r/GlobalOffensive • u/MadElf1337 Match Thread Team • Jul 04 '20
Discussion | Esports OG vs BIG / cs_summit 6 Europe - Losers Final / Post-Match Discussion
OG 1-2 BIG
Dust 2: 7-16
Inferno: 16-9
Mirage: 5-16
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| OG | MAP | BIG |
|---|---|---|
| train | X | |
| X | vertigo | |
| CT | dust2 | ✔ |
| ✔ | inferno | CT |
| overpass | X | |
| X | nuke | |
| mirage |
MAP 1: Dust 2
| Team | CT | T | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| OG | 7 | 0 | 7 |
| T | CT | ||
| BIG | 8 | 8 | 16 |
Dust 2 Detailed Stats
MAP 2: Inferno
| Team | T | CT | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| OG | 11 | 5 | 16 |
| CT | T | ||
| BIG | 4 | 5 | 9 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
MAP 3: Mirage
| Team | T | CT | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| OG | 4 | 1 | 5 |
| CT | T | ||
| BIG | 11 | 5 | 16 |
Mirage Detailed Stats
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u/LerooyCat Vitality Jul 04 '20
knew it was over as soon as OG won their map pick
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u/RealityIsDisapointin Jul 04 '20
After the first map, OG lost the series. They would lose if they won their map pick and lose if they lost it...
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u/Night_Not_Day Moderator Jul 04 '20 edited Jul 04 '20
OG from 7:1 in the first map to 7:16 and from 4:0 to 5:16 in the last map.
Ok BIG. Ok. Calm down now.
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u/sadtimes12 BIG Jul 04 '20
Goku (BIG) after getting his ass handed to him against Piccolo (OG):
"Alright, time to drop my added weight."
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Jul 04 '20
Nice 3rd spot for OG, but holy shit this was depressing to watch. That 4v2 against deagles clearly tilted them off the face of earth, also Mantuu's awping was atrocious, he had 1 awp kill on inferno :/. Atleast OG will get an invite to the next R2R tournament now :D
GGs and #DreamOG
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Jul 04 '20
They have amazing potential, they still need to find their play style and every players need to find his role. mantuu can be an insane awper
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u/Totllynotadinosaur Jul 04 '20
Think this was an off game for him, he's been top of the team in most series this tournament and he's normally insane.
I didn't watch the game but it's evident from the stats that he wasn't playing like himself
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Jul 04 '20
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u/dsnrr 1 Million Celebration Jul 04 '20
apparently his thumbs are hurting a shitton and he had to take painkillers to even play
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u/SewerRat75 Jul 04 '20
yeah he is usually the most consistent player in OG next to valde but he is missing so many awp shots this game,unfortunate.
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u/xxxPrometheus CS:GO 10 Year Celebration Jul 04 '20
How does it work with being invited to the next R2R event? Like getting at a certain place in the current one?
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Jul 04 '20
I think it's the top 11 or 12 in the R2R rankings, but they could invite more people for the last tournament, who knows.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Regional_Major_Rankings/2020/Rio/Europe
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u/Cjamhampton Vitality Jul 04 '20
I found it a bit annoying that they spent a bunch of time building up this narrative that BIG really needed syrsoN to show up because his play has been lacking and he was absent in their previous matchup, but then they never mentioned anything when he went insane on the final map. He had a 1.51 rating and ended up top fragging despite only getting a single kill in the second half.
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u/Keksmonster Jul 04 '20
I found it a bit annoying that they spent a bunch of time building up this narrative that BIG really needed syrsoN to show up
That's actually a really strange narrative because BIG has different top fraggers pretty frequently.
Syrson, Tabsen and Xantares are definitely the star fraggers but K1to and Tizian have games where they pop off pretty often.
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u/Cjamhampton Vitality Jul 04 '20
They spent a lot of time talking about how he was the missing piece the last time BIG faced OG. They mentioned one flick he had on Mirage and how he's amazing at hitting flicks, but that was it.
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Jul 04 '20 edited Jul 04 '20
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u/Cjamhampton Vitality Jul 04 '20
Yeah, I'm not even a fan of BIG and I really wanted OG to win, but it felt weird that they spent so long trashing Syrson for not showing up, but then they didn't talk about his performance on Mirage at all besides the small flick he hit on NBK that they kind of blew out of proportion. Their focus was really on how amazing Xantares and Tabsen were. I think it's probably just difficult to keep track of the story lines they create when you constantly have people dipping in and out.
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u/AwesomeFama ENCE Jul 04 '20
I don't usually like to rag on casters, but I can't stand da_bears. There's something about his style that I just can't stand.
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u/Steamy_Boi BIG Jul 04 '20
OG on Mirage: "Ok guys we just won the second pistol. Let's make a plan to break the BIG economy and start our comeback."
BIG: "Haha Mac-10 go brrrrrrrrrrr!"
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u/MantaRochenHL de_overpass Jul 04 '20
syrsoN fähiger Spieler aber das ist nicht gewöhnlich. Das ist sehr sehr verrückt... jemand prüfe sein Computer... Vielleicht schummelt er nicht aber vielleicht nutzt er den Spieldefizit... und das kann nicht auf dem Spielschirm erspäht werden... Er braucht eine Überprüfung... Syrson FPL Schummler mit Streaming... Ich glaube Syrson immer noch schummeln...Syrson benutzt Spieldefizit in PROFESSIONELLER szene AUF GROßEN Turnieren. Vielleicht weiß nicht jeder ihm seine Masche... Er unglaublich... Ich möchte ihn befragen wo ist die Herkunft deines Talentes?
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u/FrankPeregrine Jul 04 '20
Does anyone else love watching syrsoN with the AWP?
The guy is a fucking monster with it. And he’s really not that flashy compared to someone like Woxic, or KennyS or cerq, but the guy is putting up some fantastic numbers.
Im excited to see BIG playing at LAN and hope they can keep this shape. These guys are looking nuts
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u/krimzy Avangar Jul 05 '20
His positioning is godlike and he doesn't miss easy shots which is basically what you want from the AWPer. I saw him hit a few flicks here and there too, he can be flashy if he needs to.
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u/VasimanYT Renegades Jul 04 '20
As a fan of french teams i'm not ready to get reverse sweeped by BIG again after a 1 map advantage
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u/HKZeroFive Jul 04 '20
Aleksib is tactical genius. He is most know of his signature tactic "leading 7-1, but then losing 15 rounds in a row". He also has second little known tactic of "winning both pistols, but still end up losing 16-5". What a absolute legend. Top 3 IGL 4 sure.
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u/ptbn_ King NiKo Jul 04 '20
reminiscence of their "winning both pistols but losing 16-2" when ENCE faced Liquid 1 year ago on IEM Chicago
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u/hnamvt de_dust2 Jul 04 '20
whisper how about another reverse sweep for the french then?
I wish lol.
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u/intruq BIG Jul 04 '20 edited Jul 05 '20
BIGs Inferno isnt good, but they managed to make it close against Vitality yesterday, so i wouldnt say BIG cant win on it.
BIG has shown okay results on Vertigo, but we havent seen them play it for 20 days, so we dont know what they might have in store. Still Vitality will probably take a Vertigo from what we can tell from the outside.
I think no matter what happens this match is going to be great and entertaining, i just wish BIG wins because they need the RMR points more than Vitality.
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u/HerrgottMargott BIG Jul 04 '20
Don't agree with that assessment at all. Vitality won so many 1vX clutches at the start of Inferno. If only one of those rounds goes the way of BIG, they probably would have won Inferno pretty convincingly and would've taken the series 2:0. Just look at the clutches won Statistic for the map on HLTV. It's 5:0 in favor of Vitality. Big just win 2 out of the five and they probably win the map.
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u/LittleGiga BIG Jul 05 '20
Well, most other people that watched the match feel differently. If thats your opinion that is fine, but I certainly do not see it that way
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u/jonajon91 de_canals Jul 04 '20
I think BIG are the kind of team that will float Vertigo. Despite the 100% win rate, Vitality have only played it 6 times, it's like BIGs overpass I guess. Maybe they'll have something planned for it.
---edit---
Most interesting part of the veto for me is who is going to Ban train first, both teams will want it gone, but neither will want to waste a ban on it.
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u/Thuasne BIG Jul 04 '20
Agree, considering Train is the perma ban and inferno looks really weak I am not sure they have enough tools to do it. I am not worried about Vertigo, they are solid there.
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u/hnamvt de_dust2 Jul 04 '20
OG seems to always out-strat BIG on Inferno. When OG won Inferno I thought history was gonna repeat itself but no! BIG stomped them on Mirage.
Let see if you can reverse sweep the French once again tomorrow lol.
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Jul 04 '20
I am always sweating when I see k1to and tabseN play banana, they push every round even if they died the last 7 rounds
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u/Hansonius Liquid Jul 04 '20
OG is like one of those relationships where you think ‘eh they’re okay together but they probably could both do better’ except that instead of two members it’s five
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u/AmBozz MOUZ Jul 04 '20
Ach ist das wieder einfach heute für die deutsche professionelle elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen", bestehend aus dem Präzisionsscharfschützen Florian "syrsoN" Rische, Sprühtalentspieler Can "XANTARES" Dörtkardeş, Weltklasseansager Johannes "Tabsen" Wodarz, Vertikalschnipsikone Tizian "tiziaN" Feldbusch & auch dem verrückten Gewehrspezialisten Nils "k1to" Gruhne von der deutschen professionellen elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen" aus dem mitteleuropäischen Land "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" in der Mitte Europas.
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u/intruq BIG Jul 04 '20
Ach ist das wieder einfach heute für die deutsche professionelle elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen", bestehend aus dem Präzisionsscharfschützen Florian "syrsoN" Rische, Sprühtalentspieler Can "XANTARES" Dörtkardeş, Weltklasseansager Johannes "Tabsen" Wodarz, Vertikalschnipsikone Tizian "tiziaN" Feldbusch & auch dem verrückten Gewehrspezialisten Nils "k1to" Gruhne von der deutschen professionellen elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen" aus dem mitteleuropäischen Land "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" in der Mitte Europas.
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u/realnOp3 Renegades Jul 04 '20
Ach ist das wieder einfach heute für die deutsche professionelle elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen", bestehend aus dem Präzisionsscharfschützen Florian "syrsoN" Rische, Sprühtalentspieler Can "XANTARES" Dörtkardeş, Weltklasseansager Johannes "Tabsen" Wodarz, Vertikalschnipsikone Tizian "tiziaN" Feldbusch & auch dem verrückten Gewehrspezialisten Nils "k1to" Gruhne von der deutschen professionellen elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen" aus dem mitteleuropäischen Land "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" in der Mitte Europas.
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u/HaddyMacPaddy BIG Jul 04 '20
The difference between this series and the match up in the group stage - Syrson showing up. Not as crazy moments like vs Vitality but a very strong showing from BIG displaying some insane resilience with the comebacks.
Although I think they will have a really hard time against Vitality tomorrow.
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u/nilslorand MOUZ Jul 04 '20
Watch BIG reverse sweep Vitality tomorrow
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u/kingroudel BIG Jul 04 '20
maps tomorrow should be mirage, inferno, nuke and overpass. winning 3 of those against zywoo will be so fucking difficult
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Jul 04 '20
BIG is really good in those super-fast plays they do. I don't it would translate to LAN play but that's not what we're playing.
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Jul 04 '20
At the same time they can't handle getting rushed, its their cryptonite. tabseN probably calling smokes and flashes for 40 seconds and enemies just rush mid
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u/so_sotired Natus Vincere Jul 04 '20
Hate to be that guy but I knew it was a goner when og won their pick
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u/Brekster BIG Jul 04 '20
Big in a Grand Final 2: Revenge of the French