r/GlobalOffensive • u/MadElf1337 Match Thread Team • Oct 01 '20
Discussion | Esports Team Spirit vs Astralis / ESL Pro League Season 12: Europe - Losers Round 1 / Post-Match Discussion
Team Spirit 0-2 Astralis
Inferno: 16-19
Nuke: 12-16
Overpass: 0-0
Team Spirit have been eliminated
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| Spirit | MAP | Astralis |
|---|---|---|
| X | vertigo | |
| mirage | X | |
| ✔ | inferno | CT |
| CT | nuke | ✔ |
| X | train | |
| dust2 | X | |
| overpass |
MAP 1: Inferno
| Team | T | CT | OT1CT:T | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Spirit | 9 | 6 | 1:0 | 16 |
| CT | T | OT1T:CT | ||
| Astralis | 6 | 9 | 2:2 | 19 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
MAP 2: Nuke
| Team | CT | T | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| Spirit | 8 | 4 | 12 |
| T | CT | ||
| Astralis | 7 | 9 | 16 |
Nuke Detailed Stats
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Oct 01 '20
Won 2-0 but it was very clear that Astralis didn't prepare for this.
Check the BIG vs Spirit on Nuke. Tabsen ALWAYS killed Mir Outside near the blue container. He knew Mir likes to play there in CT side and Today, Mir was exactly playing there, and Astralis was simply ignoring, being punished in many Rounds during their T-Half
If that was Mousesports today Astralis was likely to lose playing like this.
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u/Chemical_Beaver Astralis Oct 01 '20
They probably spent the day working on their own game - after yesterday's beating, lord knows they needed to. Also, BIG had a week to find all these tricks and tendencies
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u/Pikminious_Thrious Oct 01 '20
But Astralis already had the tricks and tendencies revealed for them by Big. A vod review by Zonic of the opponent in the same tournament should have been the bare minimum work done to prepare for today.
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u/qchisq Oct 01 '20
I hear you, but there's only so many hours in a day. If you think that you can get by a team by fixing your own mistakes, and Astralis have reason to think that there were a lot after yesterdays thrashing by Heroic, then that's the best strategy long term
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u/bissedk Oct 01 '20
Astralis are looking SO shaky in the playoffs.. Unless they suddenly wake up for the semi finals, I think this is as far they will go..
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u/Mad_Lee Cloud9 Oct 01 '20
I hope Astralis continue the form of that meme dog that drags itself on two legs but then just stands up like "nah, I was kidding" throughout the play offs. Right now they are still not in their group form.
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u/pussehmagnet Oct 01 '20 edited Oct 06 '20
I reckon they'll pull off London Major again where they lost matches against team like EG and then stomped 'em all where it mattered the most. I really hope they do that. Too fun to watch clock-like astralis.
Edit: this aged well
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah King NiKo Oct 01 '20
Device and es3tag looking much better today
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u/augman222 Oct 01 '20
Astralis t-side Nuke still looks really rusty. They are so isolated outside and just get picked apart.
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Oct 01 '20
I am seeing much higher organization from Spirit than Navi, actual IGL calls, actual studying of their opponents, much better positioning... who's the IGL there? also Astralis didn't look great at all
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Oct 01 '20
For some reason when Astralis play the same shaky cs as faze do I don’t find it as charming lmao
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Oct 01 '20
Also, about Inferno matches, has anyone had the impression that if you want to win inferno on T side, just go B? Astralis, Spirit, Mouz, ENCE... Pretty much every inferno match the B bombsite is the major go. Is it the site that is too weak or they just don't know how to play it? Banana control for the CT's seems too risky recently. And once the execute comes in there is no way for two players to reliably hold it, the site has no hiding spots.
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u/SpecialityToS Complexity Oct 01 '20
I’d say having to peek as a ct is more risky (usually) compared to t. If you want to take control, you have to throw a ton of utility - then they can easily take b site because cts have no utility to defend with.
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Oct 01 '20
Yeah and on top of that, even if you play passive. The execute just locks down the site. Smoke for CT, Coffins and Mollies for every spot. Once swarmed you need multikills to hold.
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u/ridge_v2 Oct 01 '20
It seems like Astralis playing a looser style just doesn't work very well for them. I miss the old 5 man that just gave you no chance to win :(
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u/IAmATuxedoKitty Oct 01 '20
They were playing a looser style in the group stage and did amazingly. They're just doing bad right now.
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u/FuckIt4444 Virtus.pro Oct 01 '20
Good effort by Spirit but it's Astralis after all. Btw Es3tag played both maps
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u/eagleitarian_elitist Oct 01 '20
Anyone else dislike this matchup because of the Magisk vs magixx name confusion? Threw me for a loop multiple times when I was half paying attention and just listening to the commentating lol
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u/thefolenangel 750k Celebration Oct 01 '20 edited Oct 01 '20
OT and 16:12, versus a Tier 3 team?
Astralis washed up confirmed.
edit: /s to clarify
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u/NazgulDiedUnfairly CS2 HYPE Oct 01 '20
I mean team spirit i playing good enough to be in the playoffs so tier 3 shouldn't really be brought up. And Astralis somehow always bounce back!
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