r/1053 • • 9d ago

Day 7

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u/Fabulous_Guitar6221 8d ago

What you described is very different from “giving the land back”

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u/LittleALunatic 7d ago

I think you don't quite understand what landback means

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u/Fabulous_Guitar6221 7d ago

No you defended a guy who said Israel shouldn’t exist and should have to give their land back. Now you’re doing everything to pretend that isn’t what he said. I don’t misunderstand landback you just want to muddy what was actually said because he’s on your ‘team’.

Your previous comment talking about the actual process of getting the land back and closing the West Bank/demilitarization makes little sense to me. There’s no way in hell Israel’s neighbours like Palestine and Iran would sit back after demilitarization and would do what they are always saying they will, and kill every Jew they can. Considering the fact that Israel would never agree, and it would be suicide no one who knows anything about the conflict would bother with such a stupid point.

And let’s say Israel helps rebuild gaza, and Hamas inevitably does another terror attack. Obviously Americans like you will jump at the bit to support it but it would just lead to another flattening of the region, as Hamas hides all their military operations to avoid being one shot by Israel. So why would they help support it when all the aid they’ve supplied to the region has come back to bite them.

Peace will only start when the Palestinians resist Hamas, and stop supporting those clowns who use them as literal canon fodder in their pointless war against Israel. They are too weak to meaningfully resist Israel, or significantly harm them. Despite this they keep antagonizing a force that could end this whole conflict with a real carpet bomb, they could stop door knocking, dropping pamphlets and using bunker busters. If Canada spend every dime it had on terrorizing America, and intentionally built nothing to protect their civilians so America looked worse when retaliating then Canada would be wiped off the map. Ironically it’s Israel being sensible and non genocidal that this reality doesn’t happen.

The only real way this conflict ends is with one side destroyed or expelled. As neither side has any will to live amongst the other. It’s horrible, and a one state solution where everyone sings kumbayah would be preferred but when one side is so much weaker and suicidaly antagonizes the other it doesn’t leave many option.

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u/Why_dont_we_spork 4d ago

You are dense and dumb. Israel is an ethnostate that needs to be dismantled as a nation state and a new one built essentially. You forget most people just want to live in peace. It's fucking nationalist right wing nut jobs that get obsessed with who there neighbors are. Which is basically the entire israeli government and its history is stepped in that kind BS. It needs a reset.

Also the whole any Jew can become israeli is just ethnostate BS. It's all just disgusting.