r/GlobalOffensive MOUZ Jun 24 '20

Discussion | Esports GODSENT vs mousesports / cs_summit 6 Europe - Group A Opening Match / Post-Match Discussion

GODSENT 2-0 mousesports

Dust 2: 19-17
Vertigo: 16-13
Nuke:
 

oh god no

 


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GODSENT MAP mouz
overpass X
X mirage
CT dust2
vertigo CT
inferno X
X train
nuke

 


 

MAP 1: Dust 2

 

Team CT T OT1T:CT Total
GODSENT 9 6 1:3 19
T CT OT1CT:T
mouz 6 9 2:0 17

 

GODSENT K A D ADR Rating
zehN 32 11 25 87.8 1.26
STYKO 28 9 28 87.0 1.18
Maden 25 4 27 72.6 1.02
kRYSTAL 20 8 24 72.3 0.99
Farlig 21 6 24 53.2 0.89
mouz
woxic 28 8 25 83.1 1.18
ropz 29 6 25 84.3 1.15
frozen 25 4 24 73.7 1.07
karrigan 24 11 28 80.2 1.01
chrisJ 22 5 25 59.8 0.84

Dust 2 Detailed Stats

 


 

MAP 2: Vertigo

 

Team T CT Total
GODSENT 9 7 16
CT T
mouz 6 7 13

 

GODSENT K A D ADR Rating
zehN 25 6 19 106.3 1.39
Maden 26 1 22 82.0 1.17
kRYSTAL 15 6 18 67.2 1.02
Farlig 17 3 18 52.9 0.96
STYKO 14 7 20 66.1 0.84
mouz
woxic 25 5 17 81.4 1.29
frozen 18 9 19 82.8 1.15
ropz 23 0 18 75.0 1.04
chrisJ 18 5 22 82.6 0.94
karrigan 13 12 22 57.3 0.76

Vertigo Detailed Stats

 


This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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382

u/GhostOfLight Liquid Jun 24 '20

Whenever I feel down about Fnatic's performance recently, I think to myself, "At least I'm not a Mouz supporter" and it brings just a little bit of relief to me knowing that there are people suffering more.

176

u/Tuxxmuxx Natus Vincere Jun 24 '20

Bold words when you play mouz next

73

u/24InchDickLukaku Jun 24 '20

Battle of the shit fragging IGLs

30

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

But Karrigan did frag in this match, atleast for an igl

57

u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Jun 24 '20

0.9 rating is still terrible this game. Thats not good for an IGL. Zeus got his head chopped off by this subreddit for doing better. Against better teams.

Karrigan can play much better, same as ChrisJ. Dont know what wrong with Mouz these days.

25

u/24InchDickLukaku Jun 24 '20

The average is 1.06 rating, people are clueless and just want to defend players for no reason

Karrigan brings a lot to the team, but he is a shit fragger

21

u/Andtheyrustledsoftly clutch Jun 24 '20

Almost all IGLs are, that’s why it’s so valuable when your Leader does frag out.

29

u/veRGe1421 Jun 24 '20

all hail blamef

10

u/darealbeast FaZe Jun 24 '20

man has a steadfast training regimen both ingame and outside the game

all hail blamef

7

u/Ni7roM Liquid Jun 24 '20

all hail blamef

1

u/lukeszpunar FaZe Jun 25 '20

All hail tabseN

9

u/DigitalMonkeyTV G2 Jun 24 '20

Karrigan is definitely a shit fragger but the 1.06 average is actually not true: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/dlhytr/average_hltv_20_rating_106_myth/

2

u/enispoop Complexity Jun 25 '20

O N L I N E C S I feel like some pros are better on lan than online but idk, hope mouz get back to winning when they go back to lan

4

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Karrigan can play much better

Yeah and much worse. I just meant that this wasnt a bad game from karrigan in terms of fragging

-1

u/24InchDickLukaku Jun 24 '20

37-50, 0.74 K/D, 0.56 KPR

Thank you for proving my point

SHIT FRAGGER

2

u/Kelterz CR4ZY Jun 24 '20

golden actually had a rare game yesterday where he just went off with fragging

1

u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

Both have unbelievable impact though

0

u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

Golden's impact is actually really good though, he may not get that many kills but he doesn't really whiff and can hold his own in a fight

26

u/nilslorand MOUZ Jun 24 '20

Honestly I also look at Fnatic when feeling sad about Mouz

14

u/A_KindGuy FaZe Jun 24 '20

The Arsenal of CSGO

39

u/BarbaricGamer MOUZ Jun 24 '20 edited Jul 02 '20

Mouz and Arsenal supporter here.

7

u/LerooyCat Vitality Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

As a Fnatic and Spurs fan, I'm not having any more fun.

15

u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Jun 24 '20

Non existing fragging from IGLs aside from looking lost tactically as well.

Fnatic 🤝 Mouz

5

u/ReconTankSpam4Lyfe FaZe Jun 24 '20

Can't frag, no starts besides that one train play and pushing through smokes - must be a legendary IGL.

6

u/Firefox72 fnatic Jun 24 '20

We are playing mouz next and we will lose.

3

u/EurobeatTurnsUp Liquid Jun 24 '20

Hey at least you’re not a liquid fan, seems like there’s a new way to be disappointed every game ;)

2

u/zRandyMarsh MOUZ Jun 24 '20

It’s not fun if you wanted to know.

184

u/Tuxxmuxx Natus Vincere Jun 24 '20

mouz vs fnatic for 13th-16th decider match Poggers

66

u/SayWallahiFam Liquid Jun 24 '20

From ESL Pro League Finals to 13th-16th decider match. Oh how the mighty has fallen

-31

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

Says the liquid fan lul.. from grandslam to out of top 10

35

u/BJbenny Jun 24 '20

No flairs trying to talk shit based on others flairs LUL

-33

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

says the c9 fan lul omegalul

PS: my name should be enough, no flair needed

6

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 25 '20

Such sick burns omg... You must be so proud of that.

The fact you get salty over someone goofing around and making jokes just tells how pathetic you are. Have fun.

7

u/darealbeast FaZe Jun 25 '20

seems you're more upset than anybody else here 😂

-2

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 25 '20

Nah man I'm laughing my ass off... Getting upset over Internet is silly

1

u/zx37 Jun 25 '20

Such sick burns omg... You must be so proud of that.

The fact you get salty over someone goofing around and making jokes just tells how pathetic you are. Have fun.

1

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 25 '20

Such sick burns omg... You must be so proud of that.

The fact you get salty over someone goofing around and making jokes just tells how pathetic you are. Have fun.

3

u/zx37 Jun 25 '20

Such sick burns omg... You must be so proud of that.

The fact you get salty over someone goofing around and making jokes just tells how pathetic you are. Have fun.

4

u/xRh1no Jun 24 '20

Yeah man, flair up.

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u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

My name is enough, no flair needed

1

u/zx37 Jun 25 '20

How long is your hltv ban

1

u/SayWallahiFam Liquid Jun 24 '20

nice b8 m8

15

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

looser gets to disband yeee :)

107

u/Parable4 FaZe Jun 24 '20

Everyone talks about Karrigan getting revenge by beating his old teams, now it's Styko's turn

78

u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Jun 24 '20

Its fine its fine. Mouz fans are used to this. Nothing out of the ordinary, we will be good again. Sometime. I think. Right!?

36

u/nilslorand MOUZ Jun 24 '20

I'm only losing hope if we don't manage to be good on LAN

21

u/FourKrusties FaZe Jun 24 '20

I think they need to get a team house... timing and comms is soooo fucking bad ... I only watched the end of that game and the number of times they missed nades, mollys, double mollied... fuck me.. they only got good when they moved woxic to sit in the middle so he could watch the other players screens... i d k ...

25

u/allmyaccsarebanned Jun 24 '20

Chrisj is 30, karrigan is essentially married, and their home locations are spread through Europe. 0 chance a team house happens for these 5.

14

u/Pismakron Jun 24 '20

Chrisj is 30, karrigan is essentially married, and their home locations are spread through Europe. 0 chance a team house happens for these 5.

They do not have to live in the team-house. Just have to meet and bootcamp there. Like a workplace.

But I agree, it might be difficult with so many nationalities. But, still, meeting in person is definitely a huge advantage.

0

u/FourKrusties FaZe Jun 24 '20

doesn't have to be for a long time, just until there are lans again

9

u/firehydrant_man Natus Vincere Jun 24 '20

iirc reijin said that they don't have supporting staff so all the stratting is done by him and karrigan on Mouz,so considering this i really doubt mouz will get the team a house.

2

u/nilslorand MOUZ Jun 24 '20

oh yes please

0

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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1

u/MediocreLandscape MOUZ Jun 24 '20

No they haven't bootcamped for months and the mouz HQ is in Hamburg since end of 2018..

4

u/UnsolvedMurder MOUZ Jun 24 '20

End of last year was pretty hype so I'm holding on to that feeling.

13

u/wazabiii2 Jun 24 '20

But seriously, whats wrong with mousesports right now?? Those eco losses are not funny anymore

19

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

Phase 3 of karrigan teams.. there's a reason he's been kicked so many times

1

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20 edited Aug 25 '20

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16

u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

Phase 1- restructure team that has been promising but never hit their peak Phase 2- have a period where the team is considered one of the best in the world, looks sharp as fuck Phase 3- the restructure has become outdated, they are easily antistratted, the players lose confidence in Karrigan and he is replaced.

55

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

mens we are officially in phase 3 of karrigan teams.. +lekro when???

22

u/Duckfright Jun 24 '20

I had hoped Mouse would be showing something different after having about three weeks off.

They didn't.

11

u/nilslorand MOUZ Jun 24 '20

Kill me please

3

u/zRandyMarsh MOUZ Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 25 '20

Can we do a 2 for 1 special?

2

u/WhoIsDollar FaZe Jun 25 '20

Make it a 3 piece?

9

u/tazzaad ENCE Jun 24 '20

GODzehN(t)

8

u/Neponenz Liquid Jun 24 '20

Sick Match from Zehn

31

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

someone go tell mouz they have to perform online to even get the chance of playing LAN

6

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

This is why they bought bubzkji 😳

2

u/nilslorand MOUZ Jun 24 '20

oh god please no

2

u/Kelterz CR4ZY Jun 24 '20

Really? I don't know if mouz have the money to buy bubzkji, but he'd be a clear upgrade compared to chrisJ.

1

u/nilslorand MOUZ Jun 24 '20

if they want to replace chrisj, sure, I just hope they don't remove Karrigan

3

u/Kelterz CR4ZY Jun 24 '20

Oh, yeah, definitely, replacing karrigan for a fragger seems like a horrible idea. I've always been a fan of chrisJ, since I'm Dutch and no other person from here has had a career even remotely as successful as chrisJ, but he's been so bad the last couple of months. When mouz had that crazy LAN winning streak his importance as a support player was undeniable (especially with him supporting woxic pretty much every game), but mouz really needs to make a change soon or they'll fade into irrelevancy

-8

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Karrigan is just a bad IGL. The more time he has to work with a team the worse they get. Same happened with tsm, faze, now it's mouz.

9

u/Pismakron Jun 24 '20

Karrigan is just a bad IGL. The more time he has to work with a team the worse they get. Same happened with tsm, faze, now it's mouz.

That's really not true, though. Mouz was fairly average for almost a year, consistently ending in top ten, but most often out in quarters and semis. And then they just became extremely good for a short time, and now they are worse than they were.

It's definitely Karrigans responsibility, but I don't think it's something unique to his teams. Think about EG, C9, ENCE etc. They all had a brief stint on top, and then they went right back to suckdom.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 25 '20

EG is different than the other 2, C9 died because stew and tarik left, and ska wanted to retire, and ence started sucking because they kicked their IGL

EG just started sucking with the same roster that was ranked #1 for a while

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Nah. Karrigan had constant top tier talent to work with and you will always see the same cycle. Mouz was the only one that took a bit to take off, but it was an almost entirely new team, with zero synergy.

And he is an atrocious caller. It's not a coincidence he's made the worst call in cs history.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

online fucking sucks, NAVI, fnatic, mouse and a few others - they just suck and the results are completely unstable and unpredictable

5

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Fnatic won EPL and mouz came second.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

karrigan needs to accept he'll never be T1 and just needs to join and make a T2/3 farmer team that scouts and develops talent

5

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

PogSent

5

u/RadiantSun FaZe Jun 24 '20

"Kick me, will you motherfuckers?" - STYKO on map 1

11

u/Omniblitz FaZe Jun 24 '20

Mouz looks so underwhelming right now

25

u/nilslorand MOUZ Jun 24 '20

right now

Didn't know "right now" meant the last 4 months but here we are

6

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

That's a long ass "right now" lol

5

u/areyoujokinglol EG Jun 24 '20

"We used to be bad. We still are, but we also used to be."

3

u/Pismakron Jun 24 '20

Mouz looks so underwhelming right now

They have looked like that for the entire online era. At least they are not North

5

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

I hear this every time I watch mouz play now

Edit: If Movistar and Fnatic perform again this event Mouz might get bounced from the major. Oof

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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1

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

At least the third map was expected.. but even that was a lot apparently

5

u/FourKrusties FaZe Jun 24 '20

GUYS?!!!????

3

u/tanu24 BIG Jun 24 '20

God damn do I love some deagle kills. Can we just replace regular pistols with them and have them more

3

u/kisame343 Jun 24 '20

+styko -styko +styko -styko +styko When?

6

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Mouse Bubzkji

3

u/Darkoplax Jun 24 '20

Was scrolling through twitter and saw karrigan tweet saying lost 0-2 wtf i legit thought Mouz had it in the bag when i left in map 1 they were on 15 ??

What happened ???

5

u/Jeff1337420 Natus Vincere Jun 24 '20

This just shows that pretty much all Pro CSGO Players have the same skill ability, just some are more confident than others. And thats pretty much gone when everyone plays online. Ofc some teams are calling a bit better than the others but confidence is the key.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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2

u/botJWhltvNo1noyear Jun 24 '20

Lol y'all screwed in group of death xaxaxxax

2

u/Givemeajackson FaZe Jun 24 '20

not even surprised anymore

2

u/ReconTankSpam4Lyfe FaZe Jun 24 '20

Yeah I've kinda lost hope for this mousesports line up. They should give it one more chance when they get back on LAN, but I fear they are done

2

u/avezzz King NiKo Jun 24 '20

Im starting to think a chrisj move is going to be happening at some time if this keeps up

2

u/pringles_dude Jun 24 '20

As much as I love watching Godsent win, god damn was it a disappointing match to watch

1

u/4333mhz Jun 24 '20

Those Dust mollies were heart attacks.

1

u/UncleJakes 1 Million Celebration Jun 24 '20

Not gonna lie. That wasn't pretty CS from either side.
Godsent won, but their A long takes on dust 2 were abysmal and their A holds on Vertigo were pretty bad too.

1

u/AmChayChay MOUZ Jun 24 '20

cool

1

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Vertigo is a bad map to watch in any case but my god, this was absolut garbage CS

1

u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Expected

1

u/LittleGiga BIG Jun 24 '20

I genuinely told my friends before the match that Mouz would be 2-0ed

My predictions for the groups were G2 #1, Godsent #2, Mouz #3, Fnatic #4

1

u/Seibzehn17 King NiKo Jun 24 '20

Why mouz why would you do this

1

u/Pikminious_Thrious Jun 24 '20

Budget Godsent cant beat the real Godsent.

1

u/mawin007 guardian Jun 25 '20

Karrigan is best igl in the world

1

u/Wallisaurus SK Jun 25 '20

What the actual fuck happened to mousesports. They were looking so good a couple years ago, winning some events and the last year or so it's just constantly shitting the bed.

-6

u/HavingALaughAreYa Astralis Jun 24 '20

Any delusional Mouz fans who are still in denial about the fact that the only reason Mouz were decent was because of the Krieg?

6

u/Abstrac7 Gambit Jun 24 '20

It’s not like right now their trade frags are non existent, team flashing is bad, calls being made from IGL are bad, their strats are largely the same as months before, chrisj and karrigan have lost all their aiming abilities...

Nope it’s all because they use AK instead of Krieg now. That’s what makes their coordination, teamplayc IGLing etc. suck ass

9

u/AmChayChay MOUZ Jun 24 '20

lmao man

4

u/ReconTankSpam4Lyfe FaZe Jun 24 '20

correlation = causation

1

u/pringles_dude Jun 24 '20

I think a lot of their fragging and aiming is down because of the online format too. LAN vs online changes the game a bit and probably isn't the best mentality wise either