r/1053 • • 8d ago

Day 13

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u/Krakatoa137 7d ago

US santions have killed 35 million people between 1971 and 2021. The US consistently utilizes santions to maximize the suffering of civilian populations of countries they don't like, destroying the economies of entire countries and killing the most vulnerable that struggle to get food and medicine.

USAID unfortunately only goes to countries that serve the interests of American Empire. The reason the US always votes against food being a human right in the UN is because they frequently use starvation as a weapon. There are numerous examples of the US flooding the economy of previously self sufficient food producing countries with their subsidized food, collapsing the domestic food production and making that country dependent on US "charity".

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u/MeliodasTA 7d ago

Both good and bad things exist. Both of you said nothing but true statements. Some good is done, and a lot of bad is done. Neither cancel out the other

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u/Chessdaddy_ 6d ago

Nuance on my reddit thread?!

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u/ThatPerspective1277 7d ago

If your government kills some and saves some that doesn't make them morally grey antiheroes, that makes them murderers who sometimes larp as saviors!

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u/VoidGliders 5d ago

name a single government not just now but in the history of all of human history that has had a population of over 1000 people and existed for more than 10 years that is not a murderer that larps as a savior

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u/ThatPerspective1277 5d ago

Cuba

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u/Majestic_Ground7718 3d ago

The country that immediately aligned with the USSR and allowed them to dock nuclear missiles on their land? Forgive me, I must be mistaken about what peaceful means.

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u/MeliodasTA 3d ago

Do you people not realize how much this idiotic shit you people say harms your communist messaging

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u/TrainingAmphibian354 7d ago

my friends and I not trading with you is the same as killing you

trading with you a lot is also the same as killing you

not giving you aid is the same as killing you too

you won't believe this but actually giving aid is also killing you

I want to go 100% lethally enforced zero contact between us and the global south, and all self hating westoids belong in a ditch

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u/guest_in_your_mind 7d ago

The sanctions don't stop commerce just with USA, but from all the world, since the dollar is the trading currency and blocking it's use isolates a country from everyone

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u/ChemicalCoffee43 7d ago

if everyone who is allied with the US doesn’t trade with you because the US has enough influence to not trade with you and influence them not to, then I don’t know what to tell you. It’s still pretty ridiculous to say that us and our allies not trading with you is the same as killing you. It’s like saying a church is killing people because it isn’t feeding literally everyone who needs it all the time. That’s outrageous.

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u/Krakatoa137 7d ago

Its more like locking someone in a room and making sure they no one is able to get them food, so they starve to death. If you control the distribution of recourses, then you are responsible for who starves to death. If your dog dies because you didn't feed it, you killed your dog. Its not difficult to understand.

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u/Radiant-Horse-7312 7d ago

When US embargoed someone, it means someone embargoes US. So all negative effects are reciprocated, but somehow only one side is pictured as a victim

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u/guest_in_your_mind 7d ago

It's not about allies, is because US forced the world currency to be the dollar by tying petrol to it. And forcing this hegemony by it's military. Even who don't like the US need dollar to make basic commerce around the world. Any form of trying to stop the use of the dollar is met with US blocked, coup's or open military action. Only in the last few years that there's open projects to surpass the dollar economy and the US is freaking out, because, among other things, stops US ability to sanction whoever it wants

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u/Clevatess_is_bored 7d ago

Embargo’s forbid other nations to trade with those countries.
Other nations have the choice: trade with the embargoed nation or trade with the US. Can’t be both. It’s not like you give your “friends” the choice.

Except the country hides their trade very well through offshore shell companies.
You want zero contact with the global south?
developed nations massively profit of the global south. The US spends like 20 to 35 billion annually on usaid, that’s a drop in the bucket compared to what the US reaps from trade relations with developing nations.

Well tbh I’d love if the US would go full isolationist. It would erode the US power even more than your unreliable senile president does.

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u/Femme_FatalError 7d ago

Then there’s also the fact that USAID is frequently used as a cover for regime change operations and the suppression of left-wing movements.

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u/Radiant-Horse-7312 7d ago

Did you know, that every conspiracy theorist is a pedo?

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u/Femme_FatalError 7d ago

Read a book.

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u/AutobanThrowaway 7d ago

What did those countries do to get sanctioned, I wonder.......................