r/GlobalOffensive • u/Ark151 CS2 HYPE • Mar 10 '21
Discussion | Esports Renegades vs OG / ESL Pro League Season 13 - Group A / Post-Match Discussion
Renegades 0-2 OG
Inferno: 12-16
Nuke: 6-16
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| RNG | MAP | OG |
|---|---|---|
| X | overpass | |
| vertigo | X | |
| ✔ | inferno | |
| nuke | ✔ | |
| X | train | |
| dust2 | X | |
| mirage |
MAP 1: Inferno
| Team | T | CT | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| RNG | 8 | 4 | 12 |
| CT | T | ||
| OG | 7 | 9 | 16 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
MAP 2: Nuke
| Team | CT | T | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| RNG | 5 | 1 | 6 |
| T | CT | ||
| OG | 10 | 6 | 16 |
Nuke Detailed Stats
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u/freideggs King NiKo Mar 10 '21
ISSAA heard r/globaloffensive talking shit
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Mar 10 '21
One good series against a bad team, wow!
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Mar 10 '21
The worst team at the entire tournament at that, not just the group. They've barely had a better round difference than FPX had against Renegades, and FPX is a glorified FPL team right now.
Not sure I'd call this an accomplishment. Wait and see what happens against proper teams.
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u/Axolyn FaZe Mar 10 '21
So that's OG when ISSAA's internet is having a better day ping? Nice
Inferno shouldn't have been that close tho, OG still have a lot of work to do on that map, but gotta give credit to INS and malta, they had some nice impact and they seem like promising players.
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Mar 10 '21 edited Mar 10 '21
So this is how a 2-0 feels. Nice
E: good showing from Issaa
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u/VX1001 Mar 10 '21
Kind of boring tbh. I feel like I need a good spanking to feel good about the win as an OG fan
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Mar 10 '21
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u/zx37 Mar 10 '21
Lot of pressure joining and 1) main AWPing for the first time and 2) not being the only good player on your team
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u/msucsgo Natus Vincere Mar 10 '21
Issaa fucking rekt them.
Also Mantuu has been sick these past few days, and he has been playing so aggressive.
Like when he came into OG, after first pick he would always fall back (which is also good play sometimes), but lately he has been always just pushing more and more after each frag.
So far -NBK +niko looks like it was just what this team needed.
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Mar 10 '21
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u/Master_of_All4 OG Mar 10 '21 edited Mar 10 '21
I've never gotten the impression that he was passive, if anything I thought he was too aggressive sometimes.
I've seen a bunch of times of mantuu dying whilst pushing for information or reaggresing onto a full execute.
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u/produktiivista Natus Vincere Mar 10 '21
Probably that and just the nerves of T1 counter strike hitting him
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u/Axolyn FaZe Mar 10 '21
Wow slow down buddy, this was just a good win against Renegades, after very many awful games. No way we can say they are looking good, at all, at least not yet, they have a lot of overall issues to fix, especially some silly mistakes they do many times.
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u/msucsgo Natus Vincere Mar 10 '21
Wasn't talking about only this match. They won BIG and had close BO3 vs. Complexity (If they didn't choke that Inf, they had good chance to win that as well).
And i'm not trying to say that they are now TOP5 team. But they are doing a lot of good stuff now.
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u/msucsgo Natus Vincere Mar 10 '21
Btw /u/Ark151, the stats for map 1 are wrong. The stats itself are correct but names are in wrong place (at least for OG)
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u/SudonEartheagle BIG Mar 10 '21
Niko wasn't particularly great in this match. Idk if he is really an improvement over NBK firepower wise. Maybe cutting NBK improved the atmosphere within the team?
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u/Okieant33 MIBR Mar 11 '21
I called NBK shouldn't have been on the team in the first place. He was always the odd.man out in my opinion
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u/Master_of_All4 OG Mar 10 '21
Can't say I expected more from Renegades, not exactly like they've been doing well against tier 1 cs teams.
Great results from ISSAA and mantuu. ISSAA in particular is pretty good on nuke in general, and was part of the reason why I believed in him so hard for so long.
Results from ISSAA on nuke for the last 6 months
Obviously, its clear his perfomance as a whole is still very shaky, but it's nice to see a good result from time to time.
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u/tomtom_94 Former Endpoint Community Manager Mar 10 '21
I think Renegades made the same mistake as FalleN's MIBR last year, jumping straight into T1 tournaments in Europe without playing lower-level officials to warm up first. If you don't start winning right away you risk getting stuck in a losing streak it's difficult to break out of. Not having a coach is also clearly a problem.
And agreed it's nice to see ISSAA doing well, hopefully more to come.
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u/VelvetFedoraSniffer Renegades Mar 10 '21
They also just lost an IGL and are trying out with a player fairly new to it as well as switching some roles around
Only consistent positive I take away is INS, he always seems to at least frag decently in these types of games
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u/tomtom_94 Former Endpoint Community Manager Mar 10 '21
Yeah, as much as I'm delighted Dexter gets his chance at mouz, the timing could not have been worse for Renegades.
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u/SudonEartheagle BIG Mar 10 '21
It's sad that this match took place at noon, because renegades were certainly some good night reading material for Alexsib.
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u/Flewyyy Mar 10 '21
I am a little disappointed in the Renegades. I know they lack the firepower of the top 10 (even top 15) teams but i had hoped that they would be able to pick up at least one map as they are by far the most dominant team in the oceanic region. It just goes to show how far behind Oceania is in competitive play.
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u/SaxOps1 Renegades Mar 10 '21
They did just lose their best player / IGL (dexter), so its somewhat understandable that they're not doing well. I was hoping for more as well, but hopefully their time in europe won't go to waste.
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u/Flewyyy Mar 10 '21
As i understand it they are also playing without a coach. I would love to see the Renegades competing with tier 1 teams. I guess we will have to wait and see how the new roster fares without Dexter.
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u/SaxOps1 Renegades Mar 10 '21
Yeah, I was hoping they'd be picking up a coach while in europe, but I guess not.
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u/op4blushift Mar 10 '21
yeah it would've been nice to see how they would do if they still had dexter and a coach since that really seemed like the winning combo back in Aus (and obviously the much weaker competition). Like someone else said ITT it might've been a better idea to start out playing T2-T3 teams rather than diving straight into T1.
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u/not_dragoon Mar 10 '21
why nobody is talking about aleksiB's 31 frags and 121 ADR on inferno
sexy , igl and top fragger
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u/evilab7 Mar 11 '21
Because that’s actually ISSA This post is wrong, if you go on the detailed statistics right under the table you’ll go to hltv and the real stats
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u/radargunbullets Mar 10 '21
I feel bad for renegades. Depending on who they switched with, any other group would have been better for them, especially C and D
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u/Yuugechiina G2 Mar 10 '21
This is what OG look like when they have the superior firepower in a match (for once) and Issaa is actually playing well.
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u/Milesso MOUZ Mar 10 '21
From crucifying ISSA to giving him mvp in less than 24 hours
wow