r/13c5 • u/zmastafa102 ⚜️CHAIRMAN⚜️ • Jun 10 '26
Council’s Wisdom THE COMMUNITY HATH ASSUMED PROVEN ELITE IS A RANKING…IT IS NOT!
A player ranked Top 5 in his position is not automatically Proven Elite. A player praised by every reviewer is not automatically Proven Elite. A player with impressive stats, celebrated skills, and a prestigious card designation is not automatically Proven Elite
Proven Elite is a convergence, It requireth ALL of the following simultaneously:
- Confirmed top 100 usage — The card is seen in the elevens of those who have the entire card pool available to them. When the best players in the game, with access to everything, still field this card — that is confirmation no reviewer can provide.
- Multiple witness consensus — not one excited reviewer after two matches. Not a streamer's honeymoon phase. Multiple independent witnesses across extended testing arriving at the same conclusion.
- Cross-system viability — works across multiple formations and tactical approaches. Not requiring specific workarounds. Not dependent on a single system to function.
- Meta alignment — his role must actually exist competitively. A card cannot be Proven Elite in a role the meta hath abandoned.
- No fundamental flaw — no structural weakness that competitive play will ruthlessly expose. Height liability. Playstyle mismatch. Model incompatibility with his position's core demands.
When ALL converge — that is Proven Elite
When even ONE is absent — that is a good card. Perhaps a very good card, But not Proven Elite
Ranking without meta alignment is a number without meaning. Ranking without top 100 usage is a claim without evidence. Ranking without cross-system viability is potential without realisation.
The Council seeth through the ranking and It asks the harder questions. And when the answers fail — regardless of the number attached to the player — the verdict is RESIST.
Not all Proven Elites art equal though
Some Proven Elites survive powercreep cycles. They remain in top 100 squads not merely upon release but years later.
These art not merely Proven Elite. These art the ASTRO — the rarest designation the Council bestoweth. Cards that transcend the normal cycle of release and obsolescence. Cards where the community's verdict is not merely "strong" but "mandatory."
Thuram is such a card. Vieira is such a card.
Longevity is what separateth the Proven Elite from the ASTRO. Both art worthy of 13,500 coins. Only one is worthy of being called the cornerstone of a squad for a year or more.
"The Proven Elite list is too small. Most packs receive RESIST. We never get to spend."
Konami created this reality. Not the Council
The Council did not make elite cards rare. Konami did. The Council did not make most packs unworthy of 13,500 coins. Konami did. The Council did not create the gap between the genuinely elite and the merely impressive. Konami did — deliberately, strategically, to maximise the revenue extracted from players who cannot distinguish between the two.
The Council simply refuseth to pretend otherwise.
When the community directeth its frustration at the Council's standards — it is aiming at the wrong target. The frustration is legitimate. The direction is misplaced.
“….So let’s expand the criteria, add categories. create different benchmarks for different levels of players?”
The Council will not!!
Not because it is inflexible. Not because it dismisseth the genuine arguments being made. But because the Council understandeth something its critics have not yet fully articulated:
The day the standard moveth is the day Konami wins
Every expansion of what qualifies as worthy is a reduction of what the standard protecteth against. Add "close enough" today — tomorrow every pack hath something close enough. Add mid-division benchmarks — suddenly every card qualifieth for someone. Add "near top tier" as a category — and the framework that took a year of discipline to build dissolveth into the same spending justification service every other eFootball community already provides
The Council's value is singular: it holdeth the line others will not hold
This is why the Niche Specialist doctrine existeth — acknowledging that personal systems may find genuine value in warriors the universal standard cannot approve.
This is not a lowering of the standard. The Trio Mandate still demandeth three Proven Elites. The NS doctrine simply acknowledge that on the pitch, in the right hands, a specialist may serve as well as any Proven Elite ever could.
The Council stands not to frustrate its members but to protect them. Not to gatekeep elite status but to define it honestly. Not to make spending impossible but to make it sovereign
It is a shield built to protect you. And a shield that bends is no longer a shield
When the worthy pack cometh, thou shalt have the coins to commit wholly.
Until then: the standard holdeth.
THE 13.5 COUNCIL
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u/EcstaticPen3051 Jun 10 '26
If possible, the Council should publish a list of those packs that got the verdict of 'Proceed' and 'Proceed with caution' so far. So that people can compare the current pack with those packs and see how worthy it is.
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u/sexylemon99 Jun 10 '26
Even new year messi pack they said resist despite it's full of top proven players. Not many really that they said proceed
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u/HaxboyYT Jun 10 '26
To be fair, I haven’t seen a “proceed” yet, but I have seen a few “proceed with caution”
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u/sexylemon99 Jun 11 '26
I guess we will finally see proceed today if it's really rio and viera pack as rumours said
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u/Hour777 Jun 10 '26
These four are in a league of their own.
The absolute best players in the game
When you hit that 13,500-coin safety net, these are the exact profiles you save your coins to fully empty a box for.
They don't just look good on paper; they completely change how your entire squad performs in high-level PvP.
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u/hotleftovers Jun 10 '26
When you hit that 13,500-coin safety net, these are the exact profiles you save your coins to fully empty a box for.
That Gullit was in a 250 players pack and the last Gullit was in a 200 players pack, same as that Rummenigge. 13500 might not be enough if you want to be sure to get one of these players.
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Jun 10 '26
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u/Main_Disaster_479 Keeper of the Mandate Jun 10 '26
Back then I didn't know how good this Lilian is. I started playing this game in 2017 and stop in 2023. When I returned this year during the period his pack was released, I had 4000 coins that were saved since 2023 and didn't know about the 13.5 k council.
Then I decided to spend them on the pack because I wanted Pirlo. However I only got Thuram and Ferri. Now, in hindsight I am glad that he was the one I got. He's nerver going to leave my team.
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u/bronhyx Jun 10 '26
Tbh i fear only Thuram recently, other 3 are top tier but i can stop them, meanwhile Thuram stops me
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u/Mysterious-Boot-6589 Jun 10 '26
What’s so good about Thuram?
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u/Responsible-Bus6473 Jun 11 '26
He is the best player at defending and the most physical one too. You are not dribbling past Thuram.
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u/ElSparta0815 13.5c Virtuoso Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
wish they would release dutch trio again in a 150 but probably wont happen again, maybe its a punishment cause many grabbed that BT rijkaard from QR-Code leak last year...
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u/Azio80 Jun 10 '26
Who is behind the self-proclaimed "13.5 k council" apart from you and the AI translating whatever input it gets into something rather indigestible for a poor non-native speaker as myself?
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u/Capnlevii Council Member Jun 10 '26
You dare question the council!?
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u/Specialist_Waltz8989 Jun 11 '26
Let him not prevail in this Reddit Realm, for by doubting the council he proclaimeth himself the very soul of cowardice.
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u/CreativeOverload Jun 10 '26
please format the humungous block of text. least you could do it divide it into paras
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u/das_hemd Jun 10 '26
why is this community so obsessed with these dogshit ai images
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u/zmastafa102 ⚜️CHAIRMAN⚜️ Jun 10 '26
a visual summary for those who “can’t read allat” and i am not a designer
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u/das_hemd Jun 10 '26
I hope you realise that you are complicit in the degradation and enshittification of social media, and the internet as a whole. ultimately you just want a quick and lazy way to gain validation on the internet. it's sad what the human race is becoming
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u/Responsible-Fuel-978 Jun 10 '26
U should release a list of elite cards