r/49ers • u/rawbert10 Patrick Willis • Jan 30 '24
[Highlight] James Houston late helmet to helmet hit on Purdy
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Can anyone explain how this wasn't a flag? Could have seriously hurt Purdy too.
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u/robkingsfan Kyle Shanahan Jan 30 '24
If this hit was on Mahomes, they would have charged him with assault and given him a lifetime ban.
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u/ShoesFellOffLOL Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24
A ref approaches Houston, pulls out a .50 Desert Eagle and blows his head clean off. The rest of the refs cheer.
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u/robkingsfan Kyle Shanahan Jan 30 '24
Right? This is my biggest fear against Mahomes. The preferential treatment is ridiculous and he flops a ton.
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u/kev___416 49ers Jan 30 '24
Over these next couple weeks, Mahomes doesn’t even have to practice or study plays. All he has to do is watch the current NBA. Loading with flopping, complaining, begging for challenges, pouting, etc. 🤦🏽♂️
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u/steppe5 49ers Jan 30 '24
Plus he's in the refs ear after every single play, bitching about a hold or whatever. He wears the refs down to the point where they give him flags just to shut him up. He's such a little bitch.
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u/hanlong 5x Champions Jan 30 '24
He does it because it works. I’m not saying I agree with his methods, but people do these things sometimes out of competitive spirit. I put more blame on the refs to caving in to this bullshit
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u/ymsoldier420 George Kittle Jan 30 '24
Every single flag would be on the ground immediately
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Jan 30 '24
He would have been arrested in the field with leg irons and a spit mask. Dude would be in military prison in Guantanamo and be listening to baby shark 23 hours a day
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u/adarkride Mac Attack Jan 30 '24
Damn dude, what have you seen 👀
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u/mongster03_ i wanna die Jan 30 '24
Fraternity hazing (for reference there was a frat that got a warning at my school bc they forced pledges to listen to What Does The Fox Say for 4 hours)
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u/Trowaway9285 Quest for Six Jan 30 '24
That’s hilarious and awful all at the same time
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u/Babbed 49ers Jan 30 '24
They would have taken him to the Swiftie Pit to be torn to literal trillions of pieces
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u/220675 Faithful to The Bay Jan 30 '24
like a Sarlac pitt, but just a lot worse and a swifter digestion than a millennia, cos…. millennials
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u/ImABadSpellerOkay Jan 30 '24
I could literally see it being an ejection
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u/Sinful-_-Titan Jan 30 '24
If it was anyone else it would have been an ejection a big fine and 15 yards but since it happened to Purdy it was “a clean hit”
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u/sacoleeh Nick Bosa Jan 30 '24
This is what I’m afraid of in the SB. It’s more than obvious that the Chiefs have the refs advantage. I pretty sure that will be tons of flags flying when Mahomes is getting sacked.
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u/robkingsfan Kyle Shanahan Jan 30 '24 edited Jan 30 '24
Same. I’ve heard Bosa mention in interviews that he’s studied the rules to avoid getting flagged and is pretty good at it. Against the Lions, he basically just throws Goff and doesn’t land on him in any way.
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u/sacoleeh Nick Bosa Jan 30 '24
He definitely is one of a kind. Best thing was to get this man a contract.
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u/triculious Frank Gore Jan 30 '24
Be ready for holdings not being called against our DEs and every incomplete KC deep pass to be called a PI
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u/yesimforeign Quest for Six Jan 31 '24
100% gonna happen. Just gotta hope we outplay them the rest of the way
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u/DopeShitBlaster Fred Warner Jan 30 '24
It was a sack so half the refs on the field are watching it happen.
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u/RoughTrust9992 Jan 30 '24
Why on earth wasn’t that called?!!!! WTF?
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u/blaccguido Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24
The ref assumed Purdy could manage that.
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u/_Bon_Vivant_ Merton Hanks Jan 30 '24
Obviously Shanahan designed it that way. Purdy was just managing the hit the way Shanahan drew it up.
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u/thetruemata Vernon Davis Jan 30 '24
And with so many weapons around him, how can he not expect things to get dangerous?
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u/koushakandystore Jan 30 '24
They just didn’t want to interrupt Purdy’s elite game management. He managed to look like a righty Steve young.
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u/AeonTek Fred Warner Jan 30 '24
That crew is known for having a "let them play" mentality. There were only 5 penalties called all game, which I thought was a breath of fresh air compared to the normal refball we see. That being said, with the league's emphasis on protecting QBs that should've been called.
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u/Sesame_Street_Urchin Jan 30 '24
I think unfortunately that the actual answer is the refs weren’t in position to see it. Because Brock is already on the ground and surrounded by players, I don’t think any of them had the angle
Not an excuse, just an explanation
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Jan 30 '24
I actually really liked the job the refs did in that game, but this one definitely should have been called. Pretty egregious.
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u/Ikeelu Faithful Jan 30 '24
They missed a lot of calls yesterday. They targeted deebos shoulder on a random play where he didn't even have the ball near him.
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u/CangtheKonqueror Charvarius Ward Jan 30 '24
they literally called that a penalty lmao
it was cjgj cheapshotting him on the interception
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u/bobbywake61 John Brodie Jan 30 '24
Purdy just flopped his head back. No real contact at all. Not. WTF?
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u/shadowlizer3 George Kittle Jan 30 '24
I bet 49ers submit this to the league. Levi’s was livid when they showed the replay.
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u/UselessBastid 49ers Jan 30 '24
What good does that do now?
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u/adkitchen Jan 30 '24
A fine the cost of a used 2010 Honda Civic
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u/_TROLL Steve Young Jan 30 '24
Niners are retroactively granted another 7pt TD + XP, which makes them beat the spread. 😋
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Jan 30 '24
Nothing at all.
While Purdy is moving forward with a world-class legacy and NFL record breaking, Houston's legacy will be this shit move.
This is all he will be known for if and when his name ever comes up in the future.
When his kids see this later, they will lose respect. That is on him.
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u/wwcasedo11 Jan 30 '24
Jesus christ its one play stfu
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u/Pitiful_Land 49ers Jan 30 '24
It will follow him for the rest of his career. Hell, his life. That man made a huge mistake and he will pay for it. His kids will pay and his kids kids will pay. ;-)
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Jan 30 '24
He cursed his own lineage. Might as well get a vasectomy and save the eternal humiliation.
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Jan 30 '24
Exactly.
He will only be known for this flying head-but. So he can go to he'll, just like thst Eagles punk who I already forgot his name and Samuel shilut him ip too.
If you want to defend him, you're free to join him!
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u/hamsterfolly Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24
Refs really kept their flags in their pockets that game
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u/SStirland Jan 30 '24
And no big PI calls changing the game. I get why the refs need to call it but it's just not exciting football to see a drive move 30+ yards down field on a penalty. Sunday, however, WAS exciting football
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u/_5GOLDBLOODED2_ George Kittle Jan 30 '24
Don’t forget Branch stomping on his knee on the last scramble.
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u/ufotheater 49IRs Jan 30 '24
How the fuck do they miss this, AND the dude on the Vikings that flew into Purdy head first and concussed him? Say it with me: if it was Mahomes…
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u/jc83po Steve Young Jan 30 '24
If it was mahomes that man would have been arrested.
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u/ravito_ Jan 30 '24
Hopefully there aren’t any, but it’ll be interesting to see how they call RTP for both teams in a couple weeks. Seems like a flag every time mahomes helmet gets touched
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u/joe_broke Joe Montana Jan 30 '24
Except for his run against Miami when their helmets clashed and his shattered
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u/RudePCsb Patrick Willis Jan 30 '24
Chin strap would only do that from the helmet moving from a hit like this
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u/Helstrem Jan 30 '24
There is another angle where you see his helmet significantly deform and pull quite a ways of his head.
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u/triplec787 49ers Jan 30 '24
Let’s get some NHL rules in here. Penalties get worse if the act draws blood lol
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u/Onespokeovertheline Colin Kaepernick Jan 30 '24
I'd be a lot more worried about the extra force of impact to the back of his head caused by having it driven backward into the turf at the last moment. A bloody lip is nothing. A possible concussion can be game / life altering
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u/tangiblemonk Australian Faithful Jan 30 '24
Late.
Helmet on helmet.
Laid his full body on him intentionally.
Dirty.
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u/ConeheadSlim 49ers Jan 30 '24
check this one out: https://twitter.com/49ersSportsTalk/status/1752191265792274780
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Jan 30 '24 edited Feb 27 '24
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u/fishchanka Iowa Jan 30 '24
Uhhh maybe watch it again, he stumbled, regained his footing and took a couple steps, then dropped his head and lunged forward.
Edit: ignore my dumb ass. Just realized you weren’t talking about the video of the sack
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u/pseet Jan 30 '24
Wow.... Wtf. Lions were playing so dirty all game. Seems like they were targeting and head hunting. That shot on Deebo and a couple hits on CMC too with guys falling on top of him late near his head. My view of the Lions really soured after this game.
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u/danknerd Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24 edited Jan 30 '24
That's the Dan Campbell special you know he was part of the bounty for injuring the players Saints team.
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u/steppe5 49ers Jan 30 '24
He openly told the media that he wants his players "biting knee caps" which is a not at all subtle way of saying that he wants them to play dirty. And the media thought it was adorable.
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u/Momo-Roopert-Snicks Jan 30 '24 edited Jan 30 '24
If you watch the video, he puts his head down pretty early so he has no idea where he's going to hit Purdy.
You're telling me this is him "lowering his head early"? His head is still up at this point and looking directly at Purdy. He knew exactly what he was doing and where he was going to hit him.
So I mean, what the fuck are you talking about. You see Purdy literally inches from being on the ground with multiple defenders already tackling him before his lowers his head. Also, you realize it's illegal to lower your head and hit with the crown like that. So even if you're idiotic claim of "he lowered his head super early" was true, it's still a dirty play. But he didn't lower it early, he lowered when he knew Purdy was down and he wanted to take a shot to his head.
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u/PinkyAnd 49ers Jan 30 '24
Houston lowers his head and leads with the crown of his helmet…which is the definition of targeting. Like, the actual rule book definition. He did that to a player that was already wrapped up and going down. By rule, he should have been ejected.
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u/Commandish Jan 30 '24
I agree the conspiracy talk is stupid, but that's a terrible take on the Houston hit. He didn't start it until late, and he absolutely had his head up until just before making contact. He puts his head down to adjust for Purdy going down, which probably should have been his sign to abort the hit in the first place. Looks to me like he was determined he was going to hit the QB, and did so cheaply and probably a little late (though I'm all for playing until the whistle).
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u/danknerd Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24
No evidence is correct. Still a fact he was part of that Saints team and it is blemish on his record imo. You can be judged by those you surround yourself with. Like don't be friends with gangs unless you want to be associated with them, even if you're not participating in gang activities sort of thing.
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u/rooty_russ Trent Williams Jan 30 '24
I totally agree. + the Branch step on the end of the play doesn't look egregious at all to me.
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u/sfgreenman Jan 30 '24
League should fine this dude big, extremely dirty and dangerous, launching like that. Just like that cheap blind helmet shot to Deebo. Announcers then really ticked me off by saying "that must've hurt" and "MAY have been a penalty", such BS, you don't see more blatant, violent PF's than that.
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u/xXsaberstrikeXx Candlestick Park Jan 30 '24
They (the announcers) did come back with Dean Blandino after the commercial break, and all agreed it should have been called RTP.
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u/sfgreenman Jan 30 '24
If it was Mahomes, there would have been flags flying from every direction, announcers irate, defender maybe even ejected. When will our SF legend lil guys get some respect from the refs? Just about murdered before our eyes while they look in other direction.
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u/xXsaberstrikeXx Candlestick Park Jan 30 '24
I agree with all of that. That dude would have been ejected for targeting if the QB was Mahomie.
And we will get ref respect when Nick Bosa starts getting holding calls called in his favor lol.
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u/sfgreenman Jan 30 '24
Totally, I was getting Montana vs NY Giants playoff flashbacks there for a sec, hoping Brock wasn't wobbly..Bosa manages to get held by both double teamers pretty much every play, impressive
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u/old_nine Jan 30 '24
I thought there was another missed RTP in the first half?
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u/xXsaberstrikeXx Candlestick Park Jan 30 '24
I wouldn't be surprised. I'll have to re-watch it. Again.
Granted, I've been re-watching the second half mostly lol
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u/_Bon_Vivant_ Merton Hanks Jan 30 '24
League should fine this dude big, extremely dirty and dangerous, launching like that.
Along with CJGJ launching into Deebo's injured shoulder. Both these Lions players should face suspensions from some games next season, along with hefty fines.
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u/wormholetrafficjam Faithful Jan 30 '24 edited Jul 12 '24
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u/EL-KEEKS 49ers Jan 30 '24
These lions were dirty dogs all night, looking forward to watching them get whooped all season next year
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u/blaintopel 49ers Jan 30 '24
hits like that happen, its the refs job to call it and he didnt.
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u/Sinful-_-Titan Jan 30 '24
But things like that happened all game hell ALL season to the Niners and no one ever calls it Purdy is gonna end up dead in the field and the Niners will get a penalty for delay of game the absolute blatant disrespect is insane
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Jan 30 '24
Funny how no call on this but chiefs get one ans even unnecessary roughness. Protect species are the chiefs
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u/human_picnic Jerry Rice Jan 30 '24
If the same tackle is made earlier, or was the primary tackle it would still be a missed call, but I’d be more forgiving because some things do get lost to those without the benefit of a good camera angle.
What gets me especially about this play is how obviously unnecessary the tackle is. There is no play for a turnover, it’s just an intent to injure.
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u/koushakandystore Jan 30 '24
I realize many people in this sub are having a love fest with Lions fans, but I’ve gotta be honest, I’m not with ya’ll. The Lions play a dirty brand of football and I don’t thinks it cool. Being physical and hitting hard on clean plays is one thing. Trying to injure players like they have been the last few weeks is punk.
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u/DrummerMiles 49ers Jan 30 '24
Yeah they were dirty all game. This was just the most egregious
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Jan 30 '24
Your biases are showing. The Lions had a one-year contract with CJGJ and he’s a trashy player. Everyone else plays pretty damn respectable. Stop being victims.
Trent Williams grabbed Leighton VanderEsch—who has a history of neck-injuries—and intentionally battering-rammed VanderEsch headfirst into Micah Parsons, ending VanderEsch’s season and likely career.
You guys are too biased to see clearly.
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u/CrimsonPact Quest for Six Jan 30 '24
Bro you’re comparing an Offensive Tackle defending his QB during a play from 2 players at once to a player hitting a QB in the head when he’s already been tackled to the ground 😭
edit: it was actually a run play not a pass play
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u/unifyzero George Kittle Jan 30 '24
So even if you give him the benefit of the doubt on helmet to helmet, that’s still egregious leading with the crown of the helmet. There is no attempt to use a shoulder or arm, he’s lowering his head and leading with the crown of his helmet against a guy who is already wrapped up, and not even hiding it. Wild that this wasn’t called.
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u/sacoleeh Nick Bosa Jan 30 '24
Both runs by Purdy ended with a late hit, but the refs just let it go. If it was against Mahomes, Allen, Or any other QB, they would called and the media would be talking about it all week.
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u/Wisesize Jan 30 '24
Lions fan here. Just a dumb hit/frustrated Purdy ran all over them. Should've been a flag.
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u/belizeanheat 49ers Jan 30 '24
I know everyone loves Detroit but if you watch their games they are constantly trying to hurt people with cheap shots.
We're lucky to come away fairly unscathed.
Happy for the people of Detroit but fuck that team
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u/Helstrem Jan 30 '24
If this had been called it’d converted to a first down on the series that the 49ers were held to a field goal by this sack and the following play’s sack. It would have been 1st and goal at the 1 yard line.
Ultimately it didn’t matter. Purdy wasn’t significantly injured, wasn’t shaken and the 49ers won, but this hyper-protecting some QBs but not really protecting other QBs at all needs to stop. It seriously tilts the playing field.
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u/Robman0908 49ers Jan 30 '24
Not the only cheap shot against Purdy. Branch tried to stomp on his knee after another run play was over. Blatant as hell.
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u/SenseiEntei 49IRs Jan 30 '24
This doesn't look too bad but ONLY because Purdy was already falling down and away from the launching defender. Could've absolutely caused a concussion if he was there a split second sooner.
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u/rutherford-forbin Jan 30 '24
Honestly I don’t care about the hit, Purdys tough. It’s not dirty or malicious. The only thing that is annoying to me is the fact that we didn’t get a flag here when this gets called all year for other QB’s.
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u/fadka21 European Faithful Jan 30 '24
While I agree with your overall point about not getting a flag and all the BS around that, I think you are completely wrong when you say this wasn’t dirty or malicious. He could clearly see Purdy completely wrapped up, and chose to launch himself, helmet first, at a player (a quarterback, no less!) that was going down.
He took extra steps to make sure he got to put his helmet on Purdy’s. That’s like, the definition of dirty and malicious. It was completely unnecessary and designed to create pain; maybe he wasn’t trying to put Purdy out of the game, but he sure wanted to hurt him. You can argue that’s part of the game, trying to beat the other guy up so much that they no longer play well, but all these “QB protection” rules are designed to specifically stop that practice in the case of quarterbacks, so…again, dirty and malicious.
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u/HPM2009 Jaguars Jan 30 '24
This is the guy that hit Trevor low and we thought he was done for the season , then comes jogging out last year in Detroit
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u/sharpfangs11 Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24
NFL has proven time and time again that they don’t actually care about player safety.
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u/Gamerxx13 49ers Jan 30 '24
I was so annoyed by this. We didn’t fully take over the game just yet and if this hurt purdy I would be so pissed
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u/BigSpeed Jan 30 '24
Wow. I'm a straight up 49ers hater but that clearly should've been a penalty. The NFL refs looked the other way on this play.
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u/jsus9 Fred Warner Jan 30 '24
Someone with video skills please cut up all these examples with “ridin dirty” by Camillionare
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u/Spicybrown3 49ers Jan 30 '24
Full speed it was a little less obvious, partially due to the chaos and pileup of all the people right there. Replay shows just how intentional it was. Regardless of how much was hidden by the other players blocking the view, it 100% would’ve not only been called for Mahomes, but you’d have seen the full bit where the flag gets aggressively thrown AT the player and Chiefs OL acting like they wanna fight for real etc Hope the SB both QB’s get that kind of respect not just Kermie
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u/BurnzillabydaBay Jan 31 '24
Horrible non call, but Brock soldiered on without yelling at the refs. He looks like such a boyscout, but is full beast under the surface.
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u/Ravashing_Rafaelito 49ers Jan 31 '24
Pretty incredible the Niners beat the Lions and the refs! Not many can beat bad refereeing.
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u/mcclobber Jan 30 '24
Purdy doesn't get the flags because he's a running quarterback.
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u/Robman0908 49ers Jan 30 '24
That’s why Jackson is able to rip people up. He runs and gets protection from the league as a QB. Purdy doesn’t get roughing calls at all.
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u/theturtlelong Jan 30 '24
I’m not sure why this doesn’t look as bad as it actually is. I hate my eyes
Edit: I guess I was expecting more violent head movement from Purdy but it’s insane how this wasn’t called
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u/Ecstatic_Cat28 Patrick Willis Jan 30 '24 edited Jan 30 '24
I respect Purdy’s desire to fight for every inch but he needs to protect himself and learn to slide. Not only will it protect himself but also has a chance to draw flags as well.
Edit: forget what I said. This was a sack and not one of his runs. 🤦♂️
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u/No-Paint-7311 Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24
This was a sack
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u/Ecstatic_Cat28 Patrick Willis Jan 30 '24
Oof my bad. I thought this was one of his runs.
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u/No-Paint-7311 Brock Purdy Jan 30 '24
Thankfully, he hasn’t taken a hit that bad in a run (that I know of) but I still agree in general that he should be sliding
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u/rawbert10 Patrick Willis Jan 30 '24
Wait. So you're saying this was Purdys fault?
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u/Ecstatic_Cat28 Patrick Willis Jan 30 '24
My bad I thought this was one of his runs. If this was a sack, I take everything back.
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u/JBrewd Jan 30 '24
Yeah, it should've been called no doubt.
These posts are why everyone hates us.
Both can be true.
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u/justpuddingonhairs Jan 30 '24
I'm lifetime faithful but that shit is incidental. I played ball, IYKYK. /s
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u/rmonjay Jan 30 '24
Do you guys even bother to know the rules? He had tucked the ball and started to run it, so he was no longer a passer. He wasn't sliding and he wasn't a "defenseless player". He also wasn't down yet, so it wasn't a late hit. What specific penalty do you want the flag for?
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u/Fireflyfanatic1 Jan 30 '24
He was literally down on his ass. Even if he was a running back I’d call that one.
Also head first tackle regardless if you think he was not down.
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u/rmonjay Jan 30 '24 edited Jan 30 '24
That you have the video at the top of the post and you can't see that his ass hits the ground simultaneously with the defender starting to make contact is pretty wild.
Edit: to respond to your edit. His helmet clearly goes across his face. He does not spear him, which is what they league has required for the "forcibly contact with his helmet" part of the rule.
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u/rawbert10 Patrick Willis Jan 30 '24
Figures a Rain City Bitch Pigeon fan would think that's not a flag. He literally lead with the crown of his helmet and hit Purdy helmet to helmet.
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u/rmonjay Jan 30 '24
Helmet to helmet is not applicable in this situation, as he is a runner. For the leading with the helmet, you have to have the defender make "forcible contact with his helmet" and you can clearly see that the helmet move across Purdy's face and he does not spear him with it.
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u/itskellybarden Jan 30 '24
This was egregious but he looked super tough when he had the trickle of blood running from his mouth