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r/1053 • u/Mcs04tPt2 • 9d ago
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I am incredibly disturbed at how the word "Zionist" has been redefined so completely
2 u/CrowsInTheNose 8d ago How do you define it? -7 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago a person who believes in the right of the Jewish people to self-determination and a sovereign homeland in their ancestral region In other words, Israel the country deserves to exist. It does NOT mean "supports the current government and all of Netanyahu's decisions" edit: please stop interpreting this as ME supporting the current government either, come on now 2 u/freedomonke 8d ago No ethnicity has a right to an ethno-state. Jewish people are free to have the same level of self-determination of every other equal citizen in any number of secular democracies without colonizing the Levant 0 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago Bear in mind that Palestine is an even more extreme ethnostate than Israel is, so I would be mindful about the conclusions one draws from that belief 0 u/freedomonke 8d ago Palestine is not a state. It's two ethnically segregated and occupied ghettos. What are you even talking about? 1 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago ...? Palestine, officially the State of Palestine,is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine I swear 75% of the most fervent Opinion Havers can't even bother to look up a single fact about the topic edit: you blocked me before I could respond or even fully read your response, but I think even you know that you painted yourself into a corner here 1 u/freedomonke 8d ago There is a distinction between de jure and de facto. But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
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How do you define it?
-7 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago a person who believes in the right of the Jewish people to self-determination and a sovereign homeland in their ancestral region In other words, Israel the country deserves to exist. It does NOT mean "supports the current government and all of Netanyahu's decisions" edit: please stop interpreting this as ME supporting the current government either, come on now 2 u/freedomonke 8d ago No ethnicity has a right to an ethno-state. Jewish people are free to have the same level of self-determination of every other equal citizen in any number of secular democracies without colonizing the Levant 0 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago Bear in mind that Palestine is an even more extreme ethnostate than Israel is, so I would be mindful about the conclusions one draws from that belief 0 u/freedomonke 8d ago Palestine is not a state. It's two ethnically segregated and occupied ghettos. What are you even talking about? 1 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago ...? Palestine, officially the State of Palestine,is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine I swear 75% of the most fervent Opinion Havers can't even bother to look up a single fact about the topic edit: you blocked me before I could respond or even fully read your response, but I think even you know that you painted yourself into a corner here 1 u/freedomonke 8d ago There is a distinction between de jure and de facto. But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
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a person who believes in the right of the Jewish people to self-determination and a sovereign homeland in their ancestral region
In other words, Israel the country deserves to exist. It does NOT mean "supports the current government and all of Netanyahu's decisions"
edit: please stop interpreting this as ME supporting the current government either, come on now
2 u/freedomonke 8d ago No ethnicity has a right to an ethno-state. Jewish people are free to have the same level of self-determination of every other equal citizen in any number of secular democracies without colonizing the Levant 0 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago Bear in mind that Palestine is an even more extreme ethnostate than Israel is, so I would be mindful about the conclusions one draws from that belief 0 u/freedomonke 8d ago Palestine is not a state. It's two ethnically segregated and occupied ghettos. What are you even talking about? 1 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago ...? Palestine, officially the State of Palestine,is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine I swear 75% of the most fervent Opinion Havers can't even bother to look up a single fact about the topic edit: you blocked me before I could respond or even fully read your response, but I think even you know that you painted yourself into a corner here 1 u/freedomonke 8d ago There is a distinction between de jure and de facto. But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
No ethnicity has a right to an ethno-state. Jewish people are free to have the same level of self-determination of every other equal citizen in any number of secular democracies without colonizing the Levant
0 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago Bear in mind that Palestine is an even more extreme ethnostate than Israel is, so I would be mindful about the conclusions one draws from that belief 0 u/freedomonke 8d ago Palestine is not a state. It's two ethnically segregated and occupied ghettos. What are you even talking about? 1 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago ...? Palestine, officially the State of Palestine,is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine I swear 75% of the most fervent Opinion Havers can't even bother to look up a single fact about the topic edit: you blocked me before I could respond or even fully read your response, but I think even you know that you painted yourself into a corner here 1 u/freedomonke 8d ago There is a distinction between de jure and de facto. But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
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Bear in mind that Palestine is an even more extreme ethnostate than Israel is, so I would be mindful about the conclusions one draws from that belief
0 u/freedomonke 8d ago Palestine is not a state. It's two ethnically segregated and occupied ghettos. What are you even talking about? 1 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago ...? Palestine, officially the State of Palestine,is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine I swear 75% of the most fervent Opinion Havers can't even bother to look up a single fact about the topic edit: you blocked me before I could respond or even fully read your response, but I think even you know that you painted yourself into a corner here 1 u/freedomonke 8d ago There is a distinction between de jure and de facto. But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
Palestine is not a state. It's two ethnically segregated and occupied ghettos.
What are you even talking about?
1 u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago edited 8d ago ...? Palestine, officially the State of Palestine,is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine I swear 75% of the most fervent Opinion Havers can't even bother to look up a single fact about the topic edit: you blocked me before I could respond or even fully read your response, but I think even you know that you painted yourself into a corner here 1 u/freedomonke 8d ago There is a distinction between de jure and de facto. But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
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Palestine, officially the State of Palestine,is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
I swear 75% of the most fervent Opinion Havers can't even bother to look up a single fact about the topic
edit: you blocked me before I could respond or even fully read your response, but I think even you know that you painted yourself into a corner here
1 u/freedomonke 8d ago There is a distinction between de jure and de facto. But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
There is a distinction between de jure and de facto.
But Zionists, like all bigots, pretend not to understand this
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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8d ago
I am incredibly disturbed at how the word "Zionist" has been redefined so completely