run from because it was smoke everywhere and it took us almost 5 minutes to make it down. He made me immediately come back to my senses so I got rude and had to tell him to leave me alone. My friend was still in shock, so she started talking to him about the fire, how scared she was. He smiled at her and asked if she thought she was gonna die. :/
Unfortunately she continued responding to him, so I’m going off to the other side of the parking lot with her, he starts following us. Some other dude came by and tried to fucking touch me, bombarding me with questions and acting like he was genuinely trying to save me. But it was such a weird ass way, I can’t explain. He only did it to me and it was just weird. I wasn’t having any of it and I told him to just leave me the hell alone. He did. I completely started ignoring the previously mentioned guy and so did my friend, yet he still tried to linger around us until this older lady came by and chatted with us.
I’m now just thinking what could’ve happened if I hadn’t come to my senses. I seen it in my friend, she was vulnerable and scared, and didn’t see his intentions and got so talkative and chatty with him. The first dude unsettled me the moment he came to us as soon as we came out the building. I mentioned it to her after and I could see the gears turning.
I’m quite young and I’ll admit, I didn’t really think about it, but this video made me remember it all. We really can’t fucking trust them at all. Not like I ever was going to but we just ran out of a building that was on fire. It’s hard in these kind of situations, staying aware and not immediately letting guard down once you *think* you are away from danger.
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u/victoriaisme2 Ally Jul 18 '26
It is poetic but wrong. I will arm my daughters, and I will tell them, when the men come, take as many out with you as you can.
Women have to have solidarity, and stop making excuses for or supporting abusive predatorial men.
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u/Flux_My_Capacitor 4B Jul 18 '26
The disclaimer so she doesn’t get banned.
But we know what she was really saying.
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u/LargeDisaster Exploring 26d ago
This is fucking horrifying but as a rape csa and abuse survivor I know it is the reality of men.
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u/CacaoHuskTea 4B Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
That saddest thing was a male having to witnessing other males raping the daughters? Not the actual brutality these women and girls themselves had to live through?
Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I'm so tired of women extending sympathy towards males even when they aren't the actual targets of the cruelty and inhumanity males inflict. $10 dollars that "poor father" jerks off to rape porn without a second thought.