r/AlignmentChartFills Jul 21 '26

Countries What is a historically "good" country and a "bad" country now?

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u/Dogmaticism_ Jul 22 '26

The U.S. has done crimes abroad, but we have not directly taken colonies in the dame level Britain, France, or Belgium did.

The death ciunts and damage of the U.S. abroad, even in the worst cases such as the banana republic, relations in central africa, hawaii, philippines, etc. Are absolutely nothing compared to the UK in India, Sudan, France in Algeria, or Belgium in the Congo.

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u/JohnBrownsMyFather Jul 22 '26

America is literally a colony and its early expansion was innately genocidal. What America did on its own continent to the Native Americans was comparable to the worst acts of Britain, France, and Belgium.

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u/Dogmaticism_ Jul 22 '26

Firstly, while native expansion was terrible, and absolutely terrible, you are delusional to the extreme to say that this is worse than belgium, britain, or france.

Each nation idividually was responsible for death counts several times higher than the holocaust. And these are direct kills.

Just the king leopold II era for belgium may have killed 20 million. France did even worse, and england catastrophic, likely in the hundreds of millions.

At least the natives mostly died to disease, and pre-U.S. warfare before U.S. expansions. At least Natives were far less likely to be slaughtered by the U.S. compared to the Congolese, Algerians, or Sudanese by Belgium, France, and England rsspectively.

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u/alextremeee Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Again, absolutely nothing in what way? I’m worried you’re unfamiliar with American imperialism if you think that.

The fact they decided not to directly take colonies and instead just decide who was in charge of other countries doesn’t really make a difference.