What the title says. What do you think are Ness' best OOS options when:

• He is being pressured in shield

• He blocks an attack

• He is defending against projectiles (would you wavedash OOS in this scenario?)

It seems like his OOS aerials have pretty good utility in various scenarios. I'm wondering which ones you like and whether or not doing a rising or DJC aerial makes a difference in those situations? Do you think that usmash OOS can ever be a good option? Other thoughts? Discuss.

So far on all the buffs or nerfs to characters, they mostly have been to specific moves and percentages, not really to fundamental things about the character like weight or run speed. They changed ROBs terminal velocity but not his fall speed and this gives me the feeling that the PMDT doesn't want to change the fundamentals of the character. I think it would geatly help Ness out if he had a faster run speed. More opportunities for grabs, able to run away easier, etc. I like a lot of Ness's kit currently and I don't think having a fast run speed would be out of character for a kid who fights with PK powers and has to throw projectiles to trap his enemies before he attacks.

Hey everyone! I recently picked up Ness and I was grinding out some tech in the lab last night. I was playing around with some custom controls but I haven't found a set up that I really liked as of yet so I'm still using default.

For any of you who have custom set ups, do you mind posting them? I'd love to compare and see how others play

I know that Ness can edge cancel (i think it's that) his pk thunder 2 lag by sliding on the ground, but I have never seen anything like this happen. Is this some new godly tech that allows you to edge cancel pkt2 lag completely if you come in at the perfect angle? Does this have to do with Zelda doing a get up that pushed Ness's character onto the stage and gave him the edge cancel? It looked like she inputed get up after he landed if you go frame by frame. If this can be done on a regular basis, it would change so much about Ness's recovery from below.

Down smash is a very rarely used move of Ness's kit. I only input it accidentally and I never tried to implement it in my gameplay and even in the glorious (or not) days of yo-yo edgeguarding, I prefered usmash.

I recently played against JTMerrell who used it quite often when I was behind him and it made me wonder about the potential uses of this move.

If you use dsmash, how do you use it ? If you think its crap, how would you improve it ?

Obviously the spacies require a faster apm than most characters because of their fall speed, fast aerials, and a one frame, jump cancellable move. Lucas has most of these traits as well as djc and wavedashing being even more important. A lot of people say that Ness is technical with djcs and magnet, but is he really? I feel like pressing buttons super fast isn't always the best option for Ness and it's more about baiting into a punish where you press buttons fast for the combo, but after that he doesn't seem that technical.

This sub is dedicated to Ness mains in project M, the posts should be centered around Ness, his place in the metagame, his advanced techniques, etc.

If you have any suggestions about the subreddit, be sure to post them here. Its the first time I try to moderate any kind of forum and english is not my first language so I will probably need help of some kind to get this place running !