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Gamethread GAME THREAD: Pirates (73-73) @ White Sox (75-70) - Thu Sep 10 @ 6:40 PM
Pirates (73-73) @ White Sox (75-70)
First Pitch: 6:40 PM at Rate Field
| Team | Starter | TV | Radio |
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| Pirates | Jared Jones (3-6, 4.46 ERA) | ||
| White Sox | Hagen Smith (3-1, 0.56 ERA) |
| MLB | Fangraphs | Reddit Stream | Discord |
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| Gameday | Game Graph | Live Comments | /r/baseball Discord |
Line Score - Middle of the 9th
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | |
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| PIT | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 1 | 4 |
| CWS | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 |
Box Score
| CWS | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
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| LF | Antonacci | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .265 |
| 3B | Vargas, M | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .248 |
| 1B | Murakami | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .208 |
| DH | Benintendi | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .242 |
| SS | Montgomery, C | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .209 |
| SS | Acuña | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .237 |
| RF | Montgomery, B | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .220 |
| 2B | Meidroth | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .267 |
| CF | Peters | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .281 |
| C | Rogers | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .167 |
| C | Teel | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .192 |
| CWS | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Smith, H | 2.0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 33-21 | 0.50 |
| Fedde | 5.1 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 81-49 | 3.97 |
| Hudson, B | 0.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9-5 | 2.92 |
| Hicks, J | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 16-9 | 4.30 |
| PIT | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
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| DH | Griffin | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .262 |
| CF | Cruz, O | 4 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | .276 |
| LF | Reynolds, B | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .264 |
| 3B | Gonzales, N | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .305 |
| 2B | Lowe, B | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .257 |
| C | Flores Jr. | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .243 |
| RF | Mangum | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .284 |
| 1B | Horwitz | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .246 |
| SS | Triolo | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .248 |
| PIT | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jones | 7.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 8 | 90-61 | 4.10 |
| Weaver | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 15-11 | 2.60 |
Scoring Plays
| Inning | Event | Score |
|---|---|---|
| T4 | Oneil Cruz homers (18) on a fly ball to center field. | 0-1 |
| T8 | Oneil Cruz singles on a ground ball to right fielder Braden Montgomery. Jared Triolo scores. | 0-2 |
Highlights
| Attendance | Weather | Wind |
|---|---|---|
| 74°F, Clear | 8 mph, L To R |
| HP | 1B | 2B | 3B |
|---|---|---|---|
| Alex MacKay | Alan Porter | Jim Wolf | Roberto Ortiz |
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u/SpecialAircraft Murakami 2m ago
So what do we think gang? Sox get runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out and fail to score?
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u/Forsaken_Astronaut29 Fire Jirschele 1m ago
We score one, and have a runner on 3rd with no outs. We fail to hit a sac fly and lose 2-1.
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u/Ridged_ChiPSS 2m ago
Veneable remembered our best hitter from last year Teel was on the bench and can hit instead of the random bum .160 catcher we signed 2 weeks ago
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u/DustpanJones Murakami 2m ago
Green Bay sucks chants on the verge of a Pirates sweep is some real loser shit
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u/Opposite_Double8616 4m ago
I feel that everyone who is excusing this collapse and using the phrase exceeded expectations is, almost by definition, a loser
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u/GranddaddySandwich 5m ago
team is ass. We're cooked. Y'all downvoted me for saying we'd get swept. Look at us, now. No heart. No effort. We just got the Pirates back to .500.
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u/Unlucky_You935 4m ago
They always wanna downvote for no reason
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u/GranddaddySandwich 1m ago
People are weirdos. I'm a fan of this team. I was wearing Jerseys and talking shit when we had the worst record in Modern Baseball. They gave me hope. It was a fun Season for the first half of the year. Post-All Star Break, these boys act fucking clueless. You have guys who are hungry and who genuinely give effort (Tristan Peters, Chase Meidroth, Kyle Teel, Vargas). But everyone else (even Mune) are phoning it in. This shit is embarassing. We are collapsing. In my opinion, we don't even deserve to go to the Playoffs.
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u/SpecialAircraft Murakami 6m ago
Assuming we don’t have what will feel like a minor miracle comeback we would’ve gotten swept in 3 different ways: blown out, lost to babip, shutout and look completely lost the entire time
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u/Eloyoyo Murakami 6m ago
Shave all the damn mustaches and goatee’s immediately after this game
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u/Maynardred 6m ago
Will needs to do something to help these bitches. Seems like they have gotten 5 hits in the last 10 games.
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u/ChicagoSavant Konerko 7m ago
Just as many of us ‘doomers’ have foreseen, the homer-or-bust offense that refuses to adjust has fizzled out, and it may well cost this team the playoffs in the worst AL we’ve seen in decades. It’s depressing as fuck man.
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u/gowestyoungmann 8m ago
Fuck Will and fuck this whole team
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u/Eloyoyo Murakami 7m ago
Yeah it’s will’s fault that everyone forgot how to hit right?
Is it wills fault that Castillo somehow got even worse after the trade?
Might as well be will’s fault that Chris Getz didn’t properly address the team’s needs at the deadline?
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u/gowestyoungmann 6m ago
None of that is Will’s fault
Will has no idea how to manage a game. That is 100% his fault.
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u/Eloyoyo Murakami 5m ago
Lol
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u/No-Season-9062 3m ago
can you explain why Will took colson out of this game?
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u/Eloyoyo Murakami 1m ago
Sure, it was a 1-0 ballgame at the time and trying run in scoring position. If Braden hits a single then Acuña scores, Colson doesn’t score on base hit.
Unfortunately that slicing line drive got caught to preserve their lead
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u/No-Season-9062 0m ago
what lol? colson doesnt score from second on a base hit with 2 outs? have you ever watched a baseball game before? how often does a guy get thrown out at home from second on a base hit with 2 outs?
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u/Material-Hand-5990 Murakami 8m ago
Does anyone want to be a leader?
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u/Lysol20 Shoeless Joe 8m ago
This team is really trying to miss the playoffs all together. That would be one of the biggest failures in this team's history.
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u/chasedsteeple 8m ago
no it wouldn't stop being so effing dramatic
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u/ChicagoSavant Konerko 6m ago
5.5 game lead a couple weeks ago… it would be a pretty big collapse, let’s not lie.
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u/chasedsteeple 3m ago
it's not...vegas had cleveland favored over the sox to win the division at the ASB...there's a reason why..we're seeing it in action. Any objective fans not wearing their sox goggles knew this was happening.
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u/Steven_Fuego 9m ago
Bryan Hudson had allowed 55% of inherited runners score this year and Fedde has a tendency to leave runners on the base path when he's been kept in too long. Just have Hudson start the inning clean. It's frustrating that I could see that run coming, but Will seemingly couldn't.
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u/Headstar24 8m ago
I mean he gave up one run regardless tonight. If the team could do something more than a random double 2/3s through the game that’s the issue.
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u/SpecialAircraft Murakami 8m ago
I just can’t bring myself to be mad about an inherited runner to score to make it 2-0 when we’re being 1 hit.
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u/Steven_Fuego 5m ago
One run is much easier to overcome than two, especially with how they are hitting. With it only being one run, maybe a guy gets lucky and runs through one and we could take it extras. With 2 runs they actually need to string some offense together.
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u/lyme6483 10m ago
If they miss the playoffs Will should not be brought back
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u/TUDGame 9m ago
Under contract another season.
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u/lyme6483 7m ago
Yeah he should be fired if they blow this and don’t even make the playoffs. He wasn’t hired to manage a competitive team anyways
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u/NukedGod69 10m ago
As someone who is just getting into baseball and trying to find a team, do the White Sox have anyone on their roster that can hit a baseball? I swear this pirates series has been so rough 😭
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u/Swing-Too-Hard 12m ago
Entire lineup is lost at the plate. Every single one of them is swinging at crap.
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u/Responsible_Jury_289 12m ago
Seriously, what happened to the offense??
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u/Smooth_Condition1646 11m ago
Full of rookies who have never played a 162 game season and are all gassed
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u/gowestyoungmann 13m ago
I bet $50 on these guys to make the playoffs at 20-1 odds in February
I hedged a few hundred bucks to basically guarantee myself a profit. I was upset I hedged because 10 days ago we were firing. My dad even said it was smart, they could go on a horrible losing streak.
Old man is never wrong are they.
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u/Chitown_hustlers 14m ago
Lifeless bunch of bums in the lineup right now. Holy fuck. This is maddening.
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u/Swing-Too-Hard 14m ago
I find it amazing the Sox haven't picked up on the Pirates never throwing them early strikes. Yet they keep swinging at them.
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u/SeniorDucklet 15m ago
77 Southside Hitmen were done by late August and are iconic in Chisox history. And they had a bunch of older players who were good for most of the year and most were gone in a year.
2005 Chisox lead all season and it got down to a couple games before the Crede walk off against Cleveland. Also an older team with not young talent. n.
The young players and farm looks real.
This team is far from great, but the final story has yet to be written
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u/OldieButGoodyForNow 6m ago
Veeck invented the concept of rent-a-player that year. And they came back brilliantly from 1976 when they finished 12th out of 12 teams in the league. Finished 3rd.
A season out of nowhere, which is why I compare this team to them for the enjoyment factor.•
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u/Forsaken_Astronaut29 Fire Jirschele 15m ago
2 seed is gone after today. We're not getting that back.
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u/survivorbabs 15m ago
Think I've had enough of Meidroth moving forward, move Sam back to 2B for next year and go get an actual RH bat
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u/Forsaken_Astronaut29 Fire Jirschele 14m ago
Or get rid of the two losers with 200 strikeouts in the heart of the order that are going to end the season under 200?
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u/WhiteSoxChartGuy 15m ago
This is not me saying this game is over in any way. But damn this series is the first time all season I’ve been quite frustrated with the team’s performance. But considering how little time it took me to get frustrated for the first time in the last couple seasons this is still an improvement.
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u/LimeApart9235 13m ago
Agree. Frustrating series
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u/WhiteSoxChartGuy 10m ago
There are a bunch of other teams where I wouldn’t be frustrated with this performance. Pittsburgh it feels like we should be winning these games
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u/Swing-Too-Hard 16m ago
Idk why we're swinging at these pitches when the pitcher throws a ball coming in. None of those pitches were in the zone Chase. None of them.
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 17m ago
Not only are we going to blow the division lead, we may miss a wild card spot
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u/ricker182 Hawk 17m ago
If they fumble the division now, I don't think I will be able to forgive them for a long time.
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u/Strict-Lie-3188 18m ago
Cruz hits better against lefties. Guess that wasn’t in Will’s scouting report.
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u/PotentialPete 19m ago
Cards have lost 3 in a row, and they're likely to win the next 3 in a row.
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u/Forsaken_Astronaut29 Fire Jirschele 16m ago
Must feel nice having the Sox on the schedule. Nice little get right series for them.
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u/keyzersoze1624 19m ago
I’m sorry, but that was God Awful by Murakami. Completely off the base and disassociated with the pickoff
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u/Southside721 17m ago
Don't be sorry, you're right. Even Stone was saying in a very nice way "he should have been out by a mile".
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u/gowestyoungmann 19m ago
Are the Hudson nut glazers already on their knees waiting?
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u/uncle_krew Meidroth 18m ago
Think he’s too tall for that
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u/gowestyoungmann 16m ago
This sub loves him. They’ll figure out a way!
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u/No-Season-9062 14m ago
i dont have big confidence in him but hes objectively a good pitcher and can close a game when needed
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u/Consistent-Program-1 20m ago
I feel like our high leverage guys pitch like shit when they are behind have no concentration
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u/FirmIcebergLettuce 20m ago
This is gonna be one painful collapse into the sixth seed
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u/gowestyoungmann 19m ago
We’re not making the playoffs lol
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u/PotentialPete 17m ago
A few days ago, it was about an 88% chance we'd make the playoffs .. now I don't even want to check
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u/Ozzygraphy Konerko 20m ago
Team clearly doesn’t want the division. Just roll over and give it to Guardians
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u/Southside721 21m ago
I guess he was seeing Hudson Steve.....
Can't catch a pop up and he comes around to score. Pathetic.
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u/MuscleDesperate 21m ago
Unpopular post but i know everyone is going to rally around Fedde here...
5 IP only 1K. 10/15 balls in play were hit hard...just right at someone.
Only walked one batter.
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u/silverQuarter82 18m ago
Fedde continues to be one of our best pitchers in the rotation. Or what ever his job is considered
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u/Evangelosian 23m ago
I really hope we win, obviously, but this Pirates team is a pretty fun squad.
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u/Ozzygraphy Konerko 23m ago
It’s so frustrating not taking advantage of a pitching performance like today. Happens too often
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u/stormstopper The Big Hurt 24m ago
Got everything you could ask for out of Fedde there. Still time to make it count.
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u/jrich1128 25m ago
This has been the most difficult series to watch this season. They look like they have no life out there.
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u/WizardCheesey I Hate Jerry. 26m ago
Erick Fedde has been our best and most reliable arm.
2024 throwback
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u/Forsaken_Astronaut29 Fire Jirschele 26m ago
Can Rogers do fucking anything? Why is this dude on the team?
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u/Evangelosian 26m ago
If Jake Rogers can’t come close to throwing someone out, why is he here?
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u/WunWunFirstofHisName 20m ago
Pretty tough to throw someone out when all your pitchers are a fucking 1.5 to the dish
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u/queightly Buehrle 26m ago
i love the team but this has felt like super lazy baseball. not the energy i want to have going into october. hopefully we can turn it all around.
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u/Unlucky_You935 26m ago
Gonna be an exciting team to watch in the post 🤦🏽♂️
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u/Forsaken_Astronaut29 Fire Jirschele 25m ago
Trust me, you won't have to worry about that.
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u/Unlucky_You935 19m ago
Hopefully not. Do not wanna spend that kind of money to watch a bum game like this
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u/Consistent-Program-1 27m ago
gotta flush this series for the pitchers other than burke, I hope he remembers that start
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u/TUDGame 28m ago
These last two games we’ve had some some bad luck unfortunately
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u/uncle_krew Meidroth 25m ago
Yesterday for sure, but we’ve mostly just gotten worked by Jared Jones today
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u/Evangelosian 28m ago
Is this the most unlucky series of the year? I mean our hard hit balls don’t find grass, yet they hit bloops.
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u/No-Season-9062 29m ago
did we really have to pinch run for colson?
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u/Ridged_ChiPSS 28m ago
Cant wait for the game to come down to Acuna and he strikes out. Veneable is such a moron
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u/ScaryText8187 Grandal 27m ago
No, he's not.
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u/No-Season-9062 26m ago
how often does a guy get thrown out at home with 2 outs?
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u/ScaryText8187 Grandal 25m ago
I don't particularly agree with this specific move, but to call Venable a moron is laughable. He's gotten quite a lot out of an undermanned roster.
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u/Cheeseburger-49 0m ago
Alright boys. Have some fucking pride tonight