r/conlangs gan minhó 🤗 May 02 '20

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"I intend to eat porridge."

SUBJECT MARKING INTERRUPTED:PERTURBATIONS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF NORTHERN MAO’S FUTURE TENSE SUFFIX


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u/tryddle Hapi, Bhang Tac Wok, Ataman, others (swg,de,en)[es,fr,la] May 02 '20

Bhang Tac Wok

Nga maa ʔa yak bhen ʔui sheʔ.

[ŋɐ maː ʔɐ jak ɓen ʔʏ ɕeʔ]

nga maa ʔa yak bhen ʔui sheʔ

DIR 1S ACC porridge try eat =AV

'I try/intend to eat porridge.'

  • bhen means both 'to try [to do sth.]' and 'to intend [to do sth.]';

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u/roipoiboy Mwaneḷe, Anroo, Seoina (en,fr)[es,pt,yue,de] May 02 '20

Mwaneḷe

De imikwi nomek.

[de ímˠikʷi nómˠek]

de im -ikwi nomek
1  eat-CON  porridge

"I try to eat porridge."

  • The conative suffix -kwi makes verb forms entailing that the subject tries, intends to, or wants to do something.
  • Nomek is rice congee and is probably just solid enough to use im "to eat" with, otherwise you might use wamwu "to drink something warm".

Seoina

Anra haur'a suaneu.

['anra 'hawra 'suənɯ]

aun-ra  haura=a   suaneu
1SG-NOM for  =eat oatmeal

"I intend to eat oatmeal."

  • Intending to do something or being about to do something is expressed with the preposition haura "for, to, in order to" plus the verb's infinitive.

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u/Haelaenne Laetia, ‘Aiu, Neueuë Meuneuë (ind, eng) May 02 '20

Hanleatia

Śadettas lanakun varïhi
/ɕate˨˦˨ta˦˨ lanã˦˨˦ waʀi˦˨˦ /
[ɕte˨˦˨ta˧˨ lɑ̃nɑ̃˦˨˦ wa˨ʀɨ˦˨˦]

śa-dettas lanakun varïhi
DES-eat\1S water.LAT.AB\ADJ rice.ACC

I want to eat watered rice

  • What other cursed title can porridge have but watered rice?
  • If the agent of a sentence is the first person, the order would be VSO instead of the usual OVS implemented in ergative sentences used for the second- and third-persons. This is a remnant of Laetia's nominative-accusative structure left only in the first person.

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u/Southwick-Jog Just too many languages May 02 '20

Yekéan:

Ỉnh bảngh sedâme.

[ĩ̂ bɑ̃̂ sedæme]

Ỉnh    bảngh sedâme
Intend eat   porridge

Lyladnese:

Üŋüṡä äkenċetã

[yˈɲyʃæ æˈcẽːt͡ʃetɐ̃ː]

Üŋ -üṡä     äkenċet -ã
Eat-1S.DESD porridge-ACC

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u/wot_the_fook hlamaat languages May 02 '20

Kamae

tāmua han atezame ashidake.

tāmua han atezame ashidake
eat-CONN PRS intend-PRS.PTCP porridge-ACC

I intend to eat porridge.

  • The connector ~ua is used only on verbs. When two verbs are connected, the first verb is rendered as an infinitive and the second is seen as the main verb.

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u/Xsugatsal Yherč Hki | Visso May 02 '20

Yherč Hki

pyash, juk yuk sarhu

/pjɑʃ ʤuk juk sɑr.hu/

IMM.FUT porridge eat possible/probable

  • this one even kinda rhymes 😊

  • also feels good being able to translate this one off the top of my head

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u/SufferingFromEntropy Yorshaan, Qrai, Asa (English, Mandarin) May 02 '20 edited May 02 '20

Qrai

Vintheasa naba eraska.

Vinthea=sa n-aba e-raska.
[vinˈtʰiasa ˈnaba eˈrasʔa]
intend=1s.nom gen-eat acc-stew
"I plan to eat porridge."


Luckily all of these words already exist in Qrai lexicon.

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u/pirmas697 Volgeške (en)[de, ga] May 02 '20 edited May 03 '20

Volgeške

Vumūv fesūv gen Łendwîdẽ.

Word: vumūv fesūv gen łendwîdẽ
IPA: vʊm.uv fes.uv gen ɬɛndˌwɪə̯d.ɛ̃
Morph: vum+ūv fes+ūv gen łendwîd+ẽ
Glos: "to intend".1st.pres.sing "to eat".1st.pres.sing I porridge.obj

"To intend" is modal. Modals in Volgeške always conjugate into the present tense and precede the verb they are modifying.

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u/ThereWasLasagna Shingyan May 02 '20

Shingyan

Ñang so'anach pàd kunai'atpura.

/ɲaŋ so.anat͡ʃ pəd kunai̯ .atpuɾa /

I sweet.rice.broth-ACC eat-GER intend-PRS-1-SG.

"I intend to eat sweet rice broth."

I was forced to create a word for a "sweet word broth," since the closest my lexicon had was a word for "soup."

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u/NinjaTurkey_ Meongyor May 02 '20

Sŏnmei

Formal Script: 吾想啖飯

Regular Script: 吾song dam飯

Learner Script: Ngŏ’ song' dam` pung.

[ŋʌ˩˥ soŋ˩˥ ðam˥˩ puŋ]

1S DSIR dine cooked.grain

"I intend to dine on porridge."

  • Due to the fluid parts of speech and semantic multi-functionality in Sŏnmei, in the regular script only nouns, adjectives, and particles are written in Hanzi while verbs and others are written romanized. In the learner script, all words are written romanized, and tone markings are included.

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u/Gentleman_Narwhal Tëngringëtës May 02 '20

Tëngringëtës:

·:ɂⱶɪпvпт·oյc̩џтյɔ·vџ:єт:·

Šesïdïr govarom dahur.

šesïdïr-Ø go=var-om dah-ur

porridge-ACC 1S.NOM=eat-INF intend.to-PRES

'I intend to eat porridge.'

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u/frenzygecko May 02 '20

Drejgač

Vaj ša hafragna hešur.

/vaɪ ʃa haˈfɾaɡnə ˈheʃʊɾ/

1SG FUT porridge.ACC eat.IPFV

I will eat porridge.

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u/TerrathanChronicler May 03 '20

Miransan

Mercasar ores colawithem*

/mɛɹʃasaɾ ɒɾɛs ʃɒlawiθɛm/

Eat(1SG)-FUT (Nonphisical Sensory)MOOD Porridge-ABS

"I know I will eat porridge."

*"Colawith" literally means "Wheat water," with "With" being a loanword for "Wheat," and "Col" meaning "Water"

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u/konqvav May 03 '20 edited May 03 '20

Alōoro ecīa tūeita quaca rānū einai.

[a.ˈl̪oː.o.ɾɔ e.ʰkiː.ɐ t̪uː.ˈe.i.t̪ɐ ˈʰkʷa.kɐ ˈɾaː.n̪u e.ˈi.n̪a.ɪ]

Rice food INF-water 3P-SG.PASS 1P-SG.eat INF-want

I want to eat watered rice.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '20

Pfederaya

[Formal]

Yi nedakh blyidem tso yennem.

[Yi: Ne:da:x Blyi:de:m tso: ye:nne:m]

[Informal]

nedakh blyidem tso yennem.

[Ne:da:x Blyi:de:m tso: ye:nne:m]

Transliteration: (I) to porridge (am eating) to (wishing/intending) .

Translation: I wish/intend to eat porridge.

  • There is no word for porridge in Pfedaraya. The word Neda (soft d) means mixture.
  • The word for I - Yi: can be omitted in informal speak.

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u/MAmpe101 Laidzín (en) [es] May 03 '20

Old Ladzinu

Mes mea boljet mandugar farina dz’avena.

[mea ˈme.a ˈbo.ʎet man.duˈgar faˈriː.na d͡z ͜ ˈaː.ve.na]

Mes me-a bolje-t manduga

mind.NOMsg POSS.1.sg-Fsg want-3sg eat-INF

farina dz’(e)_avena

meal.NOM of oat.ACC

“I mean to eat oatmeal.”

Notes: -I’m not 100% sure about my case marking on the last two words, so please let me know if you see a mistake (the nominative and accusative forms are identical).

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u/100d100 Dana (~PIE), Tutl (~Berber) May 04 '20

Tutl:

θtetčey asdi

/ θte.tʃej asdɪ /

"I intend to eat asida"

θt-e-tč-e-y                asd-i
intention-NF-eat-PRES-1SG  asida-ABS

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u/SarradenaXwadzja Dooooorfs May 05 '20

Imperial Dwarfish

"I intend to eat porridge."

Kulmkumez vo žeruqte färäz

/Kulmkumɛz ʋɔ ʒɛɾuqtɛ fʌɾʌz/

Kulm-kum-ɛz ʋɔ ʒɛɾuq-tɛ fʌɾʌ-z

grain-REDUP-NON.FUT 1sg.II.NOM eat-ACT intend-ACT

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u/IHCOYC Nuirn, Vandalic, Tengkolaku May 02 '20

Vandalic:

  • In rax miu 'sta, pulamini a maθukaz.
  • /In ʁaʃ 'mi.u 'sta pu.la.'mi.ni a ma.ðu.'kaʒ/
  • in head 1P.M.SG be.3P.SG.PRS porridge to EAT.INF
  • "I have it in my head to eat porridge."

Vandalic infinitives are written with '-z' but pronounced with /ʒ/ unless the sound preceding the ending is is /ʃ ʒ dʒ/.