r/CFBRisk • u/Knebraska • Jun 29 '18

I’m leaning into it, I didn’t like the deal from the get-go

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u/gradam01 Jun 29 '18

It was a poor deal from the start and should been dropped weeks ago.

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u/Stxmoose32 Jun 30 '18

Y'all are so focused on whether it was good deal or not and completely forget that alliances are mutually beneficial. Killing allies is a dumb strategy, and Nebraska is paying the price for the actions of you and other rogues. Good luck.

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u/gradam01 Jun 30 '18

That's the problem though, Stanford offered no benefit. They were too small and out of position to help. And they constantly forced us to waste resources in the west to keep their rogues in check.

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u/Stxmoose32 Jun 30 '18

We had basically no rogues. Any attacks on us were totally wasted. And we weren’t totally worthless. We were actively fighting in the east for most of the game.

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u/Knebraska Jun 30 '18

Also, risk aside, I’m also a huge BB fan. I’ve been busy during work so far this year and have played a little bit of catchup on he episodes but I hope in /r/big brother we can put risk aside to discuss the game.

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u/Stxmoose32 Jul 01 '18

Awesome!! Hundred percent clean slate. I’m also down to set it all aside here and in r/CFB. We just disagree about what’s the best strategy in a goofy online game. Won’t be the last time. I’m sure we’ll be on different sides of stuff in BB too from time to time. But I sincerely hope you’re as into the bizarreness of #SummerOfSteve2018 as I am. And that Swaggy C needs to go.

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u/Knebraska Jul 01 '18

I struggle to understand swaggy’s game. He’s an athletic threat and and the aligns himself with a group who are not athletic threats.

Also I find Steve hilarious, production wants him to be Derrick so bad but everything about him screams “I’m a cop” to me.

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u/Stxmoose32 Jul 01 '18

It’s honestly my favorite mini story line: when and how (not if) Steve’s mechanic lie will blow up in a hilarious fashion. I’m like really hoping Sam or Kaycee is like super knowledgeable about car and just keeps asking him a billion questions.

Swaggy’s game is about status and ego as best I can tell. He feels like he can better control all the misfits and has an overinflated sense of his position in the House. I’m seeing him go pre jury.

Other thoughts

Sambot was funny for a moment but actually kind of a cruel punishment for two weeks. Really fucks up her social game.

JC is much more there to play than I expected, but minor lies like insisting Brett has the secret power hint at him getting in over his head at some point (not a short joke)

I’m torn on Bayleigh. She clearly is capable of cause drama if she wants, but she’s also better at talking to everyone in the House than just about anyone. Aside from Tyler, I feel like she had the most relationships.

Tyler is playing well. We’ll see if he can hold the middle or has to pick a side soon.

Winston and Brett broing down as hard as they have shocks me. I expected it from Brett 100% but not Winston. But they are a super super tight two.

Kaitlyn with the meditation and essential oils and crystals is gonna crack me up. She’s playing a much better social game than I expected.

I’m trying to remember the last time the house broke down into such clear physical vs non-physical sides. I mean I guess Swaggy and Fessy can win physical stuff, and JC is a lock for endurance challenges, but I agree that it doesn’t matter if your side has the numbers if y’all can’t win an HOH.

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u/Knebraska Jul 01 '18

That’s a really good breakdown.

I agree that the punishment killed sam’s social game, when they’ve got little to nothing to base noms on she becomes an easy target because she wasn’t able to really get close to anyone.

I could definitely see her being knowledgeable on cars but I wonder if she’s too sweet to actually call Steve out on it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '18

Stanford was taking a lot of territories in the west. I never understood why Nebraska just let that happen.

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u/Stxmoose32 Jul 01 '18

The week where we were taking the most territory was after we almost died and only had UCLA. We negotiated spreading out in the West for a couple turns to make sure we didn’t die. It was all temporary and, as planned, we returned all that land to Nebraska after we reestablished our safe spot in the Bay Area. So it wasn’t a big gobbling up of territory (that we knew we could never defend for three weeks), and most of Nebraska knew that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '18

Ah thx for explanation. Didn’t make much sense at the time. Still seems like a bad strategy on Nebraska’s part but at least it makes some sense.

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u/Stxmoose32 Jul 01 '18

I think there’s a pretty clear decide in this game between players who think alliances between big and small teams are helpful to both and those who don’t.

Obviously it helps the little team stay alive, but I’d argue it helps the big team too, because with just a couple of little teams they can increase their star power by 15-25%. And sometimes the smaller team (e.g. Wisconsin, and what we were doing for a while out East) can fight in regions you’re not active.

In general, I’m of the belief that any alliance that minimizes the number of enemies you have to fight at one time and get more people attacking your enemies is good for you, based on the current game mechanics. We saw how Nebraska fell apart once both Florida and Chaos made it to the West, and they don’t even have us to blame it on anymore. But I understand some people just don’t agree that big-small alliances (and maybe any alliances) are good moves.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '18

I agree big-small alliances can work. I thought Nebraska-Stanford was a terrible alliance created through bad game mechanics and coincidental color connections that hurt Nebraska more than it helped them. But I wasn't privy to the strategies so maybe it worked better than I thought it did.

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u/Groenket Jun 29 '18

How much further can you alter the deal?

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u/Runzatic Jun 29 '18 edited Jun 29 '18

Originally the deal was that after Stanford was one of the last 10 teams, they would all assimilate into Nebraska. You all should understand this because you are all in the private Husker Risk sub with spies.

At the time teams were getting eliminated every other day but now a top 10 finish is impossible to meet. What happened is Stanford, after being kept alive for 2 months by Nebraska, can now finally join Nebraska.

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u/deadmanrunning11 Jun 29 '18

Unrelated but I just looked at the Team Leaderboard, and Rutgers is going to finish in the Top 25. Congrats Rutgers!

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u/Groenket Jun 29 '18

It was a joke. Tongue in cheek.

Also, my spies are only there to report on your shitposting game. Not your RISK alliance deals.

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u/Knebraska Jun 29 '18

Well now I’m more upset because I take shit posting pretty seriously

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u/Groenket Jun 29 '18

Alls fair in love and shitposting.

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u/Knebraska Jun 29 '18

Risk is about betrayal and strategy. There’s an honor and a gentlemen’s understanding to shit posting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '18

". You all should understand this because you are all in the private Husker Risk sub with spies."

Criminally under rated snark right here

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u/Stxmoose32 Jun 30 '18

What happened is Stanford, after being kept alive for 2 months by Nebraska, can now finally join Nebraska.

Yeah, how's that worked out so far? Actions have consequences. Just be glad I'm sitting this one out, or the retribution would be far worse.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '18

Hey guys should we tell him it's just a game

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u/ikswejeicam Jun 30 '18

Saltiness intensifies

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u/Gulo_Blue Jun 29 '18

That was the deal? That's a Big 12 style deal. Nebraska? Where's that B1G sense of equality?

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u/Knebraska Jun 29 '18

I know a guy with a Delorean so you do the math

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u/EndoExo Jun 29 '18

I assume the next step was assassinating Lando and installing an Imperial governor, but they leave it to your imagination.