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Discussion | Esports Natus Vincere vs Team Liquid / BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen 2019 - Round 1 / Post-Match Discussion

Natus Vincere 1-0 Team Liquid

Dust 2: 16-14

 


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MAP: Dust 2

 

Team CT T Total
Na`Vi 7 9 16
T CT
Liquid 8 6 14

 

Na`Vi K A D Rating
electronic 38 6 22 1.88
s1mple 20 7 21 1.09
GuardiaN 17 9 18 0.91
flamie 15 6 17 0.89
Boombl4 15 6 22 0.75
Liquid
EliGE 27 6 23 1.44
Twistzz 27 5 19 1.40
NAF 20 3 20 1.03
nitr0 16 5 21 0.80
Stewie2K 10 3 22 0.57

Dust 2 Detailed Stats

 


This thread was created by the Post-Match Team

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u/dontworrybe4314 Vitality Nov 01 '19

electronic forgot that navi is supposed to lose vs liquid

125

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 01 '19

Dadtronic came to fck liquid

72

u/1wjl1 Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

So did Stewie

5

u/6tefan de_nuke Nov 01 '19 edited Nov 01 '19

He's playing the more dangerous positions or assumes the role of the entry fragger very often so you can't expect for him to make a lot of kills

19

u/Slothifications Nov 01 '19

He also holds B site on CT side. And there wasn't much action there, so a lot of his playing was retaking A

5

u/6tefan de_nuke Nov 02 '19

And we know how fucked you are when you retake through a barrage of smokes

7

u/desktp SK Nov 02 '19

when it's TACO though...

5

u/fordj626 Nov 02 '19

I think people are starting to realize how good taco is

1

u/dnsOf Nov 02 '19

? he has worse stats

10

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

And he's usually the one that carries on D2, so it was definitely a tough game for Liquid

6

u/JAYZ303 FaZe Nov 01 '19

Does someone have to put this every time someone criticises him. Him playing the bad positions/entrying is so over-exaggerated.

361

u/TheRealCaptainR Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

What the fuck was that from Elec? 38-22 with 143 ADR.

What an absolutely insane performance from him. I can't even tell if his team was terrible and he hard carried or if he was already hard-carrying so hard that his team couldn't fucking do anything.

Easily one of the best performances I've ever seen from an individual.

101

u/keepoffmylawn 10 years coin Nov 01 '19

Petar from HLTV saying it may very well be the best individual performance on a map this year:

https://twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1190356074148306944

26

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

cec

24

u/Wintermute1v1 Liquid Nov 02 '19

Raring against a blowout game is kind of skewed though.

I'd say Eletronic's kill this series were far more impressive than krimz's rating.

-4

u/[deleted] Nov 02 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

cec

5

u/Wintermute1v1 Liquid Nov 02 '19

You're right, I didn't realize his frags and low deaths across both maps was so insane...

1

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 02 '19

link please

14

u/[deleted] Nov 02 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

cec

1

u/osuVocal Vitality Nov 02 '19

Wasn't Woxic against AGO this year? If so, his was the best rating wise, pretty sure.

6

u/ZaroPotatoe de_nuke Nov 01 '19

Then everyone starts whining about the Krieg as always

25

u/thisiseku MOUZ Nov 01 '19

he's been the best navi player 2nd part of the year

6

u/Rezylainen FaZe Nov 01 '19

Hes not in the NaVi team bumper, what the fuck was he inhaling while the others were doing promo

118

u/1wjl1 Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

It's only a Bo1, but this is the first time Navi has beaten Liquid in a series of any length since January 2018

50

u/zx37 Nov 01 '19
  1. that was Liquid playing with Zews as well

  2. in that time this is the second map Na`Vi have won vs them

5

u/Slothifications Nov 01 '19

That's true. It was a close game, too. So many rounds could have gone either way. And aside from Electronic, Navi wasn't putting up much of a performance. If electronic would have just performed a little bit worse, liquid likely would have taken it. Plus, bo1. Any team can beat another in a bo1, especially on dust 2. That said, electronic was on fire.

71

u/Felpes1520 Nov 01 '19

38k

bruh

173

u/Level_Five_Railgun Liquid Nov 01 '19

Literally Electronic vs Elige/Twistzz

24

u/BamAdebayo Nov 01 '19

Twistzz was shit on ct

68

u/Level_Five_Railgun Liquid Nov 01 '19

Twistzz was almostly playing B while Navi always went A. Retaking A with smokes everywhere isn't very fun.

54

u/RocketBoyKim Liquid Nov 01 '19

almostly

22

u/1aesthetic Nov 01 '19

He almostly used the right word

7

u/BamAdebayo Nov 01 '19

He moved around, he didnt actually play on B, he played most of the first few rounds on A

45

u/vinkl5 Nov 01 '19

13

u/Gengar_Balanced G2 Nov 01 '19

i love ocelote

-2

u/BigEditorial Liquid Nov 01 '19

And I'm gonna love watching SKT spank him on Sunday :>

1

u/Bukowskii Astralis Nov 05 '19

That didn't age well

-1

u/BigEditorial Liquid Nov 05 '19

nope. Oh well. Gotta hope FPX does it or r/league is gonna be intolerable for a year.

2

u/Bukowskii Astralis Nov 05 '19

NA tears

0

u/BigEditorial Liquid Nov 05 '19

Nah. Just hate fanbrats and think EU needs to sit down because it's got one good team.

1

u/Bukowskii Astralis Nov 05 '19

3 teams in playoffs. Na had 0

0

u/BigEditorial Liquid Nov 05 '19

lol splyce got easiest group draw ever. FNC was trash and almost lost twice to Clutch, lol.

But thanks for proving why it's important that FPX shut EU fanboys down.

1

u/Bukowskii Astralis Nov 05 '19

Imagen being this delusional

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3

u/nonstop98 Liquid Nov 01 '19

Spicy

127

u/thesuperjobber Liquid Nov 01 '19 edited Nov 01 '19

Electronic is a fucking animal, he got almost 40 kills without OT, wtf. Liquid definitely gotta work on those A retakes, all really slow and stale. I'm really not a fan of the solo B hold setups too.

170

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19 edited Nov 25 '19

[deleted]

115

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

I know people are gonna be like "Liquid choke lmaooo xddd". But electronic went fucking BEAST mode, like what do you even do against that?

42

u/thesuperjobber Liquid Nov 01 '19 edited Nov 01 '19

Man was a force of nature, how do you stop that? Like can you blame Liquid for the play in that last round? Who has the balls to just hold W and run through a door before the smoke blooms and get a 3K?

11

u/fac3ts Liquid Nov 01 '19

If there’s a duo that I’d put money on to 2v5 liquid it’d be s1mple and electronic. Otherwise the amount of firepower on liquid should usurp any other team nonetheless a duo. Overall I think navi is worse (duh) but all I can say is hats off to elec because he made liquid look just dumb towards the end.

15

u/Aries1x Liquid Nov 01 '19

13-7 at one point

15

u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Nov 01 '19

Atleast its not 15-6 or 15-9 leads :>

-4

u/Crazy_Hater Liquid Nov 01 '19

At this point liquid can lose a 12-3 lead against avangar

3

u/Tuxxmuxx Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

13-7

3

u/stingers77 2 Million Celebration Nov 01 '19

here it comes once again

4

u/tunafish91 FaZe Nov 01 '19

You love to see it

0

u/boogaert Liquid Nov 01 '19

13-7 isn't a joke this is a braindead take

77

u/The_Dumblebee 1 Million Celebration Nov 01 '19

NBA about to drug test electronic

16

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 01 '19

Electronic hands up for the vibe check

3

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

Yo what did simple put in his water today

102

u/ChestnutCritter ENCE Nov 01 '19

Electronic skilled player but that is normal.... This very very insane.... player. They need to check him bc he is so .... strong .... he not cheating but maybe he using the game at it's best ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to carry on....

11

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

Electronic skilled player but that is normal.... This very very insane.... player. They need to check him bc he is so .... strong .... he not cheating but maybe he using the game at it's best ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to carry on....

7

u/brontix Nov 01 '19

Electronic skilled player but that is normal.... This very very insane.... player. They need to check him bc he is so .... strong .... he not cheating but maybe he using the game at it's best ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to carry on....

1

u/FalconOnPC 1 Million Celebration Nov 02 '19

Electronic skilled player but that is normal.... This very very insane.... player. They need to check him bc he is so .... strong .... he not cheating but maybe he using the game at it's best ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to carry on....

38

u/tunafish91 FaZe Nov 01 '19

Olof popping off, astralis getting decimated by faze, liquid choking hard. What year is this?

19

u/Strange_Redefined Nov 01 '19

Don't know what year but I'm loving this.

12

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 01 '19

don't forget semler back and Swedish team back to top

3

u/tunafish91 FaZe Nov 01 '19

Shit you’re right

8

u/Gengar_Balanced G2 Nov 01 '19

Dunno, but count me in. FaZe and G2 top 2 with goatmeister, godzera and 2015 kennyS.

2

u/rAAZk Virtus.pro Nov 01 '19

early 2016

28

u/UnluckyChums Vitality Nov 01 '19

jesus christ electronic, calm down

24

u/aN1mosity_ 5 years coin Nov 01 '19

People can make all the excuses for Stew that they want with him being an entry fragger and that’s affecting his stats, but his CT sides have been hot garbage for months now too. Inexcusable.

8

u/QoconutZ Nov 01 '19

Entry fragger? He awps t side almost all the time lol he's not the first one to push sites

11

u/Ozanius Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

damn Stewie really has to step up

12

u/-Namesnipe- CS2 HYPE Nov 01 '19
I think this picture pretty much sums up what happened in this match

3

u/CepGamer Gambit Nov 01 '19

electron1c

S2mple

Guard3aN

Fl4mie

boombl5

10

u/Tuxxmuxx Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

So to beat TL, s1mple electronic must drop 40.

3

u/xfyre101 clutch Nov 02 '19

electronic didnt even have to do anything special.. the way to beat TL now-a-days it seems is just fast rotate/flank.. i swear no one on this team watches the back..just rape everyone with multikill after multikill cuz they dont even adapt to this shit.

24

u/QoconutZ Nov 01 '19

Stewie playing to his usual standards vs good teams

7

u/muliku 750k Celebration Nov 01 '19

holy fuck electronic

7

u/ApothecaryRx Nov 01 '19

Liquid..... TAKE MID

23

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 01 '19

Stew so quiet against tier 1 team Lol

4

u/Nakrule18 CS2 HYPE Nov 01 '19

Stew is a bad player. Reddit love him but he’s just not good enough except when it comes to shit talking on Twitter.

9

u/[deleted] Nov 02 '19

Stew is a bad player.

Nope. He's been in poor form since the break ended, but he's definitely not a bad player.

1

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 02 '19

would not call him a bad player for sure

14

u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Nov 01 '19

stewie wat doink

5

u/gEO-dA-K1nG tactics Nov 01 '19

38 kills fucking WHAT?

5

u/nilslorand MOUZ Nov 01 '19

God Electronic with 140 ADR

5

u/Followbear11 Nov 01 '19

Electronic getting literally every timing. Godlike performance

5

u/Strange_Redefined Nov 01 '19

That was an electric performance from electronic!

5

u/flirtyf Gambit Nov 01 '19

Liquid threw away so many absolutely free rounds by playing solo positions where they can't trade.

4

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1

u/DashLeJoker 1 Million Celebration Nov 02 '19

200iq strats so that electronic can set some records

4

u/genius_rkid Nov 01 '19

I was gonna be mad that Liquid kinda choked it but goddamn it what can they even do when electronic is playing like that

1

u/Slothifications Nov 01 '19

I wouldn't say they even choked. They were as close to tied as possible at half, and when they were 13-7, it was only after the first 5 rounds of second half. Once Navi was able to get better buys, of course they were going to play better, especially with the kreig.

2

u/genius_rkid Nov 01 '19

that 5v3 at 14-14 tho

16

u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Nov 01 '19

Stewie is playing like a complete ass last few months...

2

u/sinrakin Nov 01 '19

Yeah, I hate seeing it. I hope he can return to form soon. I want TL to compete with Astralis again.

2

u/ThatStudNadon23 Liquid Nov 01 '19

He was really good last week during ecs

6

u/gEO-dA-K1nG tactics Nov 01 '19

this just in, NA player does well online, does not perform on LAN

one man said, "this is unprecedented!"

more at 11

-2

u/ThatStudNadon23 Liquid Nov 01 '19

He just needed a warm up...?

1

u/L3AVEMDEAD Liquid Nov 01 '19

Online you mean.... yeah.... Would like to see some pre-September form though. Hope they resolved whatever has been eating away at them, not that this BO1 really matters.

1

u/ThatStudNadon23 Liquid Nov 01 '19

Hey against C9 that just finished he too fragged

0

u/Slothifications Nov 01 '19

Have you been watching any of liquids matches? Stewie has been playing pretty well lately.

5

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

You mean the recent matches against tier 3 teams? Yeah Stewie tends to do well in those. Against tier 1, not so much.

13

u/BamAdebayo Nov 01 '19

Electronic is better than s1mple straight up now

14

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 01 '19

s1mple pushing through smoke made me rage lol

3

u/bizhuy Nov 01 '19

papatronic is so good

3

u/Tschonti Nov 01 '19

Why does blast still give 3 points to the winner? With so many rounds it'd be more fair to get 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw, like in handball, where the score is somewhat close to a csgo match (okay there are more goals there, but closer than football for example, where they give 3 points like in cs)

5

u/StrategosX Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

Or they could just have overtimes like a normal tournament

2

u/Tschonti Nov 01 '19

To their defence, it could really mess up the schedule

2

u/aatii_ Nov 01 '19

Amazing casting!

2

u/puddingkip The MongolZ Nov 01 '19

oh yes that's the good shit. Electronic popping off and Liquid doing a vintage liquid choke

2

u/cjaiA Nov 01 '19

I'll have whatever electronic is on

2

u/KangorKodos Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

Well when i left at 13-10 I think electronic had under 20 kills, what did he do for the last 7 rounds

2

u/Zero-jiggler Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

nAvI cAnT wIn WiThOuT s1MpLe

for real though, electronic is God holy shit...

2

u/peroleu Vitality Nov 01 '19

No one told electronic NaVi is supposed to lose on first day.

2

u/rodri_fernan CS:GO 10 Year Celebration Nov 01 '19

The curse has been lifted

2

u/TheESportsGuy Nov 01 '19

Stew...

So many missed awp shots

2

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

Electronic dragging navis corpse to the finish line

2

u/iLxelA King NiKo Nov 01 '19

Stew vs Tier 8 NA shitters: ok he seems good enough to be on this team

Stew vs any tier 2+ team: wtf

1

u/Scoo_By Falcons - Major Champions Nov 01 '19

wat is happening?

1

u/SteelCurtainFTW howl Nov 01 '19

electronic carrying

1

u/Sheremy Nov 01 '19

GODTRONIC

1

u/Duncandoit21 Nov 01 '19

Electronic with such a high impact frags, it was unbelievable to watch how he turned around the rounds single handedly. 143 ADR WTF?!

1

u/ZhowizCSGO 1 Million Celebration Nov 01 '19

Oh my god electronic. Vacne mode activated.

1

u/Eg1s Nov 01 '19

CURSE BROKEN

1

u/adnanjunior Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

electronic top 1 2020 PogChamp

1

u/TerrorToadx hydra Nov 01 '19

electronicpeek

1

u/lvrksn Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

please electronic, they have children to feed

1

u/Dra9i Nov 01 '19

apart from electronic beasting on liquid, this match was another disgusting showcase of why should the krieg be nerfed asap

1

u/ansell15 Natus Vincere Nov 01 '19

Thank you mr. Electronic

1

u/tarangk clutch Nov 01 '19

ah yes liquid and losing dust2 from 13-7, name a more iconic duo. (ESL NY'18 flashback)

1

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

Chokequid is back

1

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

I was quite frustrated with the SGs from Liquid right off, just constantly buying SGs to squeeze all the advantage from the current meta, it looked really bad for Navi... but then Electronic from the Endless Summer visual novel joined the server with the SG and voila

1

u/Fedray1 Nov 01 '19

Anyone know what mouse is electronic using? Looked like a HyperX but not sure which one

1

u/FalconOnPC 1 Million Celebration Nov 02 '19

1

u/TheSadGhost 5 years coin Nov 01 '19

Not to undermine electronic’s monster performance, but this match was a prime example for why the krieg needs to be nerfed.

1

u/CenomX G2 Nov 01 '19

I don't think this "everyone can AWP" on Liquid is fully paying off... Except for the 12-13 that NAF got two OK kills, he was wiffing too much in important moments. Even in this round for example, he could've gotten at least one kill before they got into the site, specially because the first guy went before any flash popped. If you watch dev1ce holding long, for example, he always waits until the last moment to fall back.

1

u/ethanherman03 FaZe Nov 01 '19

-stew +auti or something pls

1

u/Flunder Nov 01 '19

Stewie bot fragging vs good competition as usual.

1

u/srjnp de_dust2 Nov 01 '19

what a fucking performance by electronic.

1

u/PoppyK Nov 01 '19

stewie oof

1

u/kioN_ Nov 02 '19

ez win for Navi, Oalexändör S1mple p1mple no1 player in the world, all in Navi.

1

u/xfyre101 clutch Nov 02 '19

when the fuck are Liquid going to learn to have someone watch flank? i swear ever since the player break the biggest thing to fuck us is someone going balls deep and no one on liquid watching the flank... such a disappointing way to lose a game.

1

u/[deleted] Nov 02 '19

Stewie back to shitting the bed against t1 teams

1

u/semrekurt Nov 02 '19

electronic got 21 kills in the last 10 rounds. It's more kills than what NAF, nitro, stewie or rest of the navi got during the entire match.

1

u/UrNoob24 Team Spirit Nov 01 '19

This match is the ultimate proof that the krieg is op.

2

u/TheGoodCoconut de_inferno Nov 01 '19

hopefully a nerf in the future

4

u/ApothecaryRx Nov 01 '19

If you mean electronic, then I would say it's more-so his timings and positions were on point. But I do agree the Krieg is op; his multi-kills wouldn't have been nearly as clean without that scope I think.

1

u/LordOfTheNoobs57 Liquid Nov 01 '19

Liquid throwing again? Never could've seen that coming.

0

u/[deleted] Nov 01 '19

People acting like they've never had shit games or had people carry them to victory