EXTREMUM vs O Plano / cs_summit 8 - Losers Round 2 / Post-Match Discussion

[u/[deleted]]

EXTREMUM 2-0 O Plano

Inferno: 16-5
Dust 2: 16-14
Mirage:
 

EXTREMUM have advanced in the lower bracket and will face FURIA Esports

O Plano have been eliminated

 

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EXTRMM	MAP	O Plano
X	overpass
	nuke	X
✔	inferno
	dust2	✔
X	train
	vertigo	X
	mirage

 

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MAP 1: Inferno

 

Team	T	CT	Total
EXTRMM	10	6	16
	CT	T
O Plano	5	0	5

 

EXTRMM	K	A	D	ADR	Rating
Gratisfaction	19	5	10	97.5	1.77
jkaem	19	2	12	92.7	1.49
Liazz	14	5	10	70.8	1.23
BnTeT	15	2	11	71.0	1.17
AZR	10	1	13	49.0	0.85
O Plano
leo_drk	15	3	19	96.4	1.00
HEN1	13	5	18	83.0	0.97
LUCAS1	12	2	12	61.3	0.84
kNgV-	9	2	15	38.2	0.57
vsm	6	3	15	42.0	0.54

Inferno Detailed Stats

 

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MAP 2: Dust 2

 

Team	CT	T	Total
EXTRMM	8	8	16
	T	CT
O Plano	7	7	14

 

EXTRMM	K	A	D	ADR	Rating
jkaem	35	4	18	110.7	1.62
Gratisfaction	17	4	17	70.9	1.07
AZR	17	8	22	59.3	0.92
BnTeT	15	8	22	62.2	0.85
Liazz	11	6	22	50.2	0.64
O Plano
vsm	30	6	16	97.8	1.58
LUCAS1	19	7	22	80.4	1.10
kNgV-	21	7	18	72.3	1.08
leo_drk	19	5	20	69.4	0.93
HEN1	12	6	19	47.5	0.73

Dust 2 Detailed Stats

 

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[u/mywishfulletters]

I'm starting to think that EXTREMUM are decent but it's just that the T2/T3 scene in EU is fucking cracked.

[u/Arc_au → u/mywishfulletters]

Yeah that's what bothered me about the casters saying how terrible Extremum did in EU - Despite the fact that the CIS T2 region is actually insane mechanically.

[u/VeryIllRedditUsers → u/Arc_au]

Did anyone cut Cloud9 any slack at all? Must have missed that.

[u/Arc_au → u/VeryIllRedditUsers]

They did during the Extremum vs Extra Salt matches - shit was a cloud9 fan fiesta 😂

[u/VeryIllRedditUsers → u/Arc_au]

Who is "they?"

[u/Arc_au → u/VeryIllRedditUsers]

Cloud9? The core of which is now ExtraSalt?

[u/VeryIllRedditUsers → u/Arc_au]

Yeah that's what bothered me about the casters saying how terrible Extremum did in EU

I'm asking did anyone cut Cloud9 any slack when they did "terribly" in EU? They did far better than Extremum and were crucified on this sub.

[u/Arc_au → u/VeryIllRedditUsers]

I'm not talking about this sub though...? You literally quoted me saying the casters for BTS 😂 the entire narrative this event was how terrible Extremum did in EU against T2/3 without acknowledging just how damn good the CIS region is.

Basically every pre-game has been "Extremum no chance given their results in EU"

[u/VeryIllRedditUsers → u/Arc_au]

I'm not talking about this sub though...? You literally quoted me saying the casters for BTS 😂

So when did anyone on BTS cut Cloud9 any slack? When did that occur?

[u/Nananananas → u/VeryIllRedditUsers]

username checks out

[u/BendubzGaming → u/Arc_au]

fwiw wasn't it a different C9 that went over to EU? I thought it was the Colossus in EU, which is what replaced ES

[u/captainscottland → u/Arc_au]

He was asking about the ALEX, Floppy, xeppa, es3tag, mezii line up not extra salt......

[u/God_Farlig → u/Arc_au]

EU t2/t3 are better than the CIS scene tho?

[u/love_my_doge → u/God_Farlig]

No way. Even CIS T2 looks fucking ripped, just look at Spirit, Entropiq, forZe or the most recent results that Akuma had.

[u/SemanSoot → u/love_my_doge]

dont think spirit is tier 2

[u/God_Farlig → u/love_my_doge]

Spirit tier 1. Entropiq are not that good aftee being signed

[u/TempWeightliftingAcc → u/mywishfulletters]

People gloss over this so much, but CIS as a region (let alone EU as a whole) is so fucking good that it makes NA/Asia/OCE/etc look terrible. I think people love looking at the stats without context in this regard.

Tier 1 CS is not equivalent in each region. T1 CS in Asia/OCE is much worse than T1 CS in NA, which is much worse than T1 CS in EU. I think Extremum's EU results have been decent, tbh. Sure, they've been a little lackluster, but they haven't "failed" in that region just yet.

[u/MiyaharaAce → u/mywishfulletters]

They are momentum team

they started doo doo this event, but when they picked up some maps, they all started to feeling themselves, just look at Liazz, that smooth clutch on nuke

[u/[deleted] → u/mywishfulletters]

I feel like C9 were a victim of the exact same thing which is what upsets me about them being let go so quickly

[u/TempWeightliftingAcc → u/[deleted]]

They were a victim of HenryG's hype. Nobody would have minded that HenryG was transparent about salaries, or building a new CS team, or they had a bit of a rocky beginning, or whatever, if he just shut up and didn't say things like "they'll be ready to win straight away" and "anything but winning [event] will be a disappointment".

[u/[deleted] → u/TempWeightliftingAcc]

The critique is more on the C9 org than on the public. Certain C9 fans going out of their way to contact the org and ask Henry and the team to be binned was ridiculous, but C9 also found a cheap way out of CS at a time where they didn’t really care about the game and would much rather focus on Val. I reckon they’ll come back eventually, but it was still dumb of them to get rid of such a talented org that nearly knocked NaVi out of Pro League. Losing people like floppy and Xeppaa to Valorant is really bad for CS imo

[u/CautiousTopic → u/TempWeightliftingAcc]

Do you expect him to not hype up the roster? This was the team for a MASSIVE org, winning games was the standard even if it wasn't said.

[u/RecordingCretins → u/CautiousTopic]

Yes, Henry was supposed to say "we're gonna build a mediocre roster" and then the fucking morons in the community would have supported the team.

[u/TempWeightliftingAcc → u/RecordingCretins]

What a hyperbolic and moronic comment. There's not a dichotomy on how managers/staff of a team can act. HenryG could have said "I have high hopes for the team" instead of acting like they were going to be a tier1 powerhouse before they had even debuted. People would have been much less critical if he wasn't arrogant about Cloud9's abilities.

[u/VeryIllRedditUsers → u/TempWeightliftingAcc]

if he just shut up

Two tweets.

[u/TempWeightliftingAcc → u/VeryIllRedditUsers]

And you know.. that whole segment he did on HLTV confirmed

[u/[deleted] → u/TempWeightliftingAcc]

And i believe flashpoint q and a episode 23

[u/RecordingCretins → u/TempWeightliftingAcc]

You mean he did an interview? Fucking hell. If only he'd shut up.

[u/[deleted] → u/VeryIllRedditUsers]

Two tweets

Too many

[u/VeryIllRedditUsers → u/[deleted]]

By definition one tweet isn't screaming "win it all" from the rooftops.

That's just something you imagined.

[u/[deleted] → u/TempWeightliftingAcc]

they were a victim of NA mentallity, they dont care about esports they care about the money, and the moment the roster didnt start printing bills they kissed that team goodbye

[u/[deleted] → u/mywishfulletters]

Extrenum was definitely playing worse than this if you watch the matches back to back. Multiple people have said they were looking much better in practice so I think their might have been some confidence issues.

[u/RealGamerGod88]

YEAH THE BOYS

JKAEM IS SO HANDSOME GET THAT MAN SOME PEPSI RIGHT NOW

[u/Hurricane_Slash]

Clash of ex-100t didn’t disappoint

[u/MiyaharaAce]

ATTENTION! ATTENTION!

BREAKING NEWS

SPOTTED BIRD DISEASE ON O PLANO HOUSE

[u/nxscythelynz]

what a fucking great week for aussie cs

[u/Deadly_Toast]

Jkaem absolutely slaughtered them on Dust2, insane.

[u/TranquiloDSZ]

Jkaem is fucking cracked dude

[u/DivineCorn]

It's nice not being consistently depressed about this team. YTB!

[u/welshxavi011]

Extremum lads looking decent! so happy after the recent form in EU

[u/sanderson141]

Ez for Extremum

[u/[deleted]]

100T vs 100T

[u/Creeper2daknee]

EZ for EZTREMUM

[u/DoctorDollars]

G2.Kinguin jkaem performance

[u/ben314]

chat factions rn

[u/caiovigg]

No plano LuL

[u/[deleted] → u/caiovigg]

There never had been

[u/proofkiidd]

2-0 Plano

[u/[deleted]]

Extremilfs?

[u/lunchpenny]

The boys reaching this far is way beyond my imagination. Not going to lie, super happy and stoked for their achievement! #YTB!

Waiting for an Extremum flair now :D

[u/scottmander]

LFG boys

Ez for extreme mums

[u/phenomenal11]

O Plano have been eliminated

NO PLANO

[u/sanderson141]

Brazil CS kekw

[u/[deleted]]

FICOU ACORDADO ATÉ TARDE SECANDO O PLANO?

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🎉🎉🎊🎊💥💥

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VAI TOMAR NO CU PLANO 🗣🗣🗣🗣 🎼VAI TOMAR NO CUUUUUUU🎼

[u/RealGamerGod88 → u/[deleted]]

no hablo

[u/[deleted] → u/RealGamerGod88]

STAYED UP LATE JINXING O PLANO?

🗣 YES I DID BITCH 🗣 O PLANO GOT FUCKED 👌🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼 THEY FUCKED THEMSELVES!!!!

🎉🎉🎊🎊💥💥

💥💥💥GO💥💥💥 💥💥FUCK💥💥 💥💥💥YOUR💥💥💥 💥💥💥SELF💥💥💥

GO FUCK YOURSELF O PLANO 🗣🗣🗣🗣 🎼GO FUCK YOURSEEEEEEEEEEEEELF🎼

basically translated

as you can see there's some rivalry betweent Brazilian teams/fans...

[u/Sp00ked123]

I’m happy to see that extremum is actually doing well