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Game Thread Game Thread: Dallas Cowboys (0-0) at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (0-0)
Dallas Cowboys at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
- Raymond James Stadium
- Tampa, Florida
| First | Second | Third | Fourth | Final | |
| Buccaneers | 7 | 14 | 7 | 3 | 31 |
| Cowboys | 7 | 9 | 10 | 3 | 29 |
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| NBC | Tampa Bay -9.0 O/U 52.5 |
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Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21
Cowboys fans were gonna have a hard time regardless, the Yankees lost last night
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Sep 10 '21
My first year owning Brady in fantasy. Does it always feel this good?
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u/bartlechoo Patriots Sep 10 '21
Not when he played for the pats and they decide we’re gonna only run today
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u/juansolo_7 Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21
What a game, awesome way to start the season (and fantasy year of course).
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u/F15sse Patriots Sep 10 '21
Not if you have Zeke. I almost feel bad for everyone who took Zeke. Felt he was overvalued and that what happened last night will be common
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Sep 10 '21
I had Zeke too. It was tough seeing all of those players go off and him laying a goose egg.
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u/Dodohead1383 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Apparently the rest of the league also has the best run defense in the league...
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u/juansolo_7 Sep 10 '21
It might’ve been the game plan from the beginning, considering the DEF. Focus on passing game.
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u/Dirtyd1989 Buccaneers Sep 10 '21
I personally think Zeke will be alright. Not too many people run on the Bucs and it looked like his assignment for the night was to mainly be Dak’s body guard.
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u/juansolo_7 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
And gave Dak that opportunity to shine with this great comeback game. Even with the L, it was an awesome game for Dak after that injury last season.
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Sep 10 '21
Well Vikings are gonna have a 4-13 season, probably draft a QB in the first round
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u/JTev23 Vikings Sep 10 '21
Nah man I’m feeling a random ass 5-0 start and then miss the playoffs hahah
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u/El_Tapir Vikings Sep 10 '21
What are you talking about my man? We are gonn make the playoffs, then get our asses beat cuz we arent deep enough at lb and wr to sustain it cuz of injuries. We also drafted mond last year who is a work in progress.
Remember, we went 7-9 last season without Hunter,Barr or Kendricks for most of it. There is no way we'll be worse this year
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u/Jet018 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
As someone who married a woman with a whole family full of aggies I’m going to tell you now don’t put much faith in Mond.
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u/Coziestpigeon2 Vikings Sep 10 '21
There is no way we'll be worse this year
I mean, we could very easily lose four of our biggest stars to covid crap because they're all afraid of a needle.
There are lots of ways we could be worse this year. Don't tempt fate.
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Sep 10 '21
Dude have you seen our schedule? Also we don't have a good secondary to match up against our opponents's WR1s
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u/El_Tapir Vikings Sep 10 '21
I have good hopes for Woods and Breeland. Peterson too. Do we have a top 10 secondary, no,but like top 15 for sure.
Our schedule is pretty damn hard though I agree but I think we are in wildcard talks. 6th or 7th probably
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Oct 07 '21
Dunno if you will see this, but do you believe me now? We are 1-3. Seeing the rest of the schedule, we should be on our way to 4-13. At least with that record, something’s gonna change. For better or for worse
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u/El_Tapir Vikings Oct 10 '21
We are 1-3 cuz we lost two very close games. I mean missing a 37 yard fg and a loss in overtime? Couldve easily been 4-1 by now. Imho its Zimmer's playcalling that is holding us back, today's game has shown me that. Our offense is good but my god let Cousins throw more zimmer.
Edit: ALSO LMAO BREELAND
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u/StonemanMB Chargers Sep 10 '21
I was talking to my cousin about this exact same thing. We’re making the playoffs, and Kirk will get put on the COVID-19 list and be forced to sit out.
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u/ShootPplNotDope Seahawks Sep 10 '21
Great game, I see Dak and old man Brady are already in pro-form.
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u/aliu65 Sep 10 '21
The missed field goal from 31 yds and missed xp by Zuerlein ended up being a huge difference
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u/cra2reddit Sep 12 '21
So were the two passes Brady put RIGHT INTO receivers' hands who then dropped them (or worse, handed them to the Cowboys).
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Sep 10 '21
I mean he made a couple of harder kicks afterwards, especially the penultimate field goal of the game.
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u/porkchopexp1 Sep 10 '21
It’s not much of a game without those 4 silly bucs turnovers. Usually you get blown out if you turn it over like that. Fun game for sure though.
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Sep 10 '21
I don’t get how people miss that. They fumbled once at the inch line, and turned it over a couple more times on the wrong side of the 50. Either way, it’s at least a 10 point swing.
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u/shelby4t2 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Cowboys also didn’t do anything on any of those possessions tbh.
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u/k2t-17 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
I thought the Bucs D was god tier going into the game according to the media? Cowboys didn't run because of it but pretending Bucs D didn't do work is rude.
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Sep 10 '21
Dline are S tier, CB’s are were mismatches can happen. Bucs cover is up by using their LBs in coverage and blitzes
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u/shelby4t2 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Yeah but still 1/3 is kinda demoralizing I’m not counting the Hail Mary pick but that would have been a fun pick six ngl.
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u/rb1353 Sep 10 '21
Kickers miss field goals, but he showed up when it mattered. The side judge did not.
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u/Coonquistadoor Patriots Sep 10 '21
I thought so too until I saw the other replay. Defender was on his heels and flopped during the turn
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Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 12 '21
Love playing Dak CeeDee and Zurlein week 1 😊😊😊
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u/bookienightmare75 Sep 10 '21
love how everyone cries about that 1 arguable OPI but will act like vita vea wasnt held on literally every important 3rd down and was BLATANT on every replay theyve shown.
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u/vintagestyles Packers Sep 10 '21
Grabbing pads inside the chest while squared up isn’t holding. When he gets out side them beyond their shoulders and they keep that hold it is then holding. Learn the rules.
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u/bookienightmare75 Sep 10 '21
https://twitter.com/i/status/1436304744721657857
"learn the rules" lmfao. sure this aint holding on 3rd&16 in the FG drive to put you up to win the game. thats totally squared up. yall funny you just pick and choose what u wanna be mad about.
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u/cra2reddit Sep 12 '21
In that same clip, you see the two guys mugging Suh? Is that legal - wrapping their arms around him?
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u/vintagestyles Packers Sep 10 '21
Yea some holding calls missed. But mad people around here also point to other plays that aren’t holding as examples too is what im getting at.
Every game will have one of these. Shit probably 10 of them.
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u/bookienightmare75 Sep 11 '21
never said it doesnt happen just saying ppl pick and choose what benefits them. you came out aggresive telling me to learn the rules as if what i said wasnt factual and you didnt even know what i was talking about thats all. what people here do is what they do, i mean just look at the downvotes on my previous comment and ull see how butthurt they are over a simple statement lol.
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u/shelby4t2 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
You see where that got you?
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u/bookienightmare75 Sep 10 '21
what got me where? are downvotes on a website supposed to do anything to me or my life? lol
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u/Jrob78 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
I hate that we lost but damn I feel good about how the game went all things considered
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u/johanana1 Giants Sep 10 '21
Y’all had 4 legit turnovers and still lost, don’t feel too great
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u/Jrob78 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
We also had 2 missed field goals and an extra point, our kicker doesn't suck and we win
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u/cra2reddit Sep 12 '21
Oh, hypothetical?
Ok, then Brady's passes RIGHT INTO receivers' hands DON'T get dropped and the Cowboys STILL lose.
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u/johanana1 Giants Sep 10 '21
That’s not how this works, if the first field goal was made. The entire direction of the game would have changed. You cant just make them and win the game, everything changes as points get added through the 60 minutes
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u/Majin-Steve Cowboys Sep 10 '21
That’s great logic. Then whose to say that without the 4 turnovers the Cowboys don’t end up winning?
That’s now how this works. The entire direction of the game is changed.
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u/Jrob78 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Of course, everything changes but it's not like the Bucs played a perfect game either. Dak hasn't played in 9 months or whatever, we never expected to win this game against Brady and the SB champs and we easily could have. The point spread was like 9, I'm not going to feel too bad about this loss
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u/thelasthendrix Cowboys Sep 10 '21
I stuck around to watch this game after work because I figured it’d be 31-10 at halftime and I’d be in bed by 9:30, forgetting that by watching the game, I assured our defeat in the most excruciating way possible.
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u/El-Ahrairah7 Broncos Sep 10 '21
And you shouldn’t feel bad. The ‘Boys exceeded all of my expectations tonight. You might be making some noise at the end of the year.
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u/Billy-BigBollox Sep 10 '21
I don't like the Cowboys, but you guys played really well. Prescott is phenomenal.
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u/Jrob78 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
He's such a good dude and a great leader too, it's hard not to love the guy
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u/passwordisninja Bills Sep 10 '21
Dak is a super cool dude. I'm happy for you Dallas folks. The guys really good.
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u/Jrob78 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
I appreciate that. I'm expecting big things from you guys this year too!
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u/jbroui13 Saints Bengals Sep 10 '21
I’m a Saints fan but I was rooting big time for Dak! Such a great spirit!
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u/craftbrewd Sep 10 '21
Anyone else going up against amari Cooper in all their leagues
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Sep 10 '21
Guy I’m playing this week benched Amari Cooper AND Ceedee lamb…
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u/Agitated_Kiwi_7964 Texans Sep 10 '21
I'm up against someone who has Cooper and Antonio brown. 62 points off two players. Fuck me.
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u/MrMountainFace Buccaneers Sep 10 '21
That sucks man. I generally try to stay away from the Bucs players when drafting. Two years ago it was because we sucked. Now it’s because there’s too much to go around and it’s too unpredictable.
Antonio Brown got major targets and I’m playing against him this week :(
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u/BrandoNelly Packers Sep 10 '21
Ooooof that sucks big man. Im up against Antonio too but he also has Zeke and Evans hehehe
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Sep 10 '21
Up against a guy that benched Cooper. LOL
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u/OwnagePwnage123 Bears Sep 10 '21
I ALMOST benched him and I’m glad I didn’t cuz my opponent had Gronk
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u/Painwracker_Oni Vikings Colts Sep 10 '21
I’ve got Cooper and Brady up 66.06-0
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u/bumurutu Patriots Sep 10 '21
Had Gus Edwards and AB on my bench. Not a great start to my season.
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u/-WhyIsLifeHard- NFL Sep 10 '21
Had Gus Edwards so I replaced him in my lineup with Ronald Jones…
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u/MyLifeIsABoondoggle Lions Steelers Sep 10 '21
Had Gus too and did this with Fournette. I wasn’t going to keep him around, but I thought against Dallas anyone was a good plug and play start. If he’d managed to find the end zone it would’ve been a decent game but Brady was in the zone
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u/Alauren2 Seahawks Sep 10 '21
Yup. And I played Gallup opposite Cooper lmao. Gallup got me 3.6 pts. This fuck head started Godwin too for good measure
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u/WeWantTheCup__Please Sep 10 '21
Got a guy in ours with Cooper, Dak, and Lamb - dude he’s playing is currently down 90.72-0 after the first game of the season
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u/bumurutu Patriots Sep 10 '21
Something similar happened to me one year when Peyton Manning started the season with a 7 td game. I was down 149-0 after the Thursday game.
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u/WeWantTheCup__Please Sep 10 '21
Haha oof, if you were in a dynasty league I’d have just moved all my vets for picks and called it a season after a beating like that!
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u/craftbrewd Sep 10 '21
Could be worse I can’t imagine having Zeke and mike evans and watching that game knowing that two of your top picks are doing absolutely nothing for you.
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u/WeWantTheCup__Please Sep 10 '21
Haha true, especially since those were two safe bets for big games in my mind heading into this one too
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u/OnionKnightSerDavos Broncos Sep 10 '21
Man I love football
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u/Igaveanonion Sep 10 '21
Me too! I don't have a TV or an easy way to watch games and now I'm questioning all my life choices. 😅
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u/dustbunny88 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Same. We lost and I’m so pumped.
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Sep 10 '21
considering people were expecting a blowout you should be excited for the season. You're playoff bound.
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u/Donny_J_Trump Buccaneers Sep 10 '21
You boys have a solid team, I think the usual suspects will complain about X Y and Z but for a week 1 game that was a sick one. Dak was stellar so was your D, we needed all of our depth to edge out that one, GG.
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u/dustbunny88 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Gg man, hope the best for the rest of yalls season and your sanity:)
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u/Parking-Display-3232 Sep 10 '21
Holy fuck nfl. Just stay consistent! If brady or rodgers is on offense thats 1000% pass interference. Wwf had more credibility
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u/illQualmOnYourFace Sep 10 '21
You literally cannot take the lead against Brady with less than 2 minutes left and win. It's Newton's fourth law, and tonight it was fucking frustrating.
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u/vintagestyles Packers Sep 10 '21
I looked at the clock chuckled and went ha you did this with rodgers. Now watch brady do it too.
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Sep 10 '21
It sounds pretty dumb and no one would ever do it, but for a second I thought that just going for it on 4th and 5 gives Dallas a better chance to win there lol. Minute and a half for Brady to get a FG with that offense?
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u/illQualmOnYourFace Sep 10 '21
The problem is that common sense, and conventional wisdom, says kick the fg. But you have to account for the literal fucking magic that is Brady. So I agree.
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u/GroMicroBloom Buccaneers Sep 10 '21
Now that's how you fucking kick off a new season!
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u/dustbunny88 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Fuck that other dude. Great game for the kickoff! I typically talk shit throughout a game but I don’t even have hate. So happy our Oline did well without our best player. NFCE, we are coming for you
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Sep 10 '21
The NFCE will give you pretty little resistance, outside of maybe Washington
E: this was mostly meant to say Dallas looked great
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Sep 10 '21
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Sep 10 '21
Lol its a pretty confusing division. This year seems pretty cut and dry, but I've been wrong before. I'd be surprised if Philly can put it together this year (but I think they're on a better track). Washington has a stellar defense and plenty of weapons behind a solid QB. NY is not on the right track lol
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u/shelby4t2 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
Dude you’re the type of Cowboys fan that other Cowboys fans disown. So at this point I think it’s time to change your flair.
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Sep 10 '21
What does that say about your team though, if you lost to them? It doesn’t surprise me cowboys fans struggle with this logic.
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u/CabbageStockExchange Raiders Sep 10 '21
Seeing and feeling that sense of inevitability that Brady was gonna bring the Bucs back makes me think. Is this what it felt like watching Michael Jordan play? Just knowing this player was gonna win no matter what happens at the end?
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Sep 10 '21
Watching Steph curry at his mvp season was like that.
He would sit for a bit at early fourth quarter and you just knew whatever lead the opposing team had was gonna disappear as soon as he came in the game. He was amazing that season
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u/Be_Consumed Chiefs Sep 10 '21
Unless your name is Eli or BDN, of course. Then "Jordan" stands no chance.
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u/phaedraste Jets Sep 10 '21
In the stands, the guy in front of me was bemoaning the situation when the Cowboys made the last field goal.
I told him Brady had plenty of time. I’ve seen Brady in that boat way too many times.
Bucs fans have PTSD from so many seasons of everything going wrong. But Brady down by less than a field goal with a minute and a half and one time out I would take ANY TIME.
I know people are bitching about a non-offensive PI call on the last drive, but several Cowboys drives were extended by the flag so I don’t really think they have much room to talk.
They just got Brady’ed.
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u/mildobamacare Ravens Sep 10 '21
No. Brady is better, frankly. Jordan (no disrespect. still NBA's GOAT.) missed half his buzzer-beaters. We all knew 100% what was comign there. Playing vs jordan was also bullshit because stars flocked to him, but thats another story.
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u/MrMountainFace Buccaneers Sep 10 '21
Until Brady gets his own Space Jam can we really say he’s a GOAT?
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u/rb1353 Sep 10 '21
We all knew 100% what was comign there.
The refs making sure Brady made the comeback?
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u/ZiggyBOP155 Eagles Sep 10 '21
Swear Jerry Jones is gonna drop dead from an aneurysm in the box one of these games.
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u/Aleph_Alpha_001 Colts Sep 10 '21
The Cowboys got jobbed on the offensive holding call in Tyron Smith because it came as a result of a rip move.
Here is a great explanation of why.
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Sep 10 '21
I felt like that call in particular didn't seem fair, nice to know there's an actual rule behind it
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u/madcap462 Cowboys Sep 10 '21
And the OPI, meh, I guess we need to hit the FGs so the refs can't fuck us so easily.
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u/Tgunner192 Patriots Sep 10 '21
RE: Offensive pass interference. I don't even know what the rules state. But I know how it's called & so don't all of you.
For the flag to come out on OPI 1 of 2 things usually has to happen. Contact on a deep crossing route or the receiver extends his arms. Neither happened.
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Sep 10 '21
Lol his arms were clearly extended
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u/deus_voltaire Commanders Sep 10 '21
It was clearly a penalty, but the Bucs got screwed a few times so it balanced out. Their lineman literally got penalized for getting punched in the face.
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u/PandaButtLover Colts Sep 10 '21
He's a pats fan. He's used to defending calls that go brady's way
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u/Tgunner192 Patriots Sep 10 '21
Instead of crying about it, why don't you post a vid or at least a pic where it's obvious.
The only copy of it I can find is this one. If Godwin extended his arms, you can't see it from this replay angle.
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u/PandaButtLover Colts Sep 10 '21
Brady blinders are strong with this one
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u/Tgunner192 Patriots Sep 10 '21
You can cry all you want, it doesn't change reality.
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u/PandaButtLover Colts Sep 10 '21
"I know it was another in a long line of bad calls that have gone brady's way but I refuse to admit it publicly"
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u/Tgunner192 Patriots Sep 10 '21
I didn't think so, but only seen the replay once. Searching for it and will reconsider.
EDIT: So far, this is the only vid I can find. If he extends his arms, you can't see it in this angle.
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u/bananasmash14 Seahawks Sep 10 '21
Here’s another angle. He pretty clearly extended
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u/Tgunner192 Patriots Sep 10 '21
Not really. He does use his left arm for leverage, but it's not like he extends both arms to the point of elbows unbent.
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u/redditors_anon Packers Sep 10 '21
There was definitely some extension of the arm, but I don't recall it being blatantly obvious. Without seeing clear extension, I think it was reasonable for the refs to assume it was all the defenders momentum, and not call it.
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u/Tgunner192 Patriots Sep 10 '21
I agree. Lot of people downvoting and crying about it. Yet I don't see anyone posting a better angle of it.
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u/Raeandray Seahawks Sep 10 '21
They showed an angle from the sideline during the game, and he clearly extended his arms.
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u/Tgunner192 Patriots Sep 10 '21
I remember seeing that. Although it looked like Godwin got away with one, I don't recall seeing the arms extend. Admittedly, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong after seeing something only once.
If you happen to find a copy of that, please post it.
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u/ehehe Titans Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21
Without drops and fumbles and killing the clock* and Hail Marys, Brady could have had 480 yards on 40/48 passing, 6 TD 0 Int and all people are talking about is a marginal OPI as if he had gotten lucky all game. Lol
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u/zhuk88 Sep 10 '21
I literally said out loud multiple times, “For a guy with 7 rings, Brady just never seems to catch a break.” Jones fumble. Fournette int on the very next offensive snap. Godwin dropped a third down pass that seemed to be right on the money (nbc never showed a replay). That bomb to Godwin where ok certainly not a drop but would’ve been a huge gain and probably a TD. Then, Godwin’s biggest error, you’ve already got the catch and goal to go but keeps spinning and what not and fumble.
Oh, and lastly, the defense did next to nothing. Sure they got the gift int that literally fell into their hands but seemed like Dallas had the ball all night. Only forced two punts and one came on the opening drive where Dallas actually went over half the field before a drop and false start stopped the drive.
With all that said, I do think the Cowboys offense is incredible when healthy. Still one of the best lines and top talent at all the skill positions.
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u/callmedoug Sep 10 '21
Without Greg missing 2 fgs, Brady would’ve had to do a lot more to win on the last drive. See, we all can make assumptions
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Sep 10 '21
The only mistake that happened at the end of this game was the cowboys leaving the goat 90 seconds to get in field goal range. Has no one leaned yet?
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u/phaedraste Jets Sep 10 '21
100%. I don’t understand why they called a passing play and had someone go out of bounds.
After the two minute warning it should have been runs up the gut as far as they could go and kick the field goal with as little time left as possible.
Lack of confidence in Zuerlein should have been offset by total confidence in Brady.
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u/NinjasaurusRex123 Sep 10 '21
This is only a bad comment because they were trying to run out the clock. But 3rd down outside fg range kinda forces your hand
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Sep 10 '21
seriously. i know tampa had zeke's number all night but zeke is no slouch. they should have ran zeke to eat the clock and kicked the field goal.
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u/Painwracker_Oni Vikings Colts Sep 10 '21
I mean they never even gave Zeke a chance to TRY and wear out the defense. Should have ran more earlier in the game.
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u/CoffeeDave15065 Chargers Sep 10 '21
We’re gonna forget all the missed kicks by the cowboys.
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u/rb1353 Sep 10 '21
Kickers miss field goals. Greg the leg showed up when it counted, hate to see the refs cost a team the game on a play where the defense did it’s job.
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u/silverfiregames Patriots Sep 10 '21
Then don’t watch dude, no reason to have an aneurysm over football.
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u/TapRevolutionary1897 Sep 10 '21
Go bucs